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hero member
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July 02, 2023, 12:18:02 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I was in such a group. There were less than 20 men in this group. Someone searched for matches that can be with mistake in the odds and sent it to the group. We waited these matches and bet using these predictions. After 3-5-10 such bets the bookie decreased the limits of the bet. It took very many time and gave too small income as for me and i stopped. The best result was about $800 per month, but i slept between matches, woke up, bet, and slept one more hour. So i think that it is possible to get some profit but i don`t sure that it can become the main income.

Can you explain this a bit? What do you mean by the mistake in the odds?

Did you pay to be part of this group or it was a free group? $800 profit per month or even less than that is still a good result when you know that betting is a risky game. Why did you leave the group because you thought the 800$ per month income was less  Huh
legendary
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July 02, 2023, 12:17:33 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
A successful gambler is able to earn an amount from 7-15% of the total yearly-wager.
Do you play a total of 100k USD ? Ok you will win 15K USD max.
Of course there are exceptions (and lucky or unlucky moments) but in general this is what happens.

As you can imagine these are not life changing numbers, and there are absolutely people who bet just for themselves. For example, do you know the betfair premium charge?
It is clear that there are a number of operators who are able to earn significantly higher figures than those stated above, but we are referring to 0.5% of total bettors!
https://support.betfair.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6156/~/premium-charge---what-is-it%3F-will-i-need-to-pay-it%3F#:~:text=The%20premium%20charge%20is%20an,and%20meet%20a%20certain%20criteria.
You really don't find those figures life changing? Assuming you're a daily gambler, you can quite easily roll over 100 times your bankroll in one year. It means you can reach this 100k USD wagered mark with only a 1000$ bankroll. Winning 15 000$ or 10k from 1000$ is just huge. Especially because the next year you will be able to multiply your bankroll with this money and make 30k or 40k instead of 10 or 15k...
Just to clarify, 15k usd doesn't change your life (at least in the EU or western countries).
But It should be keept in mind that generating this amount takes an amount of time like a part time job (you have to study the odds, you have to study the events, you have to place/follow bets... pretty much any day of the week including nights)... Why not Just find another side job (probably much safer and lesa stressful?
Essential ...you must be good gambler!
we are already talking about excellent profits...
People that decide to make this "career" trying to reach other profits and they are using other stakes...
hero member
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July 02, 2023, 12:12:08 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I was in such a group. There were less than 20 men in this group. Someone searched for matches that can be with mistake in the odds and sent it to the group. We waited these matches and bet using these predictions. After 3-5-10 such bets the bookie decreased the limits of the bet. It took very many time and gave too small income as for me and i stopped. The best result was about $800 per month, but i slept between matches, woke up, bet, and slept one more hour. So i think that it is possible to get some profit but i don`t sure that it can become the main income.
legendary
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July 02, 2023, 12:04:05 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
A successful gambler is able to earn an amount from 7-15% of the total yearly-wager.
Do you play a total of 100k USD ? Ok you will win 15K USD max.
Of course there are exceptions (and lucky or unlucky moments) but in general this is what happens.

As you can imagine these are not life changing numbers, and there are absolutely people who bet just for themselves. For example, do you know the betfair premium charge?
It is clear that there are a number of operators who are able to earn significantly higher figures than those stated above, but we are referring to 0.5% of total bettors!
https://support.betfair.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6156/~/premium-charge---what-is-it%3F-will-i-need-to-pay-it%3F#:~:text=The%20premium%20charge%20is%20an,and%20meet%20a%20certain%20criteria.
You really don't find those figures life changing? Assuming you're a daily gambler, you can quite easily roll over 100 times your bankroll in one year. It means you can reach this 100k USD wagered mark with only a 1000$ bankroll. Winning 15 000$ or 10k from 1000$ is just huge. Especially because the next year you will be able to multiply your bankroll with this money and make 30k or 40k instead of 10 or 15k...
legendary
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July 02, 2023, 08:05:32 AM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?
A successful gambler is able to earn an amount from 7-15% of the total yearly-wager.
Do you play a total of 100k USD ? Ok you will win 15K USD max.
Of course there are exceptions (and lucky or unlucky moments) but in general this is what happens.

As you can imagine these are not life changing numbers, and there are absolutely people who bet just for themselves. For example, do you know the betfair premium charge?
It is clear that there are a number of operators who are able to earn significantly higher figures than those stated above, but we are referring to 0.5% of total bettors!
https://support.betfair.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6156/~/premium-charge---what-is-it%3F-will-i-need-to-pay-it%3F#:~:text=The%20premium%20charge%20is%20an,and%20meet%20a%20certain%20criteria.

