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No lol. Otherwise why do you think that most of us are still on this forum anyways? If I was a millionaire i would be enjoying the high life and taking vacations whenever I can and not bother to check back on this forum every once in a while... Sigh.

You can't assume that people just held through all these years. I've been using bitcoin since 2010 and i'm still a pretty broke bloke. The worst thing i did with my savings was to buy in at 2013 near the ATH only to sell it at $200 apiece a year later. Absolute stupidity if you ask anyone right now. But things looked grim back then, bitcoin was still in its early stages and didn't have many believers. If i held these coins i still would have doubled my money which is crazy if you ask me.

This is why it is a minority of people from 2013 that are millionaires, most people sell off long before having a net worth that high. You can call it short sighted but why would you risk tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars if you can take it out risk free.
legendary
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I am from late 2013 and about 40k USD in debt!   Grin

Well late 2013 are extremely bad timing. You should wait 2 more years to buy cheap.  We that joined at wrong timing will need 2 more bubbles to have a million Tongue
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Been involved in bitcoin since 2011. Cashed in too soon. When it hit $20 I thought it was too good to be true and sold all of the several hundred I had mined to that point.

After that I didn't pay attention to bitcoin or altcoins for several years. Finally last year started getting interested again and bought some Dash at around $3/coin. Made the same mistake as before - sold when it hit $16.

Investing in several more coins this time and won't make the same mistake again - holding until I get at least enough to pay off my house and all other debts.



Oh you seem to have a good gut feeling for picking coins up at the right time - so what do you invest in now? Tongue

Since it's the weekend, probably beer  Grin
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I got into crypto in early 2014 and i am not a millionaire. However i have come pretty close. Lets just say the value of my crypto holdings is greater than 500K. I invested less than $5,000 so i think i have done pretty well. The only reason i am not a millionaire now is that i did not have more capital to invest back in those days.

I remember in 2013 people were making posts like these claiming that everyone who invested in 2009/2010 was a millionaire. The reality cannot be further from the truth as it takes a whole lot of extraordinary circumstances to work in your favour even in you invest in the right crypto at the right time. There was a guy in 2010 who spent 10,000 BTC to buy 2 pizzas, others spent their coins on gambling sites. Even satoshi was handing out BTC left, right and centre back then.

Things we predict aometimes can happen or not, its just that bitcoin were really in demand as technology really adopts by many and does it good to know that there are really good proofs that btc is really working.
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I got into crypto in early 2014 and i am not a millionaire. However i have come pretty close. Lets just say the value of my crypto holdings is greater than 500K. I invested less than $5,000 so i think i have done pretty well. The only reason i am not a millionaire now is that i did not have more capital to invest back in those days.

I remember in 2013 people were making posts like these claiming that everyone who invested in 2009/2010 was a millionaire. The reality cannot be further from the truth as it takes a whole lot of extraordinary circumstances to work in your favour even in you invest in the right crypto at the right time. There was a guy in 2010 who spent 10,000 BTC to buy 2 pizzas, others spent their coins on gambling sites. Even satoshi was handing out BTC left, right and centre back then.
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No lol. Otherwise why do you think that most of us are still on this forum anyways? If I was a millionaire i would be enjoying the high life and taking vacations whenever I can and not bother to check back on this forum every once in a while... Sigh.

You can't assume that people just held through all these years. I've been using bitcoin since 2010 and i'm still a pretty broke bloke. The worst thing i did with my savings was to buy in at 2013 near the ATH only to sell it at $200 apiece a year later. Absolute stupidity if you ask anyone right now. But things looked grim back then, bitcoin was still in its early stages and didn't have many believers. If i held these coins i still would have doubled my money which is crazy if you ask me.
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you know, someone regard coin invest as a sideline,but sometime they are busy for the realistic things
I believed a lots of guys miss the opportunity like me! Cry Cry
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If there are those millionaires, they are sitting on their own island drinking cocktails and not here to answer.

if you arent a miner then  its a zero sum game. someones gain is someone elses loss. i think the quote is the best answer so far. interesting responses here though, i had assumed the same too that there were lots of millionaires but clearly human emotion impacts even the best hodler.
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Who is here from 2013 who is not a USD millionaire at least on paper?

I bet noone here from 2011 is not a millionaire.

If so what were your big mistakes that prevented this from being the case?

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don't take from this post that I myself claim to have attained that millionaire status .... but then my early trading was an example of how not to trade. Im guessing the majority has done far better.


let us not let this thread turn into a sour grapes situation....but it is nice to know many average everyday people have now made life changing amounts of fiat due to crypto. I feel millionaire status is within grasp of so many that are here even recently.

let them enjoy their success and inspire us all..
If they made it by buying fairly on the market or mining fairly then it is great to know that so many have done so well.



