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July 25, 2023, 06:46:05 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
It's really weird and funny when you put it that way, l mean you hold the keys to making much money and you now decide to sell it for a very common where as you could make millions yourself with same service you are actually rendering. Well this is the major reason I don't like following all those crazy posers that tend to feel that they can provide someone with a specific odds that is guaranteed 90% of winning.

there's no guaranteed winning when it comes to gambling. most of these bettors who are offering services with very high chance of winning are fake. you are right, if they can earn such money, why ask other people to avail their services?

The chance of the house winning the game which is 99% is one of the reasons why gamblers ought to know the offer is shady but those that are greedy never bother.

Yes, buddy. It is easy to understand no one will have such an opportunity and decide to share or sell it when she can make huge money out of it but greedy people are blind to the fact that the people that offer to sell a certain game strategy are just a liar.
Nevertheless, you're wrong when you said they provide a form of refund.
Uhmmmm I don't really take them to be liars when  they are trying to sell this game to you. It could be there one chance to getting some of their money back, not having to be the only ones to have funded the process that lead to the prediction and more.
When it happens that they get to bring you a prediction and requires you to bet it on the terms of a 50:50 share on profit or
Instances where one don't get to bet the game they are offering you
That's got yo be some huge scam for a prediction.
It's a typical trier and error situation and your better off making your own predictions with what ever statistics you've got.

Should you hope to get predictions from sites and groups, be sure to meet some really false predictions and do your own scrutiny as well on them predictions.
In this type of situation, the best thing is that the gambler has the needed knowledge, and always trusts her instinct because of gaming can be hard to predict at some point.
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July 25, 2023, 05:37:37 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
It's really weird and funny when you put it that way, l mean you hold the keys to making much money and you now decide to sell it for a very common where as you could make millions yourself with same service you are actually rendering. Well this is the major reason I don't like following all those crazy posers that tend to feel that they can provide someone with a specific odds that is guaranteed 90% of winning.

there's no guaranteed winning when it comes to gambling. most of these bettors who are offering services with very high chance of winning are fake. you are right, if they can earn such money, why ask other people to avail their services?

Some would really be even trying out to give their first random pick and claiming that it was a precise prediction and some do even called it to be fixed and when it hits then lots of people or noobs would really be

believing with those claims and trying out to follow them until the end of the line until they would really be making out realizations that its not really that something worth on doing so.
This is why its never been that recommendable on joining up with these groups or following these individuals because its never been that proved out that they are providing good picks.
Somehow its not really that bad on making yourself that trying out to snip out some ideas or analysis with these picks though on which you could really be able to apply into your
analysis too.
For overall non regret type of experience on sports betting then it would really be that always recommended that making your own bets out of your own analysis would be always that suggested.
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July 25, 2023, 04:52:24 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
It's really weird and funny when you put it that way, l mean you hold the keys to making much money and you now decide to sell it for a very common where as you could make millions yourself with same service you are actually rendering. Well this is the major reason I don't like following all those crazy posers that tend to feel that they can provide someone with a specific odds that is guaranteed 90% of winning.

there's no guaranteed winning when it comes to gambling. most of these bettors who are offering services with very high chance of winning are fake. you are right, if they can earn such money, why ask other people to avail their services?

i would rather read some of the gambling discussion threads here when it comes to predictions. a lot of members here are actually good in dissecting some sports. and you will learn a lot of info that you've never look at those angles.
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July 25, 2023, 04:47:25 PM
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Yes, it is okay to join paid groups about gambling and it will depend on the individual. If they still want to join and pay the subscription fee, that's also okay because they will already have their own considerations. I also know that some of my friends have joined the trading group but I don't know how good the group is and whether they can make a profit or loss using trading signals from the paid group.

And if they want to join those paid groups, they really have to be able to find the right group because, with so many paid groups out there especially those on Telegram, they can become targets for scams by irresponsible people. If that's the case, they can only regret it without being able to ask for their money back because the paid group will refuse it.

In accordance with the title of the theme of this thread, if you, I, we are interested in sports betting, and we are interested in joining groups that study sports, especially those that are paid. the first thing we do is dig up all the information regarding the group or channel, whether it can be trusted or not. why is that, as you said and we agree that it is very common with things that lead to fraud. who in the end, just take advantage of our stupidity to spend some money to pay them. as we know, there are many groups or channels that offer tips services in terms of sports betting, especially on the telegram channel.

