Are there any truly safe bets in sports betting?

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on November 18, 2020, 06:59:06 PM

Quote from: sempak on November 10, 2020, 03:51:50 PM

Yes, there is a very safe bet. Don't bet anything so you can't lose. 100% successful. That is the best bet.

Yep! One of the best ideas I've ever read about this topic. Who can lose in sports betting if you are not actually betting, am I right? There's another thing, you could predict who's winning and bet nothing on it. You might not win money but you called it. Grin

Well the safe bets lies in our or your hands. Your control over your desire were the one who can save you from the huge lose ahead. But since it is a gambling we already know that it is also a principle of gambling of having encounter loses and the risks were also there. It isn't a gambling if you know or you're sure that you may get a profit from it. That's why we are dealing gambling because for sure win or lose were only happen.

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Quote from: rijaljun on November 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

That's why am very skeptical about this sport betting becasue they can't be rely upon most times. The high rollers are the victims in this case, some of these gamblers don't see gambling as a base luck game. Either bet below or higher, sport betting should be handle with care becasue it's purely base on luck no matter how professional a gambler is in this industry.

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Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 06:56:53 PM

I don't know how bookmakers will know that the match was negotiated. Perhaps such information appears to the police or somewhere else. Maybe someone made a very big bet on the incredible outcome of the match. There are a lot of players in the contract matches, someone can talk to his wife, she will tell her friend and so the information went further.

Bookmakers receive all information about fixed matches by statistics of accepted bets. As soon as they notice anomalous activity - a large number of bets on a certain outcome of the match, then the match immediately falls under suspicion, if this imbalance continues to increase, they cancel the match as suspicious. Statistics let you see everything. And you must understand that all bookmakers interact with each other on this issue. Therefore, using different bookmakers to cheat will not help.
Obviously, you can dishonestly win a small amount without anyone noticing it, but this is not profitable for scammers and athletes who are willing to cheat.

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Low odds means technically low risk bet but in practical low odd game is more risky because we are going to lose everything if we lose the game but going to get very little when we won. So in my opinion betting low amount on high odds game is the safest among all other choices since we lose very little only even if we lose but if we win the percentage will be high.

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There is no 100% guarantee for any bets in any matches. I remember the times I lost a bet that I thought there was no way to lose. You can increase your winning chance by analyzing the matches really good. By doing that, I can say that I have increased my winning rate at a high rate.

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Quote from: sempak on November 10, 2020, 03:51:50 PM

Yes, there is a very safe bet. Don't bet anything so you can't lose. 100% successful. That is the best bet.

Yep! One of the best ideas I've ever read about this topic. Who can lose in sports betting if you are not actually betting, am I right? There's another thing, you could predict who's winning and bet nothing on it. You might not win money but you called it. Grin

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Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

Personally I have not seen such cases, but I do not bet on sports as often as many other people on this forum. Many bookmaker's offices reserve the right to cancel the results of the match if there is evidence that the match was negotiated. I can look for similar rules in their terms of use.

If such cases are possible then how the bookmakers able to find out if the match is negotiated? I mean, how can they present a strong evidence before the match even ended? Through whistleblowers? Do they have spies in the management of each teams? I'm a little bit curious because this is new to me

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I don't know how bookmakers will know that the match was negotiated. Perhaps such information appears to the police or somewhere else. Maybe someone made a very big bet on the incredible outcome of the match. There are a lot of players in the contract matches, someone can talk to his wife, she will tell her friend and so the information went further.

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Quote from: KennyR on November 18, 2020, 06:47:52 PM

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Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

For the cancelled match who will be paid. There'll be gamblers placing bets over both the teams. This isn't possible, and in most cases the match gets rescheduled. Myself have won on games on which the player himself retires from the match on injury. By the time the opponent will be announced as the winner.

Yes, it's not possible for a match to get cancelled or bets to be cancelled when the match is over even if there are rumors that the game was a fix match.

@KennyR ...I think on your statement about a player retiring in the match, that is just normal, there's nothing doubtful on that which would make the bookies believe that the game is fixed.

Thing is, if we say fix match, it's not easy to prove it as insiders or those who fix the match will not allow themselves to get caught, hence the game will still look as a normal game but there's already a winner on it.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 18, 2020, 06:01:13 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

For the cancelled match who will be paid. There'll be gamblers placing bets over both the teams. This isn't possible, and in most cases the match gets rescheduled. Myself have won on games on which the player himself retires from the match on injury. By the time the opponent will be announced as the winner.

