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Quote from: piebeyb on December 10, 2023, 06:49:16 AM

It seems yes and slots are very popular at the moment because they are promoted everywhere so maybe many gamblers have switched to playing the game because it is very easy to play. I'm even sure that minors can play it. Just bet every spin waiting for the jackpot to be won. The different thing is that Dice games may seem a little old-fashioned so there are several games that are similar to dice that use the same system to regulate the chances of winning, but slots are still very popular.

As you know, not all slot users understand complicated details such as RTP and others, most slot gamblers always focus on playing and waiting for the jackpot without having to see how they win it. With a little knowledge of volatility and RTP, every intelligent slot gambler will usually learn from every loss but a loser won't want to understand it, they just keep playing, wasting their money.

It's true, lately people are more involved in slot betting than some other types of gambling, the number of audiences who join is none other than because of the promotions carried out by large casinos, their interest increases when they know that this type of gambling is very easy to access wherever and whenever you want. But on the other hand I think this type of gambling is the most difficult to win because the algorithm applied is completely random and difficult to solve even if you have some best way that you think is good, I've tried it and it's useless. I think one of the reasons casinos are making bigger promotions on slot betting by making it easier to reach and easier to understand the games that are there is because it's hard to win there so it increases the income of the casino itself and not everyone realizes the difficulty of the randomness that is there.

Yes they just play and continue to play without knowing how to win, nothing more they are like pitting their luck with luck based on high hopes, for the problem of RTP machines I see some of them have no effect at all, I have proven when the RTP percentage is high but the game goes very badly, but maybe there are also some sites that provide accurate RTP.

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It seems yes and slots are very popular at the moment because they are promoted everywhere so maybe many gamblers have switched to playing the game because it is very easy to play. I'm even sure that minors can play it. Just bet every spin waiting for the jackpot to be won. The different thing is that Dice games may seem a little old-fashioned so there are several games that are similar to dice that use the same system to regulate the chances of winning, but slots are still very popular.

As you know, not all slot users understand complicated details such as RTP and others, most slot gamblers always focus on playing and waiting for the jackpot without having to see how they win it. With a little knowledge of volatility and RTP, every intelligent slot gambler will usually learn from every loss but a loser won't want to understand it, they just keep playing, wasting their money.

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Because slots were designed to make the player either not earn anything or make you earn a lot money if you can get huge multipliers. If slots are hard to understand, they need to play crash, it's not same but can give you an idea if there's a probability you can get a lot money than you think.

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If it is easy to understand and easy to win then it is not gambling game but charity game, little joke and return to the main discussion.

Slots are games that have all been arranged and designed by the game provider in such a way that it is more difficult for gamblers to win but can also remain curious to keep playing at all times.
Slots have fractional table that has random algorithm and no gambler can guess the algorithm correctly.
This is intended because they created slot games as place to do business and we as gamblers come to play for fun and pay for each round by hoping that luck will come to win in exchange for the payments we have made in each round.

Quote from: alani123 on December 08, 2023, 04:36:36 PM

However with slots, you never know your win chance. You don't know what increasing your wager or coins does to winning chances and it's generally all so opaque.

If you differentiate dice from slots, of course there is quite a significant difference in terms of chances of winning.
Of course every gambler will feel that slots are game that really relies on luck and the opportunity to win feels blurry or not visible at all.

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If you have a lot of time, you should make sure that you have a good idea of what you are getting into. Unlike other types of gambling that rely heavily on the skills and knowledge we have. Slot gambling is far from that, this gambling only relies on luck. So it is very difficult for us to increase the possibility of getting a big win.

In doing slot gambling, I really don't believe that in this type of game there are tricks and patterns to win the game. Because obviously this is machine gambling, where the machine has been arranged in such a way as to be able to provide benefits to the owner, not to the players.
So for slot gamblers who spend time learning special tricks and patterns to win this type of gambling, I say it's useless and a waste of time.

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There is nothing complicated about slots, it's just that the nature of the two games is different, one is a bit easier to understand and play, the other one is a bit complicated and there can also be restrictions about the base bet in slots game because some of them might allow you to start gambling with a lower amount but some might not do that and you will have to start gambling with a higher base bet than you usually use when you are gambling.

Terms like RTP, RNG, and volatility are not that difficult to understand if a person does simple research about them, they can easily understand what these terms stand for, what their purpose is in the slots machines, and how they are useful and important for the gamblers that chose to gamble more in slots than other games.