To be honest, I'm not interested in that kind of stuff. I also don't want to say that all of them are scams, maybe there are some of those groups that really share sports betting tips or tips, even groups that are free without paying. but if I may suggest, to anyone in the community. Instead, to prevent something we don't want, it's best to ignore it.
However, there is a tip I can recommend instead. we can look for groups, or channels that discuss sports, especially those that are private, like courses. the point is, what we aim for is not the gambling, but the knowledge of the sport. thus, we will get to know more about sports. indirectly, we will understand how the sport itself works and how when we are going to do a betting session. with the knowledge and insights we have gained, we don't need to look for groups that predict bets, let alone paid ones.
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July 25, 2023, 04:44:10 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
It's really weird and funny when you put it that way, l mean you hold the keys to making much money and you now decide to sell it for a very common where as you could make millions yourself with same service you are actually rendering. Well this is the major reason I don't like following all those crazy posers that tend to feel that they can provide someone with a specific odds that is guaranteed 90% of winning.
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July 25, 2023, 09:52:00 AM
In all honesty, the sports betting signals industry is a hyperbolic version of the "those who can't do, teach" scenario. Just like all those "millionaires" who drive for Uber yet post pictures of their flashy cars on Instagram.

Do the maths. Why waste time trying to sell your betting advise if you're already the best at what you do, as purportedly is the case with the "experts"? Why aren't they on Forbes' list of billionaires if they are doubling their money by betting on themselves and selling signals? Not quite adding up, is it?

The lack of openness is the most problematic aspect. Signal providers prey on inexperienced gamblers because they are easy targets. They profit regardless of whether the newcomers win or lose. It's rather shady if you ask me. If you see a "betting expert" in the future, you should be wary. Don't be a fool; use healthy scepticism.
I totally agree with that, it's like those YouTubers uploading videos like "How to get 100K views in a day" while having 100 views on their own videos that are a month old which proves that they might be directing you towards something but it doesn't mean that it is a guaranteed way towards success because if it was, they would apply it themselves and they wouldn't need to do anything else, so it is your own responsibility to evaluate everything and then take your decision.

And you are also right that these so-called experts usually target newbies because they know that these are the most vulnerable creatures in the industry and they are also very much desperate for earning money through gambling, so they get them with their marketing techniques and charge them money for the signals they provide regardless of the fact whether they are going to win or lose.
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July 24, 2023, 06:58:48 PM
Yes, buddy. It is easy to understand no one will have such an opportunity and decide to share or sell it when she can make huge money out of it but greedy people are blind to the fact that the people that offer to sell a certain game strategy are just a liar.
Nevertheless, you're wrong when you said they provide a form of refund.
Uhmmmm I don't really take them to be liars when  they are trying to sell this game to you. It could be there one chance to getting some of their money back, not having to be the only ones to have funded the process that lead to the prediction and more.
When it happens that they get to bring you a prediction and requires you to bet it on the terms of a 50:50 share on profit or
Instances where one don't get to bet the game they are offering you
That's got yo be some huge scam for a prediction.
It's a typical trier and error situation and your better off making your own predictions with what ever statistics you've got.

Should you hope to get predictions from sites and groups, be sure to meet some really false predictions and do your own scrutiny as well on them predictions.
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July 24, 2023, 05:54:35 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

If this question is asked then the answer comes easily. Because if someone knows who is going to win, why would he try to tell others, he will increase his bet amount himself and get a chance to earn a lot of money. I think one should not join any such group. Gambling win or lose mostly depends on luck no one can say who will win. A gambler who relies on this strategy he certainly loss his money. So, bettors should avoid such groups. So that they are not deceived.

I think that if a group for bettors is created specifically for users to socialize and interact among them then it would be okey to join a group like that, where the sport tips are not the central reason someone would join. It would be similar to the chats one could find within casinos like Stake, where people just like to hang out and joke around.

Though, if a group sell itself as a tip group with people who ask for economical retribution for tiers to have access to tips, then it is likely a scam. It is better just to use a little bit of money to build one's betting experience oneself and not to depend on anyone.
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July 24, 2023, 04:12:20 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.

