Topic: Are there real sports bet groups - page 13. (Read 3083 times)

That's because beginners don't really understand how to do analysis to be able to make the right predictions and some really only bet based on the existing Odds because most teams or players who are favored to win have lower Odds but actually Odds cannot guarantee the outcome of the bet because in all in the match there were many surprising things that made our bets lose.
After all, most paid betting prediction groups provide enough fake proof of winning from their predictions which makes many novice bettors curious and interested in paying for the predictions given by this group.

Defeat or loss of some money is experienced by anyone, not just beginners, and if beginners want to learn from mistakes or defeats, then gradually they can have enough experience to make analysis and predictions.

The way some of this groups present the idea to their victims, its sometimes not plainly stupid for the victims to believe them, but then, believing or not believing all depends on how greedy or not, the victim is..
Like I've had an experience where the guy told me that most games are fixed, that is, there are some games where the organizers have arranged who will win, even before the day the match is to be played, and the guy went on to tell me that he got insiders who feed him with such information, and he is not selling the information to other gamblers so he could raise enough money to pay the insiders for the next information, and he also went on to tell me that he is giving me a guarantee in all the games hes going to give me, that if i lose any, he will refund me the money I used to play it..

That was really convincing and anyone could have believed such, i actually while being careful believe him and wanted to give the whole thing a try, but what later changed my mind is that, he said first, I will pay $200 to subscribe for the service for one year (365 days), and secondly, I will pay him 50 percent of all my winnings, and that the minimum amount of money to bet on every game he gives to me is $1000, i plainly told him that first, paying $200 for subscription is not really a problem, but paying him 50% of all my winnings is rather him being too greedy, and I also told him that betting $1000 on every game he gives me even at this beginning stage is too risky, I told him I don't trust him just yet to risk such amount, but he was all over me sounding like he's the only one wanting to do me a favor, i simply stopped replying to his messages .

So sometimes, somehow, this guys appear to be so legit, and like i said before, believing or not believing depends on the gamblers level of greed and desperation.

The problem is newbies will keep joining their platform, and they will keep making money from them. One or two bets could be right if a newbie predicts it. If I place ten bets, I will win some of them. If people see the odds, it's understandable that the low-odds team might win the match. That's why the team got low odds.

I believe every newbie will understand at some point. But they will lose the money already, and some other newbie will pay them for the same reason. This is why Ponzi schemes still work despite thousands of scam reports.

Another way of easy making money, trying to pretend that they are the one who are making the analysis but the truth is they are just buying subscriptions and make a good use of those shared predictions, if the pick wins then they will earn and with a good amount of winning picks or most of the time they will advertise more with the winning side and hide those fail bets, it's unavoidable that it will happen as there are many gamblers who will try to seek some edge to the point that they will resort it to a paying subscriptions and check for some luck that they will be paying for a profitable outcome, but still no assurance.


If there's for sure those who are involve will not just sell that information and got wreck, what I mean, if there's a group who are involved with game fixing, those people behind will secretly enjoy that and will be selfish to own that win, that's reality. Especially if in terms of anything that related to money, people are too greedy and will do everything to make sure that they will surely secure their winning chance.

I think it's desperate people that are so unfortunate or unlucky to be able to gain financial stability and has taken gambling as the only alternative where they could make quick money that would there's a group or person that gives 100% sure bets I mean is that even possible, people should know most of those punters that are successful from gambling have put in effort to master a certain skill or strategies that enables them to suffer less losses, there's no proven strategies yet that guarantees 100% success in gambling if it's possible making platforms would have gone bankrupt because of numerous huge winnings from bettors, even the punters too suffers losses but what makes them different is that they're high stakers and they stake of low odds that's got better chances of winning and even with their good strategies sometimes it takes luck for them to win a bet and when they do they win massively because their high stake makes it possible for one or two wins to cover up their losses, if you wan to benefit mostly from those group you need to be okay financially and be able to stake high as them so as to have good chances of winning more from the betting platforms but note that a 100% success is never guaranteed.

It's actually pretty stupid how someone would feel that some group out there in the internet will actually provide an 100 %  sure odds tag to deliver them victory because I for one certainly know that they is no such channel and the crazy part is that you actually gat to pay for such service. I was personal invited to one of these groups and I instantly blocked it because I am very certain that all these groups operate same way we do because no one actually habor any hidden secrets to a match before it's kicks off.

Alright ... We are saying the same thing friend and like they say, there is no free meal in freetown. Those call groups may be those who have fallen off from gambling and design such for business where they are calling out gullible minds to patronize them. Like you said . If they know games that will be correct prediction then they of course should hit the jackpot but no, they prefer selling out, because they aren't sure of course.

Haha
I remember those days when beggars where all over the internet selling "how to become a millionaire" eBooks whereas they themselves are struggling to feed, and some times, in a chat, i do ask some of them, " why you yourself aren't a millionaire yet, because i know that if you are a millionaire, you wont be here trying to convince me to buy an eBook  from you.."

Well, its just what it is, Scammers are operating in different levels and with different strategies, there are lots of them in gambling, most especially in sports betting, since we have a lot of gamblers who are looking for sure games, where they are guaranteed a win without losing, many fall victims to all this fake groups and channels claiming to offer sure bets to subscribers.

yes and no, the groups that require you to pay may have done research or may not have done anything at all, and the second one is more likely than the first. If their research is so good and they can systematically beat the system, my first question is why would they share the method with other people? See, it is the old promise of a beggar selling you a method to "be rich".