Yeah , here I am the one who didn't yet became millionaire and working hardwork in the Bitcoin field from 2013 .
Since I started my job with the Bitcoin in the year 2013 but my serious investment in this field was started in the mid of the year 2015 after the scam.of the hashocean.com ( cloudmining site ) .
And after that I started my trading and made the investment in the Bitcoin and from.that day I am making a small amount of the money with the Bitcoin ( which is sufficient for the my life to live easily ) but still I didn't get that amount of money which can make me millionaire .
All over here is only my mistake , I was able to do something much more better then what I am doing because I lost much money in the dead coins and in hyip sites and gambling also .
Well here I have 1 btc currently in my wallet and now thinking that I will become millionaire atleast in the year 2020 ( according to the price prediction of the Bitcoin ) .
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I'm not. Sad

I heard about it in v0.3, from the first Bitcoin announcement on Slashdot.
I would have been buying $100 worth of BTC a month, before the first spike.

Unfortunately, I only had access to Paypal.
No one here trusts that, and nobody selling bitcoin lived near me at the time.

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crypto millionaire? then for sure there are some specially on earlier years not only on bitcoin but also on other cryptos and if theres one who would speak here then its a good thing to know his past experiences and perspective on cryptoworld. being a millionaire is once in a life time case which do most people do wish of to happen on their lives but we should not forget there are past mistakes of traders which is the reason that not make them as a millionaire.
Seems like the only mistake they make is selling too early

Holding indefinitely = millionaire?

If you were an early adopter holding for a very long time could make you millionaire but the problem is that is not the strategy of most users, most users like the thrill of trading and trying to outsmart the market, if you are able then cool but for most people that is simply not possible and they deceive themselves thinking they will be able to do it.
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crypto millionaire? then for sure there are some specially on earlier years not only on bitcoin but also on other cryptos and if theres one who would speak here then its a good thing to know his past experiences and perspective on cryptoworld. being a millionaire is once in a life time case which do most people do wish of to happen on their lives but we should not forget there are past mistakes of traders which is the reason that not make them as a millionaire.
Seems like the only mistake they make is selling too early

Holding indefinitely = millionaire?
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Holding can be fine but trying to do trading and investing can make more income.
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You can be a millionaire if you hold it for long. VERY LONG.
CAN YOU SLEEP IF YOU HAVE $100.000 in bitcoins?

If you have $10.000 on your BTC wallet, many people withdrawal their money.. Don't you?

1 year later you have $200.000 in your BTC wallet?
- still not a millionaire but do you hold your wallet or withdrawal?

You don't know the value tomorrow..
maybe 2 months laters you have just $50.000 or one million. So you can lose $150.000.. You don't know!
many people withdrawal their money before being a millionaire.




ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I have grown soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking tired of explaining basic math to idiots in crypto.

ooooooooooover & ooooooooooooooover & ooooooooooooooooooooooooover

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeear after yeaeeeeeeer

Guess what Investards ?


TIME IS MONEY


For the love of fucking all that is fucking holy let me get this through your thick ass fucking skulls once & for all.

YOU.
Are.
ALL.
Stupid.

I am the *ONLY* smart one here ..so listen the fuck up.

When you invest in something and you do not get a return ?
The more time passes the more of a loss you are incurring.

A simple way to look at it is you *could* have invested in something else during the waiting period and thus the lagging time consuming investment is actually incurring loss.

So sitting on a shitcoin for 4 years waiting is retarded faggotry when you could have simply sat on BTC and tripled your money for example.
Of course there is idiots who sat on Dash for 4 years then BINGO struck it rich.. but it was 100% pure dumb luck by accident.

You all should be very embarrassed because i am not educated and have no previous trading experience and am not very smart at all.
I am basically a school drop out with no money and you dipshit retard "INVESTORS" out there make me look like Albert fucking god damn Einstein with your unbelievably fucking EPIC stupidity.

..most of you are broke already you just don't know it yet.


Almost every altcoin in the top 100 has outperformed BTC since 2013.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
You can be a millionaire if you hold it for long. VERY LONG.
CAN YOU SLEEP IF YOU HAVE $100.000 in bitcoins?

If you have $10.000 on your BTC wallet, many people withdrawal their money.. Don't you?

1 year later you have $200.000 in your BTC wallet?
- still not a millionaire but do you hold your wallet or withdrawal?

You don't know the value tomorrow..
maybe 2 months laters you have just $50.000 or one million. So you can lose $150.000.. You don't know!
many people withdrawal their money before being a millionaire.




ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I have grown soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking tired of explaining basic math to idiots in crypto.

ooooooooooover & ooooooooooooooover & ooooooooooooooooooooooooover

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeear after yeaeeeeeeer

Guess what Investards ?


