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sr. member
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September 10, 2018, 06:49:21 AM
Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
In such case i would always suggest you to go for the trusted gambling site rather than moving onto any such gambling platform offering ponzi schemes. This is  not the way gambling goes. Gambling has some certain rules and regulations and also the bets there goes on the demand factor which does not allow them to cheat but any ponzi gambling site which just want to scam their users can fix a match and can get the most out of you.

Untill now i have never came accross any such site so i think that there is no such site offering fixed games and gambles. The gambling should always go loyal because of some terms. You can predict a game before it is been played but you can't actually bet a exact gamble before the game starts.
legendary
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September 10, 2018, 06:05:39 AM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
What is generally important is to utilize gambling platforms with very good reputation for those who may want to gamble. There are some gambling platforms that are bad eggs and they are just there to fix their site in their favor even if they claim it is provably fair and those are the scam ones. However, for reputable ones, there is what the call provably fair with the usage of some mathematical algorithm to control the bets.
Well, you could test the provably fair of different sites. Try to read this one https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
The easy way is just to check if there are a lot of players playing and continues to, then that's the best way to see if it's fair.

Most online gambling dice sites or casinos are provably fair which is fair to gamblers. However, jackpot games are not provably fair and casino operators can increase the house edge by lowering the winning percentage of various prizes. Generally, it is safe to bet on games that are labelled "provably fair".
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September 10, 2018, 03:52:38 AM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
What is generally important is to utilize gambling platforms with very good reputation for those who may want to gamble. There are some gambling platforms that are bad eggs and they are just there to fix their site in their favor even if they claim it is provably fair and those are the scam ones. However, for reputable ones, there is what the call provably fair with the usage of some mathematical algorithm to control the bets.
Well, you could test the provably fair of different sites. Try to read this one https://dicesites.com/provably-fair
The easy way is just to check if there are a lot of players playing and continues to, then that's the best way to see if it's fair.
jr. member
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September 10, 2018, 03:32:45 AM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
What is generally important is to utilize gambling platforms with very good reputation for those who may want to gamble. There are some gambling platforms that are bad eggs and they are just there to fix their site in their favor even if they claim it is provably fair and those are the scam ones. However, for reputable ones, there is what the call provably fair with the usage of some mathematical algorithm to control the bets.
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September 10, 2018, 03:14:29 AM
I am sure that there are some instances that these online gambling control the games. Maybe they just don't do it on every games but it could be on your way up where your winnings are so much that they have a feature that will alert them when it happens then they will make you lose or they could also make you feel lucky at the start so you'll just continue to bet but they already fixed it to make you lose in the long run.
legendary
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September 09, 2018, 02:24:19 PM
Such things will be rare and the community around bitcointalk are quick to report such events. In case of any unscrupulous activity by any gambling site which is stealing their customers money, there are people who are vigilantly checking every site's provably fair algorithm. You can yourself do so in most of the sites.

Point is that some people dont accept the fact and claim that the casino stole their money when they actually lost their money for being unlucky but the rolls were fair.

That's certainly true, mate. Most of the claims made by gamblers where they have lost their money are simply mistakes from their part. However, there are some games which are fraudulent as they're programmed to make you lose every time without leaving you the chance to experience a winning streak. That's why it's best to check for reviews online about a specific gambling game you're interested or seek advice from reputable members of this forum.

For gambling games that are based on smart contracts, it's easy to determine whenever they're fixed or not by checking their code. However, most gambling games we know and love today, still rely on old technologies which rely on a central operator. Which is why, it is best to do your own research before deciding to place a bet on such games.

Hopefully, gambling games which make use of blockchain technology would become popular in the mainstream world as they're provably fair, transparent, and much more secure than regular or traditional gambling games which rely on a middleman. In the future, it's believed that gambling games would become fairer by using such technology for the benefit of everyone. Just my thoughts Grin
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September 08, 2018, 08:09:44 AM
What I understand about both online and traditional gambling is that their casino are mathematical setup. Although, we have a situations where some gambling site fixed their game but the only way not to be a prey is to go for licensed gamble site long existing with good reputation.
Such things will be rare and the community around bitcointalk are quick to report such events. In case of any unscrupulous activity by any gambling site which is stealing their customers money, there are people who are vigilantly checking every site's provably fair algorithm. You can yourself do so in most of the sites.

Point is that some people dont accept the fact and claim that the casino stole their money when they actually lost their money for being unlucky but the rolls were fair.
Yeah! Most of the sites that usually have fixed games, don’t last and this is the reason why it is always necessary to just make use of well-known sites to gamble. Sure, it might be a very hard thing for some people to understand what provabial fair even means and I have heard people say as long as it is an algorithm and it is manmade, it is subject to be programmed in a way that would always favor the house edge.

