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Quote from: molsewid on October 26, 2020, 12:10:09 PM

I also tried a low odds bet strategy after losing streak bets on higher odds. The result is not the same, but when you lose only 1 game, you need to bet higher to recover the losing bet. Right now, I'm not betting base on odds. I'll make sure that I analyze both teams and who has the advantage before betting.

There are no safe bets with lower odds or higher odds. There's a possibility to lose in any bet, so bet only the amount you can afford to lose.

Lower odds always seem promising and to a large extent assures bettors of a possibility of the game ending in a win for the big team but in reality, small odds are just as risky as the big odds. Especially when the leagues are at certain points like closure, when the team is at the top of the table and surely have lots of points ahead of other teams, have some other close by important or supposed difficult game to play especially within the international club categories, when the mid tier team has lost too much games, are within the relegation zone, when the both teams share a history and more of things like that. It makes a low odd expectancy match more difficult. One team can't keep on winning or losing.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 13, 2020, 05:13:22 AM

Are these bets as safe as they seem? Would you go for this strategy or not? Why?

I also tried a low odds bet strategy after losing streak bets on higher odds. The result is not the same, but when you lose only 1 game, you need to bet higher to recover the losing bet. Right now, I'm not betting base on odds. I'll make sure that I analyze both teams and who has the advantage before betting.

There are no safe bets with lower odds or higher odds. There's a possibility to lose in any bet, so bet only the amount you can afford to lose.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on September 13, 2020, 05:13:22 AM

Greetings! When I started betting on various events, I kept putting money on the options that were offering high payout but, naturally, weren't that likely to come true. I kept losing, so I decided to go for a radical change: betting only when the winner is pretty obvious and the payout is low but more or less secured. I won a few bets in a row like that, but my question is whether you'd consider it a good strategy for sports betting. I'm talking about bets for which the odds are 1.15 or something like that. Here're some bets I won like this:

Are these bets as safe as they seem? Would you go for this strategy or not? Why?

Yeah, I'd say they are as safe as they seem but again it's definitely not guaranteed and it's just a game of probability and because of that some of it is decided by pure luck, so at the end of the day no matter how much it is likely that a team wins a game there is still a possibility that the other team wins.

So for example if we say there is 90% chance that team A wins and 10% that team B wins based on the history of their previous matches against each other and you bet on the team A because of the better odds you can still get unlucky and bet on team B losing while it is one of those few matches that team B wins and you lose the bet, so still luck is an important factor no matter what and by betting on better winning odds you can only minimize the importance of luck and possibility of losing the bet but you can not remove them completely from equation.

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To my opinion there is no risk free gambling and sports betting isn't exception. Some knowledge and experience with sport you bet on might be helpful but there is no guarantee you will be loss free. If you want to gamble you also need to be willing to accept certain amount of risk, even if you bet on very small amounts.

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Quote from: South Park on October 24, 2020, 12:06:00 PM

Gambling by definition is an activity in which you are taking a risk in order to try to obtain a benefit and when thought about it in this way then it should be painfully obvious there is no such thing as a safe bet, even something like arbitrage is not completely safe as there are many instances in which you can still lose, for example casinos could have different rulings when it comes to certain aspects of the game, this is very common in tennis or horse racing, or the odds could change before you can place your bet and suddenly the arbitraging opportunity disappeared.

When it comes to Gambling we can always found by definition the word risky and theres no such thing as safe bet in gambling. Gambling was 50/50 probability of chance of losing and winning. Let's always keep in mind that we should only bet what we can afford to lose and of course always consider on how would you cope up when you lose in sports betting. Each sports betting has their own kind of risk like casinos and even team sports betting

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 24, 2020, 08:28:58 AM

No, sometimes bookmakers return bets made on a match with odds 1. This is the actual cancellation of accepted bets, this is a rare event, but it happens (usually when there is a suspicion of the fairness of the game). Plus, in some sports, a draw happens even when it's rare there, like in boxing.