It's always based on the outcome. If you are a gambler and subscribe to a group, you will only stick with them if you are getting profitable results. If not, you will look for another group to join. So, it's not something that we allow ourselves to be fooled by admins who promise that the picks will win because, as I mentioned, it's based on the outcome. It's easy if we just follow certain tipsters, and it's okay to pay as long as the tipsters provide winning bets.

However, as bettors, we have to understand that we don't win all the time; winning most of the time is okay, and strict bankroll management is implemented. Personally, if I'm more serious about gambling, I would just stick with my own ability. At least I can develop it in the long run.

There are also paid groups that join other paid groups and admit to the people who join their groups that it is the result of the analysis they did. They do not admit that it is the result of copying from other paid groups because it can lower their reputation. Also, they want more people to join their group so that those who join can pay for their subscriptions. We must be more careful with that group because they have no analysis skills but only take results from other paid groups. Meanwhile, they also implement a payment system for people who want to get signals from them even though they also get signals from other groups.

You're right mate, there's no accuracy in any form given by this betting groups that guarantee a hundred percent victory on any match, what i just see that is unique about those groups was that they are well coordinated by the admins and they don't play as well with the moderation, paid groups will work out the best for you but on an average level, but they won't let you know what they are giving is by chance and no guarantee, some gamblers may depend on using them because they want an avenue that gives them increased chance of winning.

The difference between paid groups and those patronizing them is that research and analysis which they have devoted their time on to do because they want to sell it out. It is laziness on the part of most bettors that make to to use such means otherwise if they put in time for more research analysis, it is the same result they will get and that is the result of winning some and losing some. No betting apps or telegram betting group gives an accurate result of 100% back to back, because it is not possible.

Unfortunately, newbies don't understand that, and people who run paid signal groups are mostly targeting newbies because they know new users wouldn't have enough knowledge and understanding to know that what we are charging them for can be done by themselves with a little effort and that is the reason why they never share any analysis and stuff but only provide signals and tips so that people stick with them and don't stop paying them.

Even if a few of their signals turn out to be right, it doesn't mean that they are the ultimate experts in the sports betting industry. The research and analysis that they maybe do, can be done by an individual as well if they have an interest in a specific sport that they are willing to bet on.

On general sense or idea then it would really be on that way on which there's no one on their right minds on showing or sharing up their ways or methods on having that better winning rate into the public if ever it is
really that existing on which it would really be just that normal that they would really be spoiling out for themselves in speaking about those methods and ways on which it would really be that impossible.
No one on their right minds would really be telling their ways and methods if it does exist on the first place but having those realistic approach then we know that there's no such thing in existence specially on gambling field where everything is random. No matter how professional you would be, there's no way that you could be able to have that holy grail on making continuous winning or having that kind of profitable way of betting.
Groups created and making out such claims that they do have that best sports analysis and picks then its better to avoid them out specially to those who do really ask out for upfront payment
then it would really be just that a waste of money if you would really be tending to believe on them.

I have thought about that too, there is no one who wants to share how they make their fortune, if they win, they continue to win alone without telling anyone, but then I remember that there are people who like that others also win and that they are winners , philanthropists exist, and if they help through signs, well, it is something that I would take advantage of, but that it is free, if it is free, then I dare to think that things can go well for them to win.

The ones with groups of mushrooms, signs of predictions, have they won? Or do they keep trying all the time and out of 10 predictions they hit 1? or 2? That's what you should also know to see if it's worth it or not, that's why I don't dare to pay.

And someone that has the knowledge to pick the winners more often than what chance will allow it will not bother selling signals either, as this is simply too much effort when they could simply use their knowledge to beat the casinos and make money this way, so like always anyone that finds those groups should probably stay away from them as they will lose money by paying for the fees and they will still fail to make any money with the bets they make.

It is obvious that no one can be certain about the result of something that will occur in the future, it's just that people do research and analyze and evaluate all the outcomes, stats, figures, and every other thing that might have an influence on the upcoming result, and those who create these groups claim that they are experts in doing this and that is why they ask members to pay money so that they let them know about their bets and newbies usually fall for this.

A person who has knowledge and experience about a certain sport and knows they can analyze the teams and players that are about to have a match and evaluate the possible outcome based on that, should never pay anyone for getting signals or tips about these matches and should do it themselves.

Everything which is free and you could really get something  from it would really be always that good and its true that as long it would be giving out some additional information then you could really make use this as your advantage and as long you arent paying up some penny on acquiring these things then consider out to be advantageous. When it comes to sportsbetting then information could really be researched out freely without joining a group but to fasten out things rather than on spending too much effort then it isnt really that a bad idea on joining up these groups for this kind of approach towards your sports betting analysis and information seeking or gathering. Just like on what others been saying that it is really that never been worth on paying up something just for some sports pick recommendation because you could eventually make out those kind of analysis on your own specially on stat comparison and those latest news and updates in regarding on what those teams or players been doing or what those current happenings or whatsoever
correlate into it.

I also think the same, a player or a bettor who wants to offer his predictions is not bad, but the fact that he charges for a subscription seems to me something very exaggerated, I would not want to pay a subscription and then stay like a fool waiting to win, in this type of groups those who give the predictions win and lose, sometimes the predictions are not so good and what is done is to lose more than necessary, that is something that is not good, there will always be things that we need to know and the analyzes that they do do not say or show them, much less support them with statistics, that is something that is not Reliable for me.