If you really have that or if you really possess that capabilities for sure you will keep it for yourself and take advantage of it, you will not share it as you know that it can be exploited, following your statement, if it's for sure that your analytical capabilities have a higher percentage to predict the outcome of the which possibly you make yourself a millionaire, it's not logical to sell it and share it to someone,

all those available channels are just base on a so-called expert but the assurance is not possible they can claimed but for sure it can't be accurate as the chance of losing still present and they can only refund you with the subscription most of the time, but the amount that you lose there's nothing on it, that's going to the bookies to enjoy.
Yes, buddy. It is easy to understand no one will have such an opportunity and decide to share or sell it when she can make huge money out of it but greedy people are blind to the fact that the people that offer to sell a certain game strategy are just a liar.
Nevertheless, you're wrong when you said they provide a form of refund.
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July 24, 2023, 08:50:42 AM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

If this question is asked then the answer comes easily. Because if someone knows who is going to win, why would he try to tell others, he will increase his bet amount himself and get a chance to earn a lot of money. I think one should not join any such group. Gambling win or lose mostly depends on luck no one can say who will win. A gambler who relies on this strategy he certainly loss his money. So, bettors should avoid such groups. So that they are not deceived.
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July 24, 2023, 06:45:02 AM
And as we know - the casino is the business, so they`d change odds or even close sport betting if it isn`t profitable.

If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
I think that there are some gamblers that get fun from the process of betting and there are some gamblers who think that that the gambling is good enough to become the major income. As for me, the first gamblers get more fun and positive emotions from gambling but lose money. The second part consists from gamblers who get profit and gamblers who lose money trying to get profit.
In the result we get very small quantity of winners, so the casino not lose but only get smaller profit.
PS. The gamblers betting for fun - the most happy gamblers.
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July 23, 2023, 04:01:50 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.

If you really have that or if you really possess that capabilities for sure you will keep it for yourself and take advantage of it, you will not share it as you know that it can be exploited, following your statement, if it's for sure that your analytical capabilities have a higher percentage to predict the outcome of the which possibly you make yourself a millionaire, it's not logical to sell it and share it to someone,

all those available channels are just base on a so-called expert but the assurance is not possible they can claimed but for sure it can't be accurate as the chance of losing still present and they can only refund you with the subscription most of the time, but the amount that you lose there's nothing on it, that's going to the bookies to enjoy.
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July 23, 2023, 03:34:44 PM
You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you.
What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory.
They basically earn way more money from their subscribers than they could earn through betting if they were to do that, and they might do it as well since that will double the profit for them, and what makes this business lucrative for people is the newbies who enter gambling and wants to have someone as their guide when they are placing bets on sports events, so that is the reason why every other person is trying to become an expert and run this business.

And newbies mostly don't see who is behind those signals being provided and they blindly follow them and they tend to lose a lot of money this way, but those who are providing those signals are earning through the fees they collect from these newbies who have become their subscribers.
In all honesty, the sports betting signals industry is a hyperbolic version of the "those who can't do, teach" scenario. Just like all those "millionaires" who drive for Uber yet post pictures of their flashy cars on Instagram.

Do the maths. Why waste time trying to sell your betting advise if you're already the best at what you do, as purportedly is the case with the "experts"? Why aren't they on Forbes' list of billionaires if they are doubling their money by betting on themselves and selling signals? Not quite adding up, is it?

The lack of openness is the most problematic aspect. Signal providers prey on inexperienced gamblers because they are easy targets. They profit regardless of whether the newcomers win or lose. It's rather shady if you ask me. If you see a "betting expert" in the future, you should be wary. Don't be a fool; use healthy scepticism.
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July 23, 2023, 03:20:28 PM
If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
Apart from the chance of winning the game in gambling being minimal, I believe most of the gamblers that pay for games which someone told them he/she has the right strategy for winning the game are still naive because it's analytical that no one will have such a strategy that could make them a millionaire overnight and decide to sell it for little money or ridiculous percentage the gambler will pay them.
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July 23, 2023, 02:42:14 PM
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You are good old man, Smiley , well maybe only +18 (age) simply you are surely using common sense, some people use it immediately, but in my time as a poker player it could be what is called reverse psychology, that is, if his intention is "that", what does he expect me to do, I mention it like that in a few words, but generally in poker one seeks to understand what he is looking for with his bet, the villain, that is to deceive, scam, make me believe... etc.

On the other hand, certainly in the game of poker, it is a closed environment, a table, a group of players who want to deceive each other, there is no doubt what is wanted in that group of players. Now, bringing that to the point of your approach, it's simple, what group are you in?, so, e.g. If there's something there on Telegram or any link... you already know where the intentions of those who are there want to take you.