Odds 1? I don't get it, I don't see that kind of odds because it's like betting without winning, and too risky on your part as you could lose your bet.

Can you enlighten me what you meant by that?

If the match is canceled or the bookmaker has good reason to believe that the match was unfair, he has the right to return all bets with odds 1 - i.e. cancel the bet. Read the rules of any bookmaker - it is written there.

Bookies all has the right to do that because it's their rule, but would they do that if not on their favor? just wondering as I've seen this kind of concern in the past but I didn't see a post where bookies cancelled the bets and return the money, even if users lose.

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Gambling by definition is an activity in which you are taking a risk in order to try to obtain a benefit and when thought about it in this way then it should be painfully obvious there is no such thing as a safe bet, even something like arbitrage is not completely safe as there are many instances in which you can still lose, for example casinos could have different rulings when it comes to certain aspects of the game, this is very common in tennis or horse racing, or the odds could change before you can place your bet and suddenly the arbitraging opportunity disappeared.

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Quote from: Botnake on October 24, 2020, 08:33:26 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 24, 2020, 08:28:58 AM

No, sometimes bookmakers return bets made on a match with odds 1. This is the actual cancellation of accepted bets, this is a rare event, but it happens (usually when there is a suspicion of the fairness of the game). Plus, in some sports, a draw happens even when it's rare there, like in boxing.

Odds 1? I don't get it, I don't see that kind of odds because it's like betting without winning, and too risky on your part as you could lose your bet.

Can you enlighten me what you meant by that?

If the match is canceled or the bookmaker has good reason to believe that the match was unfair, he has the right to return all bets with odds 1 - i.e. cancel the bet. Read the rules of any bookmaker - it is written there.

Quote from: palle11 on October 24, 2020, 09:44:08 AM

What about in football for example when a game is cancelled, postponed or put pending/shifted? How is the odd calculated for a player who is cashing out. I think the calculation is not favourable to the player in many cases.

Usually there is a return of the bet (or in other words, payment with odds 1). Better doesn't lose anything here. In this case, the bookmakers act honestly.

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No, sometimes bookmakers return bets made on a match with odds 1. This is the actual cancellation of accepted bets, this is a rare event, but it happens (usually when there is a suspicion of the fairness of the game). Plus, in some sports, a draw happens even when it's rare there, like in boxing.

What about in football for example when a game is cancelled, postponed or put pending/shifted? How is the odd calculated for a player who is cashing out. I think the calculation is not favourable to the player in many cases.

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Quote from: qomariah95 on October 23, 2020, 06:22:30 PM

In sports betting, everything is safe, only winning and losing. If you're using a strategy like @OP, then that's a strategy I use often too. Because in sports betting, of course anything can happen, and big teams can also lose. But choosing a big team has a greater chance, it's just that the payout is smaller.

No, sometimes bookmakers return bets made on a match with odds 1. This is the actual cancellation of accepted bets, this is a rare event, but it happens (usually when there is a suspicion of the fairness of the game). Plus, in some sports, a draw happens even when it's rare there, like in boxing.

Odds 1? I don't get it, I don't see that kind of odds because it's like betting without winning, and too risky on your part as you could lose your bet.

Can you enlighten me what you meant by that?

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Quote from: qomariah95 on October 23, 2020, 06:22:30 PM

In sports betting, everything is safe, only winning and losing. If you're using a strategy like @OP, then that's a strategy I use often too. Because in sports betting, of course anything can happen, and big teams can also lose. But choosing a big team has a greater chance, it's just that the payout is smaller.

No, sometimes bookmakers return bets made on a match with odds 1. This is the actual cancellation of accepted bets, this is a rare event, but it happens (usually when there is a suspicion of the fairness of the game). Plus, in some sports, a draw happens even when it's rare there, like in boxing.