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Quote from: rijaljun on November 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

I agree, having a higher percentage of win is not really a guarantee for a sure win rather it's just some probability for the games. Sometimes those underdog teams can surprise them and manage to win the games. If the safe bets are safes, no one would gonna go for the risky one because they know the latter is sure to win. but as you can see, nothing has changed at all. that's because they knew safe bets is just some speculations.

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Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 06:10:03 PM

Quote from: Maslate on November 18, 2020, 06:01:13 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

Personally I have not seen such cases, but I do not bet on sports as often as many other people on this forum. Many bookmaker's offices reserve the right to cancel the results of the match if there is evidence that the match was negotiated. I can look for similar rules in their terms of use.

If such cases are possible then how the bookmakers able to find out if the match is negotiated? I mean, how can they present a strong evidence before the match even ended? Through whistleblowers? Do they have spies in the management of each teams? I'm a little bit curious because this is new to me

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Quote from: rijaljun on November 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

And the idea discussed above where the small percentage matters, I think it is fair to say that it extends beyond sports betting and I'd say this is a gambling consensus. So, no you can't really be safe when betting on anything when you don't have control about the outcome but merely taking a calculated guess.

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Quote from: Maslate on November 18, 2020, 06:01:13 PM

Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

Personally I have not seen such cases, but I do not bet on sports as often as many other people on this forum. Many bookmaker's offices reserve the right to cancel the results of the match if there is evidence that the match was negotiated. I can look for similar rules in their terms of use.

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Quote from: FontSeli on November 18, 2020, 05:10:09 PM

No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.

I don't think this is true, have you already seen a sports that was cancelled because bookies believe that the it's a negotiated match or a fix match?

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No sports betting is safe. The only exception is when you know about a negotiated match, but if the bookmaker finds out about it, he can cancel the match results.
Small odds are usually when one opponent in a match is much stronger than the other.
Remember the champions season 2015-2016 of the soccer FC "Leicester City" in the premier league, which before that almost flew out of the championship. Odds for matches against this team at the beginning were very small. And such examples can be cited many. You can win dozens of bets with odds of 1.15, and then in one loss you will lose everything you have earned before.

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Betting on odds like 1.3 it's a bad idea, you will need a lot of time to make a good profit... you can try betting at 1.7

1.5 - 1.7 would be the sweetest spot but i do still see some people who do even tend to bet on 1.1 - 1.2 odds which it isnt really worth for the risk to take

its up to someone though specially if the said player or team would really be having that ensured winning but we know that upsets can happen from time to time.

So theres no point on telling that there are really safe bets in sports betting yet this can only happen in our dreams. Cool

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Quote from: mirakal on November 16, 2020, 01:35:23 AM

Quote from: rijaljun on November 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

It's the same as betting in a luck based games, that's why i stay away with that high chances but low payout betting odds, it's just a waste of money and we just thought it's easy which is no challenge to us, if we really wanna test our skills, we should go with odds 1.90 above.

skill or sports and casino or luck based games are the same and thier max highest percent chance can be at 98 or 99 percent but it cant be on 100 percent because theres no way you can loose if that win chance exist .

theres no easy in gambling and dont under estimate the small odds that you see because those can be a trap to pocket your penny , playing gambling in any odds is already challenging if your goal is to rake up a good profit because winning is difficult

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Quote from: rijaljun on November 15, 2020, 03:01:52 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

It's the same as betting in a luck based games, that's why i stay away with that high chances but low payout betting odds, it's just a waste of money and we just thought it's easy which is no challenge to us, if we really wanna test our skills, we should go with odds 1.90 above.

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Quote from: Fredomago on November 15, 2020, 02:02:56 PM

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

I agree that small percentage matters, sometimes when you least expect that's the time that small percentage will come. Imagine betting maxed out at 98% win and still lose. Happened to me a couple of times.

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Quote from: qory on November 15, 2020, 01:37:22 PM

Quote from: ongkok87 on November 14, 2020, 05:55:05 AM

You can play it safe by only accepting free bets, sometimes you see them when a site just opens to let customers try their site. they are risk free.
in general you don't get such free bets otherwise.

This is true I never think about this. Some platforms really give free bets promotion whenever there are newly opened project no matter if you lose it's free so there's no risk there although in order to withdraw them you need to meet their wagering requirement.

Wagering requirements make it tough to bring something out even it's for free. Casino owner knows what they're doing they'll make sure that the free bets or credit won't be abused, either you are pro or you are lucky enough to cash out some free money once you already achieved the required wagers that you need.

Very few lucky gamblers who abled to get and win after accepting the offer. Back to the main topic, sure bets are not possible it won't be called gambling if it does exist. Even you place your chances 99.99% win that remaining .01 % can still bring shit to your picked.

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