TIME IS MONEY


For the love of fucking all that is fucking holy let me get this through your thick ass fucking skulls once & for all.

YOU.
Are.
ALL.
Stupid.

I am the *ONLY* smart one here ..so listen the fuck up.

When you invest in something and you do not get a return ?
The more time passes the more of a loss you are incurring.

A simple way to look at it is you *could* have invested in something else during the waiting period and thus the lagging time consuming investment is actually incurring loss.

So sitting on a shitcoin for 4 years waiting is retarded faggotry when you could have simply sat on BTC and tripled your money for example.
Of course there is idiots who sat on Dash for 4 years then BINGO struck it rich.. but it was 100% pure dumb luck by accident.

You all should be very embarrassed because i am not educated and have no previous trading experience and am not very smart at all.
I am basically a school drop out with no money and you dipshit retard "INVESTORS" out there make me look like Albert fucking god damn Einstein with your unbelievably fucking EPIC stupidity.

..most of you are broke already you just don't know it yet.
sr. member
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The common denominator in many of these stories is that we need to buy and hold if possible to do so. I met someone a few weeks back that purchased 6,000 shares of ETH at 30 cents so he invested about $1800. Unfortunately he needed to sell the shares when ETH was around $10 early in 2017 to raise the funds to purchase a condo. If he had still been holding these shares they would be worth about $1.5M at current prices, which is clearly life changing capital. That was a painful sale and will not be forgotten what could have been if he had only held on! It isn't always possible due to layoffs, illness, paying for weddings. Life just has habit of throwing expenses at you.

I am trying my best not to sell 20 bagger positions like which Verge comes to mind in case they continue to run, but the temptation is very strong to sell with any huge gain since those 10 to 20 baggers are so rare with stock market investing.






hero member
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I think there are lots of people who got into crypto currency at 2013 that are still not a millionaires,
Why because they needed the cash so they would convert their coin and also we all know that back then we don't even think that bitcoin would be this high.
legendary
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I think most people here are just bitcoiners, and the rest are scalpers and daytraders. At this moment you can only be a millionaire if you just hold good altcoins projects, there is no other way

Holding is definately the strategy to go for..

Hodling makes millions, trading makes thousands.

Which is the one you pick? Tongue
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If there are those millionaires, they are sitting on their own island drinking cocktails and not here to answer.
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I think most people here are just bitcoiners, and the rest are scalpers and daytraders. At this moment you can only be a millionaire if you just hold good altcoins projects, there is no other way
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Uhh...I've been here since 2011 and I can pretty solidly say that I am not a millionaire.  I'm not destitute since I have a pretty good job outside of this, but I'm not a millionaire and that's despite having a pretty good income from my regular job. I told myself I'd buy more bitcoin when I got a high paying job but when it actually happened the price of bitcoin was tanking (down to about $200) and I got too scared to actually go through with my plan to buy $3000 of bitcoin a month.

The rest is just a combination of having actually spent almost all of my bitcoin when it was worth about $8-100, and having invested bitcoins in mining hardware instead of just holding onto the coins-by the time I got the mining hardware it was impossible to mine back the coins spent.

I was also a very broke med student in the early days so I had no money to invest anything and basically could only buy new hardware by selling the coins off.

But that said I recently finally bought the second crypto I've ever purchased, which was a little bit of Qtum during the ICO and at least on paper it's had a pretty great run.  We'll see what it's worth in a year or two, probably all dependent on if this altcoin bubble pops or not.  

But man oh man, so many threads I've been in on here where I came SO, SO close to buying in.  The original NXT thread I got scared off by all the posters saying it was a scam.  Ethereum I got busy during medical residency and forgot about the ICO until it was over then I didn't feel like paying 50 cents each lol.  NEM I read the thread too early when it was still an NXT clone and didn't end up finding out about the new structure until recently.  Many times I've failed at becoming a millionaire.

But I can't complain too much, I've made a lot more than I would have if I had never invested in Bitcoin, and I did cover my medical school loans in the end with how much it's gone up. =)  And who knows, if this crazy market keeps up maybe in a year I'll be a millionaire hahaha.

Your case sums it up pretty much. I've been around bitcoin since the incredible pump in 2013 but in my opinion this scene is full of 'could've, would've and should've. There are so many cases where I though damn that's an interesting project but then one way or the other you fail to sit out the ride.

Bought in to NEM but took a sabbatical after bitcoin tanked in value during the same period and thus missed the chance to claim my stake. Saw the ether announcement and was really excited but missed that one as well due to the same break.

I think the majority of people that actually became rich are those that bought in to something (bitcoin or alts, doesn't matter) and just forgot about it for a year only to come back and see they're suddenly worth 500k. Then there's a group of people that became rich by chain-releasing new coins off.

Anyway, not complaining, made a fair share of money and it's still an exciting ride.

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