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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

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There are no jobs, getting a loan is almost impossible if you don’t have a reliable source of income or any property to mortgage, many are dropout, many are graduates with out job, many did not even smell the coners of school, many cannot afford medical bills , many are starving and everybody wants to survive. So i wouldn’t say they are looking for quick money instead I would say they are all trying to survive.

this is total bulshit.

What index are you using fo make these assertion. Last time i checked, most of the things you just pointed out isnt just a nigerian related issue. As much as Nigeria has their own share of the issue, this is a global issue and I don't like the fact that you are making it seems as though Nigerian are the only ones involved in fraudulent activity.

Corruption and unemployment is everywhere so let's not make that of Nigeria look as though it's the worse.

Out population is much and economy isn't all that strong to carter for some of or people but an average Nigerian is an hard working person that can survive in the midst of a hard and tough economy. I know that some of them are bad but their are so many good and exceptional Nigerian out their that are doing great and exceptional things for themselves and I hate it when a shallow minded persons brings up a matter as delicate as this to the public just to tarnish the reputation of a giant nation as Nigeria.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

These are what affect many people in the world today; they believe in what they hear, not what they see. Now that you heard that Nigeria has many scammers, why can't you ask the person who told you that? He or she should have explained it in a way that you will understand, not until you bring it up here and again. Because I don't think Nigeria is, these are really what you are supposed to keep in mind because you did not see them. However, thousands of your youths in Nigeria are out there hustling just to meet their daily needs with family and friends. So I'm surprised that you said that Nigeria has many scammers; not everyone is into fraud. understand is not only fraid that guves the youth money online, we have many youths in that into cryptocurrency trading, we also have soem here in these forums participating in signature campaigns, so what are you going to see them as scammers?

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The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

says by who? or you have seen any poor person die due to these hardships in the country. Let me tell you, everybody is struggling to meet up at this moment in Nigeria. Although I know that the economy is even worse, that doesn't mean only the wealthy people survive. All of us are surviving, and with time everything will be better.

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Scams exist in all countries not just Nigeria. It is difficult to say which country has more scams. The number of scams is high online but if you get any information about them no one can easily understand where they scammed from all their information is secret. Scammers use that opportunity when there are more opportunities in any field there is also a tendency to commit crimes so always try to be as careful as possible.

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You can't tell where scammers are from because most of scammers we meet online try to disguise themselves to be who they are not. Most scammers are anonymous with how they do their things. You can't tell who are scammer is, their are scammers every where and it is wrong to point hand that a particular region has the highest number of scammers. I meet scammers on social media and and exchange always and I can't tell where those scammers are coming from.

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Well the statement can be ananimous, it may be unverifiable fact, but the nature of the economy can leads to that if an only if is true. But one thing I can say in this post is that crime is everywhere many hide their own even in the western world their bad news is hardly revail to the public space, is very wrong to begin to speak and State Nigeria is the highest, I don't deny crime exist here neither do I defend because I am partake but to correct such impression if there is no research made to verify this is totally wrong is way of tarnishing the nation image by who speculated such.

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Fair enough you're partially accurate but with a wrong mindset, you made a mistake with your topic firstly "are most scammers from Nigeria" how sure are you with this statement or you just decide to speak, what do you mean by scammers and the last time I checked about countries with the highest rate of scammers I didn't only see Nigeria listed but other countries were listed too so if talking about scammers Nigeria should not be the only country listed. I wished you listed some steps to follow with the current economy situation, I'm not against your post but things like this should be done with caution and if possible enlighten the public with your points.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

I am not trying to justify anything or anyone but when look deep in to insight, if Nigeria has the most scammer then the first thing to be looked at is the economy. Nigeria as a country has silently pasted “ your survival is your business” as their motto, no one really cares not even the government.

Are you implying that there are more con scammers in Nigeria than in other nations? Honestly, I don't think so. I can state that scammers abound in every nation, but their one common trait is that their wisdom exceeds one another's. I can demonstrate that Nigeria is a wiser nation than others. But I find it hard to accept that a large number of con scammers come from Nigeria.

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If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

To demonstrate that if you are not wealthy, you can establish a business, I see it as a joke, how can you say that a person must be wealthy before starting a business? Or have you forgotten that everything in life is a gradual process? Some people are quite destitute, while others begin their business with a modest amount of capital and have grown to become wealthy, with no single factor contributing to their success. So, in terms of corrections, every one can start a business both rich or poor may start their own business.

Yeah actually, there is now an employment shortage in Nigeria. Many people graduate each day, yet there are no jobs for them. The work now is solely about connecting, and even if you have connections but you don't have money, you will stay. only wealthy youngsters are able to obtain employment with ease.

