ARE NEWBIES CONSIDERED AS FOOLS? - page 9.

X7

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1009

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Quote from: Daneric on July 04, 2016, 09:07:09 AM

For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

The belief that a newbie mainly stems from us being criticized/ridiculed/Judged/Mocked/Embarrassed for not knowing something, these unfelt emotions generally stay with us into our adult lives. As such we live in a society where getting something wrong or not knowing is frowned upon and often time attacked, which logically makes little sense. For us to learn a topic the very definition of the word learn implies that we are ignorant on this subject until we have learned enough to fundamentally understand it.

Mistakes are a part of learning, this should be embraced not ridiculed.

Fatanut

legendary

Activity: 1008

Merit: 1060

Quote from: Mastsetad on July 28, 2016, 04:07:36 AM

Quote from: Lavander on July 27, 2016, 08:46:23 AM

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

There is also many Newbies as alt-accounts of very experienced users and they open new accounts just to troll other users, or - what is worst - to scam other users. That's why i don't believe "Newbies"

I never heard that point you mentioned, no one believes newbies so how someone will open a newbie account to scam people?
Scammers always buy high rank accounts for scamming people because people after looking the owner with a high rank account think that maybe the service is trustworthy but actually the account is bought.

I think a little social engineering and a little details on your deal to make it realistic could make someone scam anyone. Ever heard of Nigeria scam (can't actually recall the name). A lot of things can be done to scam you. You might not believe it but people usually trust other people whenever they feel safe around them. Scammers take advantage of that nature of humans.

TL;DR: Our mind has weakness and scammers use those to scam people.

Mr. Big

global moderator

Activity: 2324

Merit: 1179

While my guitar gently weeps!!!

Quote from: Harlot on July 28, 2016, 11:15:53 PM

Quote from: Decoded on July 28, 2016, 06:24:50 PM

Just wait until you see a newbie ask to join a signature campaign. You get so much hate. Just for shits and giggles, I made a newbie account and did this. I laughed my ass off.

Well why are sig-campaigns accept newbies like 777 and bitinvest. It means they are giving a chance for newbies to participate in this forum because people here think they are just here for the money. What do you think about the newbies?

Before I think signature campaign is not that familiar and not designed for us to earn money, I think it is more like a reward for participating on threads, but now, it is being abused and been taken advantage by many.. But I don't think that newbies are fools, and high ranking accounts too, they don't just bash those newbies..

If you see a newbie talking with no sense in a thread and seems like they are talking to a wall, I don't think that they are newbie.. Cheesy

Karpeles

legendary

Activity: 1162

Merit: 1000

Newbies are considered as new and naive people, or scammers that don't want to ruin their main account, or shills trolling or with some shady agenda.

Considering that multi accounting is allowed, then most of the times the other options are considered valid first

Harlot

hero member

Activity: 1806

Merit: 672

Quote from: Decoded on July 28, 2016, 06:24:50 PM

Just wait until you see a newbie ask to join a signature campaign. You get so much hate. Just for shits and giggles, I made a newbie account and did this. I laughed my ass off.

Well why are sig-campaigns accept newbies like 777 and bitinvest. It means they are giving a chance for newbies to participate in this forum because people here think they are just here for the money. What do you think about the newbies?

Jambolb2

sr. member

Activity: 444

Merit: 250

Quote from: ChaosticCoder on July 28, 2016, 04:44:28 PM

At the start yes. But everyone was a newbie one day. And i think newbies will ever exist.

Yeah everyone starts from newbie, because of his experience and he learned to be an expert. That's right at any time until there will always be a newbie, but it was nice because we know that it will create other experts

Decoded

legendary

Activity: 1232

Merit: 1030

give me your cryptos

Just wait until you see a newbie ask to join a signature campaign. You get so much hate. Just for shits and giggles, I made a newbie account and did this. I laughed my ass off.

ChaosticCoder

newbie

Activity: 10

Merit: 0

At the start yes. But everyone was a newbie one day. And i think newbies will ever exist.

Zadicar

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1020

DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook

Quote from: ImHash on July 28, 2016, 04:17:08 AM

this is more like to ask whether or not babies are weak and helpless when they are born , stating the obvious, of course newbies
always are fools at first that is why they called newbies, but like every one else they will learn if given time.

In this forum you cant say all newbies are fools since other newbies are some alts of high rank members especially to bought account which having a potential activity stored. Even they are newbie in rank but their knowledge would surpassed as yours. Dont judge and generalize all here newbies are fools it might be a problem if you encounter some newbie but their intellect are legendary. lol

Jambolb2

sr. member

Activity: 444

Merit: 250

Quote from: Mastsetad on July 28, 2016, 04:07:36 AM

I never heard that point you mentioned, no one believes newbies so how someone will open a newbie account to scam people?
Scammers always buy high rank accounts for scamming people because people after looking the owner with a high rank account think that maybe the service is trustworthy but actually the account is bought.

We know the account newbie because they are not trusted, then to the fraudsters who created the account newbie of course useless. so essentially fraudsters are not necessarily using the account newbie often use higher ranks. And remember do not easily trust people you do not know.

ImHash

hero member

Activity: 924

Merit: 506

this is more like to ask whether or not babies are weak and helpless when they are born , stating the obvious, of course newbies
always are fools at first that is why they called newbies, but like every one else they will learn if given time.