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Quote from: ice098 on October 23, 2020, 10:29:39 AM

I dont think safe bets were suitable in a world of gambling or even in a world if sports betting. We can't tell what team were going to win because both team has their own respective strong player that they are confident to put on the game. Safe bets would only possible if and even if a game were fixed game, where you already know that the team that you,'re going to bet were going to win for sure, here you can assure that you will going to win.

Remind me of such situations in sports when you know exactly which team/player will win? Even in boxing, due to accidental strikes, topboxers sometimes lose to weaker opponents. The situation is similar in any sport.
In addition, if the result of the match is known in advance, the bookmaker simply will not accept bets on it.

Now, I remember again the fight between Lomanchenko and Lopez. The sportsbooks were favouring Loma and a lot were betting on him to be the winner. But it was Lopez who won inside the ring. So even if you have the notion about who will win, still you can't be 100% sure. So I really don't think there are safe bets in sports betting. Your chance of winning may be high if you very well know the sport but still you can't say you are 100% right about your bets.

You are absolutely right, there is no truly safe bets in sports betting. As you said almost all sportsbooks pick Lomachenko who will win the fight,
but the result surprised Lopez who managed to win. And that costs a lot of gamblers. It happens in all sports, not only in boxing. So that's what
makes gambling interesting, because there is no certainty that we will win, in gambling luck is important.

There are really no saafe bets in sports but if you really want to do sports gambling then you have to use the most recommended so that you can minimize the risk of your betting. If you still lose on the most recommended then you need to accept it because not all the time you will win in gambling because even if the ratio of losing is very low, there are still a chance. If you can have a perfect ratio of winning then you won't earn a lot. Risk taking is the best way to earn with gambling.

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Quote from: ice098 on October 23, 2020, 10:29:39 AM

I dont think safe bets were suitable in a world of gambling or even in a world if sports betting. We can't tell what team were going to win because both team has their own respective strong player that they are confident to put on the game. Safe bets would only possible if and even if a game were fixed game, where you already know that the team that you,'re going to bet were going to win for sure, here you can assure that you will going to win.

Remind me of such situations in sports when you know exactly which team/player will win? Even in boxing, due to accidental strikes, topboxers sometimes lose to weaker opponents. The situation is similar in any sport.
In addition, if the result of the match is known in advance, the bookmaker simply will not accept bets on it.

Now, I remember again the fight between Lomanchenko and Lopez. The sportsbooks were favouring Loma and a lot were betting on him to be the winner. But it was Lopez who won inside the ring. So even if you have the notion about who will win, still you can't be 100% sure. So I really don't think there are safe bets in sports betting. Your chance of winning may be high if you very well know the sport but still you can't say you are 100% right about your bets.

You are absolutely right, there is no truly safe bets in sports betting. As you said almost all sportsbooks pick Lomachenko who will win the fight,
but the result surprised Lopez who managed to win. And that costs a lot of gamblers. It happens in all sports, not only in boxing. So that's what
makes gambling interesting, because there is no certainty that we will win, in gambling luck is important.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on October 23, 2020, 05:54:04 PM

Quote from: coin.princess on October 14, 2020, 01:32:14 PM

No there's no such thing as safe bets once you placed a bet you already take it to risk. Even if you bet in a small amount and winning in long run you will still lose and you will take you longer to recover that losing bet and while trying to recover it by placing bets on lower odds there's still a chance that you will lose again. So the risk never stops in betting either sports betting or casino.

You're right but if you use some kind of arbitrages between sportsbooks you can find surebets. So it means that's possible to beat the bookmakers even on the long run.

Arbitrage also have risk, not for the bets itself but how the sports house treat this kind of strategy.