Well, it is still gambling and like you said, it is just a hard thing for people to realize that gambling is a game of luck and you are bound to lose more than you can win anyway.
legendary
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September 08, 2018, 04:09:40 AM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
yes, because sports gambling only relies on guess scores or the team we rely on. To win a match in a gambling sport really depends only on luck, although in other gambling games it depends on the same thing based on luck, but in sports gambling, we play not rely on special skills but only do research on the chosen team.

It's a known fact that some sport events are rigged, but gambling sites can do nothing about it, and, as far as I know, they has nothing to do with this malicious practice. I even read that Betfair, for example, has alerted dozens of sports about suspicious betting, helping to disclose some fraudulent activity.

Speaking of other games, like dice, plinko, roulette, slots, black jack, video poker and lotto, they are definitely not fixed on provably fair sites.
sr. member
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September 08, 2018, 01:53:46 AM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
yes, because sports gambling only relies on guess scores or the team we rely on. To win a match in a gambling sport really depends only on luck, although in other gambling games it depends on the same thing based on luck, but in sports gambling, we play not rely on special skills but only do research on the chosen team.
legendary
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September 05, 2018, 03:41:13 AM
What I understand about both online and traditional gambling is that their casino are mathematical setup. Although, we have a situations where some gambling site fixed their game but the only way not to be a prey is to go for licensed gamble site long existing with good reputation.
Such things will be rare and the community around bitcointalk are quick to report such events. In case of any unscrupulous activity by any gambling site which is stealing their customers money, there are people who are vigilantly checking every site's provably fair algorithm. You can yourself do so in most of the sites.

Point is that some people dont accept the fact and claim that the casino stole their money when they actually lost their money for being unlucky but the rolls were fair.
legendary
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September 02, 2018, 06:31:08 PM
I think there are really scam sites but it's only a few but not all. There are sites which are transparent with transactions and you can check them legitimately. Also, friend referrals are a big help (especially if you trust this friend not to bring you to harm or be scammed). I guess you will know if you’re being played when you start to question the methods and once you have noticed a pattern.

That's certainly true, mate. It's always advised to check on a specific online gambling site before placing your bets on it. Some are fishy as they don't provide information related to bets placed by all the players, their bankroll, etc. However, others are transparent, which results in confidence from gamblers within a specific gambling site. There are many reviews available across the web which you can find related to gambling sites which accept cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin or even traditional ones which accept fiat.

While scam sites are usually associated with the acceptance of cryptocurrencies as the only medium of exchange, that's not the case, as there are a few which are truly legitimate (like the one under my signature). For greater transparency, reliability, and fairness, smart contract-based gambling sites are far superior than traditional online gambling sites. The probability of such games becoming fixed is very minimum due to the transparency of the blockchain. If you suspect that a specific game is not fair, you can always check its source code. The only downside related to games which rely on smart contracts, is the high fees of the blockchain network due to scalability limitations.

However, once they become perfect, then they could easily take the gambling industry by storm. Nevertheless, there are a huge variety of gambling sites nowadays which are provably fair and have little chances by being fixed by their owners. Just my opinion Smiley
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August 30, 2018, 05:05:02 PM
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.

Same as me, till now i have not faced such an issue like games being fixed.
I would just called them rather rigid.
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August 30, 2018, 10:50:57 AM
What I understand about both online and traditional gambling is that their casino are mathematical setup. Although, we have a situations where some gambling site fixed their game but the only way not to be a prey is to go for licensed gamble site long existing with good reputation.


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August 29, 2018, 11:41:38 PM
As for me online gambling varies on their capabilities depending on how the game earns profitable winning.
Every game will have profitable winnings if they are lucky. If they are not lucky then they lose. As simple as that. Online or offline is irrelevant because that does not "vary" your luck in any manner.

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However players always trusted the game host as well as the team players came along the gameplay situation.
True, but then fixed games cannot be discerned from non-fixed games. In most cases the games are played in such a way that audience will never understand the nature of fixing but the conspiracy theorists will always be there.

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Thinking about fair games, it doesn't have the assurance at all times because the game online has its own plans and strategies to follow.
Thats a wrong assumption to make. Learn more about provably fair system of games before you say such things. Rest assured those sites which have been running from age old times are not fixed in anyway.
I think there are really scam sites but it's only a few but not all. There are sites which are transparent with transactions and you can check them legitimately. Also, friend referrals are a big help (especially if you trust this friend not to bring you to harm or be scammed). I guess you will know if you’re being played when you start to question the methods and once you have noticed a pattern.
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August 23, 2018, 04:09:24 AM
As for me online gambling varies on their capabilities depending on how the game earns profitable winning.
Every game will have profitable winnings if they are lucky. If they are not lucky then they lose. As simple as that. Online or offline is irrelevant because that does not "vary" your luck in any manner.