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Quote from: yazher on February 19, 2024, 09:51:47 AM

I don't think Nigeria has the most scammers in their country because they don't have enough resources to scam other people and it shows that they do not even have anything to prove that and you can just simply look at the state of their country right now, those people don't even have anything at all. and most of their people are not even aware of it because they think they are living like any others in the world while in reality they are left behind. the true scammers are those who took their resources in their land and teamed up with their appointed leaders and that is a fact since it is not even a secret anymore because most people in the world know it.

You will not agree with you on the point that you rated Nigerians to be poor, I am a Nigerian and live in Nigeria and I can categorically say that you are wrong, Nigerians most especially the youths are currently doing very well in all aspect if modern day life and we are involved in most of the modern technology and also other aspect of life.

So for sure I won't agree with you because alot of the Nigerians youths are doing well in the music industry and even in tech and other vasitile lifestyle, so agreed that the political leaders are highly corrupt leaders that have stolen the common wealth of the Nigeria, but that doesn't limit most of the Nigerian youths to pursue modern living with investment into the career and picking up new challenges.

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I don't think Nigeria has the most scammers in their country because they don't have enough resources to scam other people and it shows that they do not even have anything to prove that and you can just simply look at the state of their country right now, those people don't even have anything at all. and most of their people are not even aware of it because they think they are living like any others in the world while in reality they are left behind. the true scammers are those who took their resources in their land and teamed up with their appointed leaders and that is a fact since it is not even a secret anymore because most people in the world know it.

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Quote from: Kelward on February 18, 2024, 04:03:29 AM

Quote from: Hispo on February 16, 2024, 06:08:46 AM

Such affirmations only hurt the sense and perception people can have on Nigeria, which I am sure is a lovely country, despise of all the problems it could be going through.

I'm a Nigerian, born and brought up in the country and I can tell you that we have far more sincere people who have integrity and work hard legitimately to earn their incomes, so it's very unfair to categorize a country of more than two hundred million citizens as scammers, when the number of scammers are perhaps just two percent of the total population. It's true that we have corrupt politicians and we have criminals in the country, but these issues are not perculiar to Nigeria, I believe that there are scammers even in developed countries like the US and Europe, and not just in Africa and Asia. So my point again is that if just a very insignificant proportion of the population are scammers, it'll be unjust to categorize Nigerians as scammers, being criminal minded is a choice that people make anywhere in the world.

I believe it is nothing personal when comes to people who would dare to say most scammers are from Nigeria, you know. It is probably a stereotype which was created by the famous Nigerian prince email scam. I am sure you probably heard about it.
One suddenly receiving an email about an alledged Nigerian Price who has millions of dollars blocked by their bank and needs some contribution of some stranger of the internet in other to enable the access to his account. It is a pretty old scam method, whose origin can be traced back to the Spanish Treasure Ship scam.

I don't doubt there is working and humble people in Nigeria, I have seen interviews and documentary films about Nigeria's film industry. It is impressive how much creativity can be reached with such a low budget, compared to Hollywood.

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Scammers originate from all countries, I don’t think it’s fair to try & say most scammers are from Nigeria. Sure there will be scammers from Nigeria but the same can be said about most countries. Just be aware, don’t be naive & give up your personal information online. If something seems too good to be true it almost certainly is.

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Op, I believe you are also a Nigerian since you Identify with the Nigerian local board. Back to the conclusion you have drawn because it doesn't look like you asked a question here, this is what I have to answer you, Scammers are everywhere around the world the only reason you see most people bringing up cases of scam in Nigeria is because the news of the number of scams that are done by some Nigerian people are no longer hidden. There's no part of the world where you can't get scammers so most scammers are not Nigerians. The real scammers are politicians and their political parties who have subjected her citizens to hardship and hunger making the common people to become beggars where they are supposed to have a better life.

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

I am not trying to justify anything or anyone but when look deep in to insight, if Nigeria has the most scammer then the first thing to be looked at is the economy. Nigeria as a country has silently pasted “ your survival is your business” as their motto, no one really cares not even the government.

If you are not rich you cannot start a new business, if you don’t have the best connection you cannot get a good job in a big company. If you are not rich you cannot go the a good average school, if you are not rich you cannot study the course of you choice.. you most go for the best affordable course, if you are not rich you cannot dress properly, if you are not rich you cannot eat properly even chicken is no longer a regular man food cause it is expensive, if you are not rich you cannot think of owning a car or even renting one plus public bus is a topic for another day.

The reality of Nigeria is only the rich can survive.

In a country like this how and why won’t there be scammers even the government are frauds too they are only focused of getting all the money they can to preserve it for their generations. The hardship here is different.

There are no jobs, getting a loan is almost impossible if you don’t have a reliable source of income or any property to mortgage, many are dropout, many are graduates with out job, many did not even smell the coners of school, many cannot afford medical bills , many are starving and everybody wants to survive. So i wouldn’t say they are looking for quick money instead I would say they are all trying to survive.

