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Topic: ARE NEWBIES CONSIDERED AS FOOLS? - page 4. (Read 15315 times)

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August 26, 2016, 12:02:47 AM
I think not. There are also smart newbies.

What means smart newbies? In my opinion smart newbies just read and learn. This all thread is against "Newbies" that playing with experienced users just to troll, cheat, or just do pist offsomeone.
legendary
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August 25, 2016, 03:40:40 PM
No one consider newbies as fools, just newbies behaviors are considered a little strange and not really following the forum rules sometimes, so we are here to guide and advice them.

How about someone that has great trust but act like a fool for example : scammer name Maidak
It's really difficult to notice that someday these newbie will able to be like him  Sad
They are more than likely not their own account and either obtained from a hack or purchased.
Those that trust these kind of users should be warned that they are not whom they appear to be and to not deal with them in the future.
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August 25, 2016, 03:17:50 PM
I think not. There are also smart newbies.
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August 25, 2016, 03:09:17 PM
I never considered newbie foolish, as indeed they really newbie and do not know about anything, so it is natural. but the thing I hate is the newbie usually lazy to read.
the same for me, everyone needs to learn at first and i was a newbie once so its not too big of a trouble
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August 25, 2016, 10:24:31 AM
We also become a newbie, we all came from being a newbie. So I would the newbie be treated as worthless. They are smart. For they got the courage to be part of our community. They are good enough that they want to learn that's why they are in this community

True,

But circle always complete.

As if higher reputation member were also newbie at first time same as newbie can also become higher reputed member by contributing to form.

And I believe no is perfect as newbie can also be smart more than any hero or legendary member but have to prove it by supporting this amazing forum where you can get all your needs at one place.
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August 25, 2016, 07:00:23 AM
We also become a newbie, we all came from being a newbie. So I would the newbie be treated as worthless. They are smart. For they got the courage to be part of our community. They are good enough that they want to learn that's why they are in this community
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August 25, 2016, 06:55:28 AM
They just say that about newbies because most scams are done by lazy scammers whomuse new account and freshly created for that certain use .
legendary
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August 25, 2016, 06:43:50 AM
For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

Some newbies are genuine and want to learn.
But there are a lot of newbie accounts especially made for farming or scamming. And that's where the problems start imho: a lot of spam (to increase the rank faster) threads and posts, a lot of threads with FUD made as first post of an account (I mean, come on...!) a lot of newbie accounts asking for loans, scams supported "vouched" by newbies and so on.

Remember that "great" (fake) 1000BTC "giveaway"? I can only imagine how many new accounts were made only for posting once into that one thread.


I agree not all newbies are fools there are some which is serious on learning  on things but some just created on scam purpose or those farmed account same as you said. They considered as fool because of their traits on the forum thats why other newbies are being affected especially to those  who are really serious.
legendary
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August 25, 2016, 06:09:33 AM
For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

Some newbies are genuine and want to learn.
But there are a lot of newbie accounts especially made for farming or scamming. And that's where the problems start imho: a lot of spam (to increase the rank faster) threads and posts, a lot of threads with FUD made as first post of an account (I mean, come on...!) a lot of newbie accounts asking for loans, scams supported "vouched" by newbies and so on.

Remember that "great" (fake) 1000BTC "giveaway"? I can only imagine how many new accounts were made only for posting once into that one thread.
legendary
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August 25, 2016, 06:06:16 AM
I never considered newbie foolish, as indeed they really newbie and do not know about anything, so it is natural. but the thing I hate is the newbie usually lazy to read.
We can only judge a newbie by his behaviour and not by its rank in this forum. If the newbie is obviously lazy and knows nothing, then he will be considered as a fool by most people. Otherwise, they'll leave the "newbie" rank alone and respect that user. There are people out there that have such high activities and post count but knows very little. I think there are rare cases here that a newbie actually knows a lot about bitcoin and the only reason why he's still a newbie is because he just found this forum.
Well, when a newbie doesn't know much, then he or she can get all the information they look for as there are enough people here to answer their questions.

However, the main problem is the way a lot newbies ignore the rules because they either don't care, or simply had no interest in reading them.