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However players always trusted the game host as well as the team players came along the gameplay situation.
True, but then fixed games cannot be discerned from non-fixed games. In most cases the games are played in such a way that audience will never understand the nature of fixing but the conspiracy theorists will always be there.

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Thinking about fair games, it doesn't have the assurance at all times because the game online has its own plans and strategies to follow.
Thats a wrong assumption to make. Learn more about provably fair system of games before you say such things. Rest assured those sites which have been running from age old times are not fixed in anyway.
legendary
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August 22, 2018, 07:34:56 AM
Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
Some newly and with low capital funded ones might really be scary and scammy however those are really showing themselves. However, the bigger ones, the huge casinos that makes a killing from just existing do not require to fix games to be honest.

First of all they mostly have provably fair which means there is no way they can be fixed because you can check if the seed is true or not and the result can be double checked if you are scammed or not. However they are already making a ton of money from just letting you gamble all your money away with the house edge protecting their rights, why would anyone want to ruin that ?

Why would they risk insane amounts of profits with something as silly as fixing small games?

Good comparison. Why should they damage fairness if they can make big profits in the long run. Maybe sites that intend to deceive their users with games that aren't truly fair are sites with overly greedy admin who want to make a profit in the short run.
legendary
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August 22, 2018, 04:20:47 AM
Do you think that some online gambling games fixed? How to spot such websites  ?
Some newly and with low capital funded ones might really be scary and scammy however those are really showing themselves. However, the bigger ones, the huge casinos that makes a killing from just existing do not require to fix games to be honest.

First of all they mostly have provably fair which means there is no way they can be fixed because you can check if the seed is true or not and the result can be double checked if you are scammed or not. However they are already making a ton of money from just letting you gamble all your money away with the house edge protecting their rights, why would anyone want to ruin that ?

Why would they risk insane amounts of profits with something as silly as fixing small games?
sr. member
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August 21, 2018, 04:39:49 PM
If games were reach then why the sites allows the high rolls to win,I saw there were lot of big rewards also win in the gambling sites.
There are big wins and there are big losses as well. If we watch only one side we would have a biased opinion. Both profit and loss happen and thus if a person is thinking of gambling they should consider the fact that even if the games are provably fair, the chance of win or loss is 50-50. Hence they should not gamble with their saving money or their monthly salary. If they do then its their decision to play. The casinos never force anyone to play.

On paper, trustworthy casinos cannot afford to cheat with games. There are heavy audits on the random generator system. However, I prefer live casino even online opposed to those "fruit machines".
On online as well they are trustworthy. You just need to make sure the games are provably fair. Thats all.

As for me online gambling varies on their capabilities depending on how the game earns profitable winning. However players always trusted the game host as well as the team players came along the gameplay situation. Thinking about fair games, it doesn't have the assurance at all times because the game online has its own plans and strategies to follow.
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August 21, 2018, 09:06:56 AM
If you follow the bets / rolls, streaks and guide yourself from a probabily fair code check you will be able to verify your bets.
Try that in first place before assuming some Cassino is rigid / has fixed bets.
When it comes down to losing money in casino everyone thinks that the casino is rigged and they wont be able to win back their money. While mabye a few minutes back they were the same people who trusted that casino with all their money.

Its human nature to be self-centered and thus this happens with every liberty seeking person out there. They know that the casino's bets are provably fair but will continue harassing mods and support team with complaints which ultimately have zero effect.
I think fixed can only be possible in sports gambling, casinos has house edge so in the long run we will lose.
We should accept that reality that we are just burning our money if we play in casino, instead of longing to be profitable, just accept the reality and enjoy what you spend.
I think not all sports gambling can be consider as fixed. I am playing sports gambling for a long long time. even my more interest is in sports gambling, for most of the time I found sports gambling very fair and even make a lot of money from it. Therefore I do not think that sports gambling are always fixed.
 
legendary
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August 21, 2018, 03:43:22 AM
If games were reach then why the sites allows the high rolls to win,I saw there were lot of big rewards also win in the gambling sites.
There are big wins and there are big losses as well. If we watch only one side we would have a biased opinion. Both profit and loss happen and thus if a person is thinking of gambling they should consider the fact that even if the games are provably fair, the chance of win or loss is 50-50. Hence they should not gamble with their saving money or their monthly salary. If they do then its their decision to play. The casinos never force anyone to play.

On paper, trustworthy casinos cannot afford to cheat with games. There are heavy audits on the random generator system. However, I prefer live casino even online opposed to those "fruit machines".
On online as well they are trustworthy. You just need to make sure the games are provably fair. Thats all.
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