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

In general, in these years that I have been following gambling activities(about 20-30) I have met practically only 1 of these groups that had "at least an appearance" of serious activity.
Obviously their income falls into the first group, nothing absurd, otherwise they will not share Wink
I believe that it is "convenient" to offer this information because they earn from subscriptions, affiliations, advertising on their sites, in short, it is an interesting way to maximize their profits.
hero member
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July 01, 2023, 03:09:10 PM
Yeah when dealing with parlay you needed to be extra careful as the house will attract you with lots of available combinations, if you are good in analyzing with value bets it might give you some good chance of winning decently, a matter of good practices and more on controlling your emotions, just make sure that you understand the game and you are not just placing your bet just because of odds.
^That is definitely right and I agree with you more.
Parlay bets require extra caution and careful analysis and we know this.
Having multiple combinations can be enticing, but it is important to have them with a strategic mindset. Analyzing value bets and having up-to-date information with the team that has match decisions can indeed increase your chances of winning decently. Emotion control plays a crucial role in gambling, as it is important to base your bets on a solid understanding of the game rather than being swayed solely by odds. By practicing good discipline and ensuring you have a thorough grasp of the game dynamics, you can make more calculated and rational betting choices. Remember, responsible gambling involves making to limit ourself while keeping our emotions in check as always.
legendary
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July 01, 2023, 02:58:01 PM
Your strategy of placing sizeable bets on single games is interesting. Like eating a giant creature - one piece at a time. But remember, each bet brings its share of thrill and uncertainty. While navigating these enchanting waters, remaining vigilant and welcoming surprises is paramount.
If you want to increase your chances of winning in sports betting, it's advisable to approach parlay bets with caution. Parlay bets typically give the house more advantage, so it's better not to heavily focus on them and instead place smaller bets. In my experience, I have found more success when I have fewer bets in a single day, allowing me to concentrate on the games I'm interested in. This approach provides better insights and enables me to analyze them more effectively.

Yeah when dealing with parlay you needed to be extra careful as the house will attract you with lots of available combinations, if you are good in analyzing with value bets it might give you some good chance of winning decently, a matter of good practices and more on controlling your emotions, just make sure that you understand the game and you are not just placing your bet just because of odds.

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July 01, 2023, 10:47:17 AM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


Well, that depends if they want to expand their business. But just know that there are more frauds than that real one so you have to be cautious. When I said expands their business, it is because they see their gambling strategy as how the business operates and make money. So if a profitable gambler wants to earn money, they will find a way and one of them is not relying on gambling alone but outside of it. One of that is education or teaching others within a course or mentorship king of things with subscription.

So in finding one, find people who have proof of winning reflected in their own life. I think no one else in here wanted to be taught by an addictive gambler who is a fraud and you got baited by them. So do your own research too.
hero member
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June 30, 2023, 09:58:39 AM
Your strategy of placing sizeable bets on single games is interesting. Like eating a giant creature - one piece at a time. But remember, each bet brings its share of thrill and uncertainty. While navigating these enchanting waters, remaining vigilant and welcoming surprises is paramount.
If you want to increase your chances of winning in sports betting, it's advisable to approach parlay bets with caution. Parlay bets typically give the house more advantage, so it's better not to heavily focus on them and instead place smaller bets. In my experience, I have found more success when I have fewer bets in a single day, allowing me to concentrate on the games I'm interested in. This approach provides better insights and enables me to analyze them more effectively.
I personally prefer not to choose parlay bets even though the results you get are bigger but the risk is also bigger.
For me single bets are better even though the results obtained are not as big as parlay bets but more focus on one match so that the chances of winning from the analysis made are greater.
But if you just want to try your luck with parlay bets, there's nothing wrong because sometimes someone's luck is different.
hero member
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June 30, 2023, 09:47:47 AM
Your strategy of placing sizeable bets on single games is interesting. Like eating a giant creature - one piece at a time. But remember, each bet brings its share of thrill and uncertainty. While navigating these enchanting waters, remaining vigilant and welcoming surprises is paramount.
If you want to increase your chances of winning in sports betting, it's advisable to approach parlay bets with caution. Parlay bets typically give the house more advantage, so it's better not to heavily focus on them and instead place smaller bets. In my experience, I have found more success when I have fewer bets in a single day, allowing me to concentrate on the games I'm interested in. This approach provides better insights and enables me to analyze them more effectively.
hero member
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June 30, 2023, 06:18:01 AM
Then whats the essence of wanting to waste time in following such groups. Most time some of these groups actually request for some kind cash to be paid by their customers for a particular prediction to be given to them guaranteeing that the particular prediction is safe to stake your cash on which obviously isn't the case after the match has been played.

Scammers will be always be greedy and they're the ones that open this groups and take money without giving the people what they want. There are legit ones that gives people correct games to bet on and they aren't fake. Obviously if they give you 10 games all 10 can't win.

Although when you use their prediction you get a higher possibility of winning them. Some people are just good and lucky with sport betting and they know they'll make more profits when they continue giving out good betting games instead of taking people money and run away.

To win when betting with bet group, it's better you bet big on individual games instead of combining games as those type of bet don't always end well because one or more games will always make you to lose your bet but with individual bet you can win on each game.
That's a hefty subject to delve into. As per your mention, the sports betting arena is a stormy mix of swindlers and authentic operators. It's akin to walking a landmine field blindfolded, uncertain when you'll hit a dud or a live one.