In fact, some of these groups always have people who give strategy, but it is only the "bait" to catch the "fish" or fish, since it is a term used to catch newbies and fall into social engineering or phishing. (Then comes friendship, they already leave the group and try through DM, etc. then bump to give the big hit, not profit for you, that is, when he decides to fy you, especially it can take months even years, always remember, where you know him from, ah! yes from the internet)

On the other hand, there are groups that give information because is the reality of social life, what we have lost due to distrust, scams, etc. But, there are people or groups, yes, very closed where the information is shared, but obviously it is generally people you know, etc.
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July 23, 2023, 12:27:54 PM
And as we know - the casino is the business, so they`d change odds or even close sport betting if it isn`t profitable.

If we go down that road again, then yes, but most of those gamblers that pay for games obviously fail to realise that in gambling, they can't make a sure win, so why risk buying a game and still risk losing? because In the gambling industry, the rate of winning a game is always minimal compared to losses. Although there are really some things that some newbie gamblers don't know yet before starting to gamble, they may still get to know them.
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July 23, 2023, 11:51:29 AM
You are right, mate. Sometimes I also used to wonder why they (those scammers) would be giving out games for paid service when they could still stake those games on their own and make a big profit if it was really legit. So, that's even a convincing reason to believe that they are fake. Like you said, most newbies fall into those categories. I agree with you.
What if there are sports handicappers who do not want to take the risk and only want to earn from their expertise? It could be possible since they wouldn't need to risk their own money. With an increasing number of subscribers, they could make more money, making this kind of business potentially more profitable than gambling with their own funds. In the end, it still depends on us if we believe in the expert's advice; then, we have the option to pay for the service, but it's not compulsory.
They basically earn way more money from their subscribers than they could earn through betting if they were to do that, and they might do it as well since that will double the profit for them, and what makes this business lucrative for people is the newbies who enter gambling and wants to have someone as their guide when they are placing bets on sports events, so that is the reason why every other person is trying to become an expert and run this business.

And newbies mostly don't see who is behind those signals being provided and they blindly follow them and they tend to lose a lot of money this way, but those who are providing those signals are earning through the fees they collect from these newbies who have become their subscribers.
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July 23, 2023, 01:42:30 AM
You both right that there are lots of scammers. But the same time i know that there are some groups where you can get profit. I told before that i was in such a group. If you pay fixed price for predictions - it is 100% scammers. If you pay some percent from your profit - it looks much better. But of course, i don`t recommend to try to join such groups - the probability of the scam is too high.

You are right, there are some that would say you should place the bet, and if you win, they will have some percentage. Those ones seem to be better than the ones where you will have to make a full payment to those scammers, thinking they are real when they are not. The only people I know who can fall victim to this are mostly new gamblers who are always looking for sure ways to make more wins in gambling, but for me, I don't believe it's possible to make such mistakes.
Anyway, i have to notice that such groups are real. The problem that there are huge quantity of scammers and we can`t believe in such groups. The same time, if it would be so easy to find such groups, the bookie would lose a lot. And as we know - the casino is the business, so they`d change odds or even close sport betting if it isn`t profitable.
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July 22, 2023, 05:49:48 PM
They know well that gambling is just a choice of winning. Each player have got the probability of winning as well as losing. Finally the result depends on the luck one have got. This is the reason why the sports groups share predictions and make money out of it. Just an assumption, if the group consists of 200 members and the group receives a subscription of $5/month what is more needed. Even for this there'll be more terms and conditions that state winning of bets weren't assured. To be on the right side without taking risk the best choice were to have a group. There are few users who are really good at prediction and provide free tips on games.
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July 22, 2023, 05:42:49 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


People are getting hopeless with their gambling so they seek help from other gamblers too, if this is a sports gambling there's a normal thing that they are seeking for the groups trying to bet too because they want to have a tip or secondary opinion of other people. Personally, I always make a background check for the gambling event or the sports event happening so I can make a decision but not all games I know even though I have data, it takes time to do a review to check if the team is currently ideal to bet with or not reason why I check the groups if they tried to bet too and if they place a bet already and what are their thoughts. But seeking a mentor in that case its a big no for me. They are just lazy to check an information.
Talk about taking the easy way out! Your critique hits the nail on the head, as far too many gamblers want quick tips without doing the homework. A bit of arrogance is okay when you've got the facts to back it up, right?

My take? Its crucial to know your game, your team, the conditions - EVERYTHING. While secondary opinions can provide additional insights, one's own research and understanding should be the primary decision driver. Heck, even the most successful investors didnt become billionaires by blindly following the herd.

Lazy, thats what I call those who rely solely on others' opinions. Do they expect to hit the jackpot every time without investing any effort? Cognitive dissonance, maybe? Or resentment for those who put in the work and reap the rewards? Hard to tell. Either way, their loss.
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