Most of the sticky threads contain a lot information and are easy to spot. If you still break rules or ask questions that have been in the sticky threads, then yes, your a fool.
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August 25, 2016, 06:02:42 AM
Well yeah, because newbies does loads of dumb mistakes, often mistakes that other people that are not newbies wouldn't do that, so people think they are dumb
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August 25, 2016, 01:07:19 AM
I never considered newbie foolish, as indeed they really newbie and do not know about anything, so it is natural. but the thing I hate is the newbie usually lazy to read.
We can only judge a newbie by his behaviour and not by its rank in this forum. If the newbie is obviously lazy and knows nothing, then he will be considered as a fool by most people. Otherwise, they'll leave the "newbie" rank alone and respect that user. There are people out there that have such high activities and post count but knows very little. I think there are rare cases here that a newbie actually knows a lot about bitcoin and the only reason why he's still a newbie is because he just found this forum.
legendary
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August 25, 2016, 12:41:25 AM
Yes i was also a newbie and i didn't asked anyone or created threads for each of my answers. I will create a thread when its too emergancy or i am stuck in a problem then i will create one and i know users will help me with what they know

That kind of attitude is really good because you are using your commonsense compared to those lazy newbies out there dont know how to search on their questions, beginners section helps a lot when you are just starting up. Search bar is there and was made for a purpose for anybody. They are just to lazy to find and keep on creating the same question that has been answered already again and again.
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August 24, 2016, 07:52:44 PM
Yes i was also a newbie and i didn't asked anyone or created threads for each of my answers. I will create a thread when its too emergancy or i am stuck in a problem then i will create one and i know users will help me with what they know

of course, theres mostly explained in the read me topic, but what if they need a suggestion or something taht would involve an individual to explain..
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August 24, 2016, 01:43:30 PM
Yes i was also a newbie and i didn't asked anyone or created threads for each of my answers. I will create a thread when its too emergancy or i am stuck in a problem then i will create one and i know users will help me with what they know
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August 24, 2016, 01:35:38 PM
Most of them are unfortunately. Embarrassed
Due to lack of experience and given wrong information from sources that they do not research for themselves.
Because most want a free ride. Tongue Roll Eyes
And we all know in this world, there is no such thing as this.
You have to work hard for anything in this life and pay your dues just like the rest of us all! Angry
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August 24, 2016, 12:36:55 PM
I never considered newbie foolish, as indeed they really newbie and do not know about anything, so it is natural. but the thing I hate is the newbie usually lazy to read.
All newbies are not new to this forum. Many newbies are well familiar with bitcoins and its benefits. They know where and how to earn bitcoins and know about what to do with the bitcoins. Almost all newbies read the threads and posts. Many newbies join in a signature campaign after they are well familiar with posting and rules of the campaigns they are applying for.
legendary
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August 24, 2016, 11:51:36 AM
I never considered newbie foolish, as indeed they really newbie and do not know about anything, so it is natural. but the thing I hate is the newbie usually lazy to read.
sr. member
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August 24, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
I think to consider a newbie worthless or useless and that all is not good. Why I say ? Think about this, if a scammer is clever he can make a newbie account and you will not make any notice and think he is a fool but then you to fool if he will steal some bitcoin. Also anyone here is knew once. Even satoshi  Grin

Lol, that is really not a good logic i guess as no one believes newbies so it is hard for a newbie to fool or scam anyone but people mostly use senior accounts to scam people because they believe them more than a newbie.
legendary
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August 24, 2016, 01:29:36 AM
We cannot consider any newbie a fool just because he/she is new to bitcoin.He may be a guy who is very intelligent than all the others in his studies or work and just new only bitcoins world.So it takes some time for everyone to learrn some thing new so dont consider that newbies are fool and they can be much more intelligent also.

I think that if the newbie is intelligent in studies or work, then he wont just jump on creating a new thread as soon as they open a account and ask a regular question about the forum, as their are so many pinned thread in beginners and help and other sections where if they take some time to surf and get knowledge then they wont ask like this silly questions.

Here only they newbie are getting question who just open the thread and run away without following it.

Right,  some  of newbies are intelligent enough  and  doesnt  intend to ask question since he knows already  that it might be posted somewhere else and thats the time he learns for himself in just  using the search button it really doesnt hurt for someone to use that  search button but  most of people dont know how to use it rather  than they choose to make redundant threads which already been asked and been answered in this forum.

I also done the same thing  when i was  a newbie  i never asked usch question because i already searched for it and there are tons of useful information here in this forum  just go to beginners section and you would know those essentail information that could help you a lot and also try to learn in every  thread that you read so that  it would be added on your ideas.
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