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I admit that winning slot games is very difficult because luck must come to give us the chance to win. Most people lose when playing slot games, but that doesn't make them stop they continue playing this slot game. Moreover, there are many interesting slot providers to play, making people even more curious about getting big multipliers, which means big wins. Compared to dice games, I like slot games because I can play lots of slot games from various slot providers. And it's the possibility of winning from each slot game that keeps us coming back and trying to get lucky. Meanwhile, no one knows when we can win from slot games, and that's why we keep trying from day to day.

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You can check the info on every slot you play. It shows what the paylines are, what it takes to hit a bonus, and how much a winning combo pays in accordance with your bet size. I'm not sure what is confusing?

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If you are not into numbers, slots will be hard to understand but if you are curious about the probability to win and its fairness, then you can look into those numbers.

In real life, slots player are just there to play the game and understand some rules of the game, slots are the easiest game you can play because you just need to spin/bet and the machine will do the rest for you.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 08, 2023, 05:40:23 PM

I think inherently they are difficult to understand because there is so much going on. It's on purpose the lights, pictures and all the different ways ypu can win are all to keep you engaged and have an entertaining time. But yeah I'm with you I don't play them for that reason. Sometimes when I thought I won nothing happened and vice versa

While on a contrary, to me i don't see slot game as a difficult game to understand, as long as it's all about being lucky for one to win it, someone without experience may also make his way forward in giving a try and win, that may be his own personal opportunity, going further to study the way it's been played, the lights, pictures and other menu drop boxs that may constitute other required or vital features to learn and understand their use may not be that necessary for a start than when we just try out our best of luck in it.

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Quote from: Renampun on December 09, 2023, 02:27:11 PM

I don't really bother with the various rules on slots, because all I think about is playing and getting the jackpot and that's all. There's no need to be too confused about thinking about volatility, RTP or whatever in slots because that's how the designers designed the game, of course they have their own goals for designing slot games with these features, maybe it's to make it more interesting, challenging and sustainable, but in general the outline is accessible and easy for everyone to play.

I’m also thinking if all the gamblers understand this first before playing slots because personally I don’t and all I know is to click the spin and let the system works for me, we all know how slots works and winning will always depend on your luck. Just enjoy the slots from a good game provider on a good site, I’m sure the probability to win are much higher and you don’t have to think about the RTP or volatility, its a play and go for a purpose.

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One thing I've always known and believed is that all games are not designed the same way, they are not designed to function or operate same way.
A dice game is a dice game, while a slot game is a slot game, and lets not do away with the fact that, dice games are built, designed and managed by the casino themselves respectively speaking, while slot games are built, designed and managed by third party game providers, casinos only integrate slot games into their system, and as such, there may be some data that may likely not be made available to the player like win chances and all that, just like they are available when playing in-house games like dice, Hi-Lo and others.

This is just my assumptions though, I may be wrong after all.

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I don't really bother with the various rules on slots, because all I think about is playing and getting the jackpot and that's all. There's no need to be too confused about thinking about volatility, RTP or whatever in slots because that's how the designers designed the game, of course they have their own goals for designing slot games with these features, maybe it's to make it more interesting, challenging and sustainable, but in general the outline is accessible and easy for everyone to play.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 08, 2023, 04:36:36 PM

Players of slots seem to be unlikely to look into these details due to how complicated it is.

There is nothing complicated about slots... we spin them with the hope of getting the bonus round, and when we hit the bonus, we hope we will be lucky enough to score some big payout. If we have a nice balance, we can even consider bonus buying, which is a nice way to skip that chase for the bonus, but it comes with a higher risk of losing more money pretty quickly, but at the same time, we get a chance to score something big.

Slots are interesting to play, there are so many different slots with different graphics and features. But they are risky as hell because of the high volatility, so it's not recommended to play slots if you can't afford to lose that balance. You don't have to bust your balance like many of us did so many times before you figure that out! Good luck...

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on December 08, 2023, 05:05:08 PM

Their philosophy is pretty straightforward; you just pull down the lever (or click a button) and that's it. Personally, I don't think they're worth it, and I avoid them like a plague.

People are more comfortable with slot even though its somewhat old fashioned. At least its something that's understandable and they can deal with.