I wonder what those that like blackmailing our youth and some other sector of our society benefits from it, I know of a truth our leaders has failed in their respective aspects of leadership but crime is general things all over the world, I don't know where you got your statistics or survey to know that Nigeria is the highest scammer, Cyber crime and all sort of crime is all over the world, I may not blame the newbies but just that our people do say that when a purpose of a thing is not know abuse is inevitable. You don't need to criticize your nation, tell the world your problem and what you hard or any body to succeed in this forum all you need is knowledge smartness, understanding, avoiding quick get rich, and emotional investment or trading. As a concerned citizen tabling your nation condemned you more as every nation see you as fraud even when your innocent.

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Quote from: Hispo on February 16, 2024, 06:08:46 AM

Such affirmations only hurt the sense and perception people can have on Nigeria, which I am sure is a lovely country, despise of all the problems it could be going through.

I'm a Nigerian, born and brought up in the country and I can tell you that we have far more sincere people who have integrity and work hard legitimately to earn their incomes, so it's very unfair to categorize a country of more than two hundred million citizens as scammers, when the number of scammers are perhaps just two percent of the total population. It's true that we have corrupt politicians and we have criminals in the country, but these issues are not perculiar to Nigeria, I believe that there are scammers even in developed countries like the US and Europe, and not just in Africa and Asia. So my point again is that if just a very insignificant proportion of the population are scammers, it'll be unjust to categorize Nigerians as scammers, being criminal minded is a choice that people make anywhere in the world.

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Makes sense. In Nigeria, a lot of folks struggle due to a tough economic scene like jon are scarce, education is often a luxury and even basic things like proper food can be hard to afford. In this kind of environment, some people turn to scams not because they're looking for quick money but because they're trying to survive. Im not saying that what theyre doing is justifiable but addressing these problems could make a real difference in reducing the need for scams as a way of making ends meet

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Quote from: Outside Baby on February 15, 2024, 02:13:04 PM

So, I have heard many scammers are from Nigeria.

You can find plenty in India, thus the term "indian scammer" used to refer to these famous call centers where a bunch of Indians claim to be from support of Microsoft or Google.
Let's not generalize that scammers only come from one country or there's a lot of them in one place but not another. In Germany and UK there's a lot of scammers from Russia and Ukraine. Basically if you get called by someone telling you that your bank account is in danger or they sent you a bunch of money by mistake, they're going to be talking with an Eastern European accent.
The rule of thumb is that usually people from poor regions of the same continent will migrate to rich regions and a lot of them will want to cheat the system by committing crimes, which is why Russians and Ukrainians used to run mobs in Western Europe and eventually branch out to the US.

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Scammers exist everywhere. We cannot single out any single group as scammers. And the people of another country are extremely poor and they are desperate for money to reduce their poverty, so are they scammers? We know that the financial condition of the people of Nigeria is very bad. And we also know that countries with poor financial conditions also have high levels of corruption, anarchy and crime.

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Nigeria has it own peculiar problem and challenges but not that it ends with Nigeria alone. In fact some of the things you mentioned are found in most third world countries and that is because of bad leadership. The government is the culprit of this problem because they have bastardised the system and every government enters the system from rigged electoral system.

I think the solution is that the people should hold the government to have a transparent and unambiguous constitution for the people where the sections doesn't give room for lawyers and politicians to take advantage of. Like the Nigerian constitution is very much an ambiguous document, giving room for different sections and subsections to speak or interpreted in different ways.

However, some countries have gone through this and have been able to reorganize themselves like Ghana. Moreso, in Europe and America they have had there own fair share of bad government until they fortified their institutions and laws.

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Quote from: JeromeTash on February 15, 2024, 05:50:09 PM

You stated it right. It looks like the Government over there fucked up it's citizens and therefore there are high unemployment rates. If I am right, Nigeria is the highest populated country in Africa. If you add that to the fact that Government does not care about its Citizens, what you get is youth who have given up on looking for employment and instead resorting to scamming and stealing.
We can see similar cases in countries like India and I think Bangladesh.

In response to your post, I have two things to say;

You are correct about the government an economy of Nigeria. The country is a blessed country with mineral resources but due to gross mismanagement, those resources are not used to take care of the country and her citizens. This has made some Nigerians venture into illegal means to earn a living but not more than some other countries
I am a Nigerian but I have witnessed more than twice where other country men will commit a crime and claim they are Nigerians in order to preserve their country name. Yes, I am honest about this. They claim to belong where is already trending for crime

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It is quite ridiculous to generalize a group of scammers. Scammers are everywhere they are even in places you would not expect them to be. Scammers have resorted to smart tactics in order to easily gain the trust of their victims. Nowadays, scammers have no problem exerting so much time and effort just to scam someone in the end.

Scammers are product of the incompetency of a government but almost all countries have scammers even first world countries. Countries with highly developed technology might even produce more and better scammers. Remember that scammers also need some resources to play out their scams.

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