Are online gambling games fixed? - page 3.

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Quote from: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 03:40:22 PM

If they have provably fair, no.

Although, I'd be suspicious of every single website you use. Don't just believe the provably fair, test it out.

Exactly. There are many gambling games which claim that are provably fair, but, they’re rigged. You just need to experiment with them, to determine if they're indeed provably fair or not. This applies to regular online gambling games which are controlled by a central operator. However, with the newest iteration of smart contract-based gambling games, it's nearly impossible to rig the game or cheat on it.

I've known of several online gambling games which rely on the Ethereum blockchain and are indeed provably fair. They're based on a coded mathematical formula which serve their purpose of being fair. Speaking of this, you should check out FunFair as it's based on the Ethereum blockchain with a few provably fair games.

To be safe, test out the game or simply read reviews about it, before placing your bets. If the gambling game is not rigged, then you can win if you keep trying. Just my thoughts Grin

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Quote from: szpalata on July 30, 2018, 11:35:16 PM

Some could be fixed and i am not holding brief for them but you can't also expect to get everything 100% fair without bearing some risk because the bookies are also there to make money and just like they are able to tilt the tables in the casinos they can also fix games or fizzle with some software code to their advantage.

Yes it may be but in some cases and not in every match, otherwise the people will lose their trust and will then take no interest in online gambling games, for attracting more and more gambling to online gambling world it is necessary to provide them a fair gambling opportunities and to facilitate them.

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Quote from: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 03:40:22 PM

If they have provably fair, no.

Although, I'd be suspicious of every single website you use. Don't just believe the provably fair, test it out.

Yeah it is good to verify the legitimacy of bets if we found something odd. I always does that. Provably fair is really a good technology. Most online casinos would stay so much long if they didn't have provably fair system implemented on their platform.

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On paper, trustworthy casinos cannot afford to cheat with games. There are heavy audits on the random generator system. However, I prefer live casino even online opposed to those "fruit machines".

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Quote from: Devawnm367 on August 15, 2018, 09:55:28 AM

They house has always got the advantage but It is worse in the online casino Industry. I have gotten some shady hands and been beaten some shady ways. I do not trust slots or etc. I like to play cards and places with real cards so I know it is fair!!!

Isee your point there and i agree on it when you mean basically that you like to play / gamble in a way you can see your odds as in real life viewing without any hideouts

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Quote from: Taki on August 15, 2018, 09:54:29 AM

How do you mean 'fixed'? Do you mean that there are websites for online gambling where a player never wins? Well, I'm on the side of saying 'the casino never loses'. I can't call any particular gambling site, I think each of them have this sin, but they give to win to some people in anyway, cause of if there is no winner at all the site won't be popular, and the target of every gambling site or place is to attract as much players as it is possible.

Yes indeed they give some winnings in some gamblers, they need to attract more players to visit their site, in some ways they can take the advantage since house edge already there then after that gamblers who will stay long have a chance to lose everything and get addicted no need for them to fixed and ruined their business.

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Quote from: Devawnm367 on August 15, 2018, 09:55:28 AM

They house has always got the advantage but It is worse in the online casino Industry. I have gotten some shady hands and been beaten some shady ways. I do not trust slots or etc. I like to play cards and places with real cards so I know it is fair!!!

Casino industry completely doing many fixed games mate but most on crypto paying sites seems legit only. Here sometime you will find that online casino also doing the fixed games or back end monitering cum player in that game.
So please be careful while you invest on the gambling field. I do not suggest to anyone on investing on poker or casino. Betting may be your choice to get the fixed kind of games but not fixed one.

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They house has always got the advantage but It is worse in the online casino Industry. I have gotten some shady hands and been beaten some shady ways. I do not trust slots or etc. I like to play cards and places with real cards so I know it is fair!!!

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How do you mean 'fixed'? Do you mean that there are websites for online gambling where a player never wins? Well, I'm on the side of saying 'the casino never loses'. I can't call any particular gambling site, I think each of them have this sin, but they give to win to some people in anyway, cause of if there is no winner at all the site won't be popular, and the target of every gambling site or place is to attract as much players as it is possible.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on August 12, 2018, 04:10:48 AM

Quote from: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 03:40:22 PM

If they have provably fair, no.
Although, I'd be suspicious of every single website you use. Don't just believe the provably fair, test it out.