Most times, when complex things exist for too long it becomes easy. It doesn't give up its trait of complexity but people coin ways to ease it by looking for receptors to accommodate it

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From the start I don't really understand slots but sometimes I try to get into it to see if I can understand a little about it, but it seems that the more I try the more I get confused.
I am a football lover, not because it is very easy to predict but because it fun too (like the kind of fun you will have if you and your partner or any sport lover watches football together).
Because I don't understand slots, I normally lose almost every of my stake on slots.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 08, 2023, 05:40:23 PM

Quote from: alani123 on December 08, 2023, 04:36:36 PM

If anyone has gotten used to gambling through crypto casinos, it's likely that they've become accustomed to games like dice. With dice everything is crystal clear: You know your winning odds and how much you are going to win if you roll within your target.
However with slots, you never know your win chance. You don't know what increasing your wager or coins does to winning chances and it's generally all so opaque.

Instead of winning chances there's terms like volatility and RTP, which make little sense unless to the individual gambler. Honestly dice was complicated enough, slots are just too much. Makes me think that it could be on purpose. Players of slots seem to be unlikely to look into these details due to how complicated it is.

Has that been your experience too?

I think inherently they are difficult to understand because there is so much going on. It's on purpose the lights, pictures and all the different ways ypu can win are all to keep you engaged and have an entertaining time. But yeah I'm with you I don't play them for that reason. Sometimes when I thought I won nothing happened and vice versa

Ahh this is interesting- this is what I also noticed with slots with all the confusing symbols and images.

Every time you attempt to play slots, it will roll on a certain number of slots and images then you would see different combinations with the respective value that you have won. Yeah I agree, it is confusing to know if you have won or not but the game automatically tells you that you've won "xxx" amount of money from the combination that was garnered.

I agree with the replies here- you should not understand it to begin with. You just roll and play until you see a desired result. Besides, you cannot control the odds as everything is randomized to begin with.

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Quote from: len01 on December 08, 2023, 08:58:03 PM

Its not difficult to understand slot games and its all just about random numbers and how much luck there is but somehow many people take this slot game too seriously while slots are provided to provide fun without having to understand deeply how to win etc. for me, RTP does not affect anything because RTP sometimes does not work as we think, in fact I once only got maxwin in just 1x spin.

and related to comparing dice and slot games, both of them are equally complicated because they depend on luck and how difficult the opportunity you choose is and what is certain is that both of these games use random numbers which we dont need to think about deeply as long as we want to play, just do it if we are lucky we will get big wins after few spins.

I agree with you, I also don't consider RTP as a race in gambling slots. for me, the RTP that is on each slot site does not guarantee that each spin will be good or guarantee easy wins, it doesn't have any effect at all.

But there are indeed people who gamble slots by using RTP as a race from gambling, they think that slot games that have a large percentage of RTP are good, he said. but I see that in the end they get defeat too, not victory. basically all slot gambling in my opinion cannot be separated from luck that takes sides. in my opinion even if the game has a high percentage value of RTP if they are not lucky, it's the same as they won't get a win. also RTP which has a high percentage value does not rule out the possibility that gamblers who play will lose. because the victory they get is based on luck.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 08, 2023, 04:36:36 PM

If anyone has gotten used to gambling through crypto casinos, it's likely that they've become accustomed to games like dice. With dice everything is crystal clear: You know your winning odds and how much you are going to win if you roll within your target.
However with slots, you never know your win chance. You don't know what increasing your wager or coins does to winning chances and it's generally all so opaque.

Instead of winning chances there's terms like volatility and RTP, which make little sense unless to the individual gambler. Honestly dice was complicated enough, slots are just too much. Makes me think that it could be on purpose. Players of slots seem to be unlikely to look into these details due to how complicated it is.

Has that been your experience too?

Their are other games in the crypto casino like High-Low which was based on the prediction of the cards and it’s was similar to the dice algorithms.If you have the capacity to predict the cards correctly,the possibilities of winning will be more.But again it’s based on the probability,So even you can loss the entire money,if you play on the random bet.Sometimes I made the good profit and sometimes I loss all of my deposits.So predicting the cards give us the thrill of finding the correct options.If you have luck and good predictions techniques,you can get the multiple of 12.5x of the betting money.If you wrongly predict many times,it may leads to big losses.

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This is crucial to gambling, especially slots. Slots can be trickier than dice. It may be intentional. Slots may intentionally have unclear odds and misleading phrases like RTP and volatility. A lack of clarity might make it hard for players to make judgments, resulting to additional expenditure. It may help casinos but presents ethical concerns.

Ask yourself: Shouldnt all casino games be transparent? After all, players ought to know what they're getting into. Understanding slots can be difficult, but it may also encourage gambling. Adding confusion to a simple game is a real deal. The players must stay informed and the casinos must promote transparency.

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