Mastsetad

sr. member

Activity: 672

Merit: 250

Quote from: Lavander on July 27, 2016, 08:46:23 AM

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

There is also many Newbies as alt-accounts of very experienced users and they open new accounts just to troll other users, or - what is worst - to scam other users. That's why i don't believe "Newbies"

I never heard that point you mentioned, no one believes newbies so how someone will open a newbie account to scam people?
Scammers always buy high rank accounts for scamming people because people after looking the owner with a high rank account think that maybe the service is trustworthy but actually the account is bought.

chaser15

legendary

Activity: 2688

Merit: 1065

Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game

Quote from: Lavander on July 27, 2016, 08:46:23 AM

There is also many Newbies as alt-accounts of very experienced users and they open new accounts just to troll other users, or - what is worst - to scam other users. That's why i don't believe "Newbies"

It happens but it's up for a person if they will believe in a foolish attempt of that experienced user hiding from newbie account.

In this community, we have lots of person here who can do some wild statement and checking for that newbie asking or requesting for anything. From there, we can make it as a reference if we will help that person or completely ignore it.

Lavander

full member

Activity: 369

Merit: 101

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

There is also many Newbies as alt-accounts of very experienced users and they open new accounts just to troll other users, or - what is worst - to scam other users. That's why i don't believe "Newbies"

Xenophoto

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 502

Quote from: Mastsetad on July 26, 2016, 08:25:02 AM

Quote from: Zadicar on July 25, 2016, 10:07:23 PM

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

We got all that feeling that believing anyone whos higher than us even some things arent realistic enough as you say. I agree to that i experience such thing when im also a newbie too but in the end i just laugh at myself and thinking to those things before whom i believe soo much from higher ranks and realize that theyre just making fun of me. Grin

The ones who make fun of a newbie are actually the real fools, because if someone new comes to a place where we are already old we are not supposed to make fun of him but we are supposed to help him understand what we already know.

Where did you even get the idea that the non-newbie ones are supposed to help newbies? AFAIK there's no rule or something like that in this world.

People like to make fun sometimes and if newbies were never made fun of, or if they never got embarrassed, they wouldn't pursue into becoming someone whom you can't make fun of. Newbies should at least make some mistakes so they could learn lessons. Also, there are things that can only be learned by doing mistakes.

Mastsetad

sr. member

Activity: 672

Merit: 250

Quote from: Zadicar on July 25, 2016, 10:07:23 PM

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

We got all that feeling that believing anyone whos higher than us even some things arent realistic enough as you say. I agree to that i experience such thing when im also a newbie too but in the end i just laugh at myself and thinking to those things before whom i believe soo much from higher ranks and realize that theyre just making fun of me. Grin

The ones who make fun of a newbie are actually the real fools, because if someone new comes to a place where we are already old we are not supposed to make fun of him but we are supposed to help him understand what we already know.

posi

hero member

Activity: 2268

Merit: 579

Vave.com - Crypto Casino

Quote from: Daneric on July 04, 2016, 09:07:09 AM

For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

Youre really right op for what you said cos people see Newbie in this forum as worthless why everybody in this forum also start as Newbie and If a Newbie is inexperience that doesnt gave anybody right to see a Newbie as a punk.

Zadicar

legendary

Activity: 1386

Merit: 1020

DGbet.fun - Crypto Sportsbook

Quote from: Xenophoto on July 25, 2016, 07:33:30 AM

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

We got all that feeling that believing anyone whos higher than us even some things arent realistic enough as you say. I agree to that i experience such thing when im also a newbie too but in the end i just laugh at myself and thinking to those things before whom i believe soo much from higher ranks and realize that theyre just making fun of me. Grin

Xenophoto

hero member

Activity: 826

Merit: 502

Newbies usually get play with by those people who love making fun of people that looks foolish. Some people even scam newbies just to have fun. Tbh, when I was a newbie, I easily believe what everybody above me is saying. I don't think if those things are realistic enough to be true, I just believe them.

There are some newbies though that are experienced in real life. Even if they are newbies in the real world, you can't actually make a fool out of them because they are wise and matured enough to tell if the other person is making them look dumb.

ObscureBean

legendary

Activity: 1148

Merit: 1000

Quote from: Zadicar on July 25, 2016, 02:01:37 AM

Quote from: Harlot on July 24, 2016, 11:28:54 PM

Quote from: dunfida on July 24, 2016, 10:49:19 PM

Quote from: darkmagician on July 24, 2016, 10:05:34 AM

Quote from: Daneric on July 04, 2016, 09:07:09 AM

For a long time on this forum, I see people demonizing newbies for anything. From What I see, a new is considered as someone who doesn't 'know anything and is not supposed to say anything. Whatever you do, you will be told that "you are newbie". I ask myself, does it mean that newbies don't have a voice?

I realized some people build up their accounts and sell them when they are on a higher rank. They then start another account of which they will definitely start as a newbie. Can this person also be considered "worthless"?

it is a part of a newbie strategy to make money. And they are the worthless human who already step up in this forum.

Sad to know there are people are after only to make money in this forum by selling higher account then back to newbie. They think only how to make money and thats not a wise decision, for me its better to make high rank account then build another 1 then another, in that case they can make money joining those accounts on campaigns.

I think that the rank for others make them think they are above as others. Newbies suppose to be Fools, I mean they are just new to BTC or this forum. We really just need some sensitive people to answer or accept what they are asking or saying.

Lets consider some newbies are really newbies on bitcoin world and yes they need some answers regarding to their question but if you have time to look or searched in this forum you might find the answers of your question since thousand of threads are created and being answered already so theres no need to repeat.

Searching can be extremely frustrating if you don't have a powerful enough advanced search system to narrow down the results. I have myself tried to research topics on here a few times. Quite often you end up with a ton of irrelevant threads and it's a pain to sift through them all to find what you're looking for. It's much easier to just ask.
Personally, I don't have any problems with newbies starting topics/questions that have already been discussed before.

Topic: ARE NEWBIES CONSIDERED AS FOOLS? - page 9. (Read 15314 times)