If the house suspects that you are dealing with this kind of strategy the chance that they will block you and you won't be able to get your money, though most of those gamblers who used this strategy also acknowledge the risk so finding good sites and keep being under the radar is also part of the research to conduct.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 23, 2020, 05:10:37 PM

Quote from: ice098 on October 23, 2020, 10:29:39 AM

I dont think safe bets were suitable in a world of gambling or even in a world if sports betting. We can't tell what team were going to win because both team has their own respective strong player that they are confident to put on the game. Safe bets would only possible if and even if a game were fixed game, where you already know that the team that you,'re going to bet were going to win for sure, here you can assure that you will going to win.

Remind me of such situations in sports when you know exactly which team/player will win? Even in boxing, due to accidental strikes, topboxers sometimes lose to weaker opponents. The situation is similar in any sport.
In addition, if the result of the match is known in advance, the bookmaker simply will not accept bets on it.

Now, I remember again the fight between Lomanchenko and Lopez. The sportsbooks were favouring Loma and a lot were betting on him to be the winner. But it was Lopez who won inside the ring. So even if you have the notion about who will win, still you can't be 100% sure. So I really don't think there are safe bets in sports betting. Your chance of winning may be high if you very well know the sport but still you can't say you are 100% right about your bets.

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Quote from: Saint-loup on October 23, 2020, 05:54:04 PM

Quote from: coin.princess on October 14, 2020, 01:32:14 PM

No there's no such thing as safe bets once you placed a bet you already take it to risk. Even if you bet in a small amount and winning in long run you will still lose and you will take you longer to recover that losing bet and while trying to recover it by placing bets on lower odds there's still a chance that you will lose again. So the risk never stops in betting either sports betting or casino.

You're right but if you use some kind of arbitrages between sportsbooks you can find surebets. So it means that's possible to beat the bookmakers even on the long run.

surebets are often with low odds since it's hard find a big difference between two bookmakers.
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In sports betting, everything is safe, only winning and losing. If you're using a strategy like @OP, then that's a strategy I use often too. Because in sports betting, of course anything can happen, and big teams can also lose. But choosing a big team has a greater chance, it's just that the payout is smaller.

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Quote from: coin.princess on October 14, 2020, 01:32:14 PM

No there's no such thing as safe bets once you placed a bet you already take it to risk. Even if you bet in a small amount and winning in long run you will still lose and you will take you longer to recover that losing bet and while trying to recover it by placing bets on lower odds there's still a chance that you will lose again. So the risk never stops in betting either sports betting or casino.

You're right but if you use some kind of arbitrages between sportsbooks you can find surebets. So it means that's possible to beat the bookmakers even on the long run.

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Quote from: ice098 on October 23, 2020, 10:29:39 AM

I dont think safe bets were suitable in a world of gambling or even in a world if sports betting. We can't tell what team were going to win because both team has their own respective strong player that they are confident to put on the game. Safe bets would only possible if and even if a game were fixed game, where you already know that the team that you,'re going to bet were going to win for sure, here you can assure that you will going to win.

Remind me of such situations in sports when you know exactly which team/player will win? Even in boxing, due to accidental strikes, topboxers sometimes lose to weaker opponents. The situation is similar in any sport.
In addition, if the result of the match is known in advance, the bookmaker simply will not accept bets on it.

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Quote from: jademaxsuy on October 21, 2020, 06:42:18 AM

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Any bettor with sufficient information and acting on it will have better chances of winning than bettors without sufficient information. This is basically what reduces the risk for the skilled/successful bettor. And it applies in many areas of our life. The most prepare or informed will do better than the unformed/less-prepared.

It is all about chances but not really like being safe,

In sports there are good team or player and that we could compare their playing capabilities. There are those times that we can say that a match has high chances for this team or player to win. So, it safe to bet with them. However, there is a chance that bet will going to lose and that will make you surprises like you will going to lose in the bet and that will dissapoint you.

I dont think safe bets were suitable in a world of gambling or even in a world if sports betting. We can't tell what team were going to win because both team has their own respective strong player that they are confident to put on the game. Safe bets would only possible if and even if a game were fixed game, where you already know that the team that you,'re going to bet were going to win for sure, here you can assure that you will going to win.

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