Sometimes people are not looking at the gambling industry from the other side. They tend to blame the casino for every loss while in reality it was just their luck.

Absolutely,they were blaming the gambling sites for their loss,they even know that they can't win all the times but they were still accusing them later for their loss,but we can't change that this is the human nature.

If games were reach then why the sites allows the high rolls to win,I saw there were lot of big rewards also win in the gambling sites.

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Quote from: Initscri on August 09, 2018, 03:40:22 PM

If they have provably fair, no.
Although, I'd be suspicious of every single website you use. Don't just believe the provably fair, test it out.

You can use a dice site verifier provided by third parties to verify you rolls. All the big casinos out there are transparent about their code and they would allow you to verify each and every roll to be mathematically unbiased. They even allow you the chance to change seeds if you want. If a site is not provably fair, there is a high chance of it running away with your money so you should not cautious of such sites.

Sometimes people are not looking at the gambling industry from the other side. They tend to blame the casino for every loss while in reality it was just their luck.

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Quote from: Barcode_ on August 10, 2018, 03:44:47 AM

If anyone is worried about online casinos fixing the players game result, the players should always try to search and play on a casino that have a legit provably fair system implemented on their games, that would allow the players to be able to verify all the games result and thus avoiding wasting their money playing on casinos that are scam.

Trust is the most important when we play in the casino games, and if every player should gamble straight it's certain to gain higher profit. There's no fixed potential winnings, because most of the time it varies depending on how good is the game you're playing of. Scam casino's will totally steal your money despite of how good are you in betting. Most importantly know what you're going to deal specially online casino, always had anonymous involvement to every unknown players.

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If anyone is worried about online casinos fixing the players game result, the players should always try to search and play on a casino that have a legit provably fair system implemented on their games, that would allow the players to be able to verify all the games result and thus avoiding wasting their money playing on casinos that are scam.

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Well in the end you should lookout for those scam sites giving out lots of profits (income) where in normal Cassinos you knew you would not get any.
Lets say for example "SPIN to WIN" sites like you get instant profits... That's like pure scam already.

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If they have provably fair, no.

Although, I'd be suspicious of every single website you use. Don't just believe the provably fair, test it out.

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Just make sure that you've find the trust site based on community feedback.

For example : I play primedice ,4 years ago and it still not get my trust until I find bitcointalk community putting positive attitude toward them !

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on August 03, 2018, 03:12:06 AM

Quote from: Symphonized on August 01, 2018, 11:21:25 PM

If you follow the bets / rolls, streaks and guide yourself from a probabily fair code check you will be able to verify your bets.
Try that in first place before assuming some Cassino is rigid / has fixed bets.

When it comes down to losing money in casino everyone thinks that the casino is rigged and they wont be able to win back their money. While mabye a few minutes back they were the same people who trusted that casino with all their money.

Its human nature to be self-centered and thus this happens with every liberty seeking person out there. They know that the casino's bets are provably fair but will continue harassing mods and support team with complaints which ultimately have zero effect.

I couldn't agree more. We've seen that numerous times either here, on bitcointalk, or in the chat boxes on gambling sites. It is so common that people have even started saying it jokingly. I was saying it couple of times myself, but of course always with a smiley.

As long as provably fair casinos are around it shouldn't be even a question (I mean the OP).

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Quote from: BitBustah on August 05, 2018, 06:56:34 PM

Just stick with reputable sites that have a long history of fair gaming. You can find information and reviews right here on the Bitcointalk Forums. New Gambling sites may be questionable so it's best to only gamble with a small amount at first to test out their casino.

Yes, this is a good strategy when moving to new websites but in theory most, if not all gambling websites should have fixed games, though this is not entirely applicable to all sites. This can also be check on their website under the section when they speak about provably fair games.

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Quote from: pixie85 on August 05, 2018, 03:20:53 PM

Very small or new casinos can be fixing games which is the reason why people stick to the well known ones that were reviewed by many people and have good reputation. Those will never scam you because the reputation is worth a lot of money. Much more than they would be able to steal from you. Be aware of exit scams though.

I think the new casino's usually people not believe because once we lost our money there is no way to get back our lost. and yes some people will create a site to cheat people that's why always prefer old reputed sites. If you face any problem just report in this forum they will solve asap and i don't think all online games are fixed.

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