Your reliance on these betting gurus, though, seems precarious. While some people have a gift for foreseeing game results, continuous dependence on them is risky. The golden goose might stop laying golden eggs someday.

Your strategy of placing sizeable bets on single games is interesting. Like eating a giant creature - one piece at a time. But remember, each bet brings its share of thrill and uncertainty. While navigating these enchanting waters, remaining vigilant and welcoming surprises is paramount.
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June 30, 2023, 03:46:59 AM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I believe there is no such group. Predictions have a probability of being wrong - right. Not even the mafia can control all the matches, all the games, no one can predict all of them correctly. Of course, there will be people whose percentage of guesses is higher than average, but are you sure that when you follow the bet, you will definitely win that match? You can win 3 small matches and then lose 1 game with a large amount of money -> so empty-handed, lose everything.
hero member
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June 30, 2023, 12:54:48 AM
You are right, there are still groups that are genuine, but two important factors about such groups is that...
  • They are very rare to find - like you already mentioned.
  • Second is that, they are mostly not public - like you partially said.
  • Third, which is the most important is that, they are mostly no free to join, most come with a fee and also a percentage of every winning.

In conclusion, I would still prefer that one build out his or her own strategy in gambling, betting rather than falling victim to several scam group in the process of searching for the right group.
It's not free. That's what we have to think about because paying a subscription fee is very expensive because their predictions may exceed the average prediction of others. And they also don't show that they are experts in their field but only based on invitations from other people who have joined the group. So in looking for those original groups, we will probably come across many groups offering the same services as the original group. But the difference is they don't predict through their own expertise but only take from the other groups' information and pass it on to their own group. I've come across this a lot before and it keeps me from avoiding joining any paid groups.

And actually how can you join such a group and really have some kind of insider information or other reliable information to act logically when you make bets yourself?  Probably only by buying some kind of subscription to information from such a source.  
However, it seems to me that there can be no reasonable guarantees in the sale of forecasts at all.  
Simply for the reason that even insider information in such a group can be informational stuffing and generally not correspond to reality.  After all, for the organizers of the group, it doesn’t matter how much you win or lose.  They get their money from the contributions of the group members and I think that is enough for them.  
And their betting recommendations are in any case very probable and most likely do not differ from the recommendations of just an experienced player who has just been following sports events for a long time and objectively.
Subscribing to paid groups doesn't guarantee we can get good predictions because we can run into fake groups that don't give good predictions. After all, they only get them from other groups. We should choose our own team based on the analysis we are capable of while we continue to strive to improve our analytical skills. That will be better for us because we can learn more about analyzing a match based on the information we get. And even though we couldn't give a win from the analysis results, we still got something useful for further analysis.

Then here is another language or a regular says that we keep saying that " gamble with what you can afford to lose", I think anyone who doesn't obey this languages are to have issues because joining a group that would keep saying that all their games are correct may likely lure them into losing their money if doesn't games didn't play as predicted. I believe every gambler has it at the back of their mind in other for them to last longer in the field of gambling.

I still stand on the opinion that no matter how a group is legitimate, the scores might not be accurate as you think so it's best advisable to only gamble what you could afford lose.
Gambling with what you can afford to lose is something we should always remember so we can avoid losing a lot of money. And also, we can avoid the gambling addiction we will experience if we never control our gambling. And if we doubt the ability of the group we find, we shouldn't use it and look for information ourselves and always apply limits in gambling. And besides that, to get a real group, it takes time and services like that may be paid so we have to subscribe.

And this is actually my problem with these so called betting groups, so many are out there but I would say from a scale of one to hundred only 5% of these group is legit and even at that how possible is it to find them, its like looking for a niddle in a haystack. For this reason I actually don't bother myself in any group that claims to provide sure odds because nothing in the gambling world is actually sure so its just a big waste of time and money.
The percentage may be even smaller because an original group like that won't want to show its existence like the groups we often encounter. And that's why we have to stay alert and not get our hopes up to find such groups. It's better for us to look for information from other places because it will be more valid than the groups we find. And we can also learn to analyze each team to find a team with higher chances and great potential to win.
hero member
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June 29, 2023, 05:59:21 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

It is really all for the sub fees and this is why lots of those so called good bettors would really be making out those kind of claims that they do really have that a good winning rate on which to those noobs around

who would really be easily getting deceived by these people. Sooner or later they would really be able to realize about the reality of these stuffs on which it would really be not something relevant for you to follow on.

If you do just simply make use of your own common sense then you wouldn't really be finding yourself on having those second thoughts that you might be joining or not with these type of groups.Also, its not really that entertaining or something enjoyable if you do always rely on someones tips and recommendations on what team you should really bet on. We are all speculators or bettors on here on which there's
no way that we could be able to assure on whose gonna win or lose.This is why its not really not ideal on paying up for some sub fees just because you do believe that you could be having
an upperhand on following someone.
hero member
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June 29, 2023, 05:56:50 PM
Then whats the essence of wanting to waste time in following such groups. Most time some of these groups actually request for some kind cash to be paid by their customers for a particular prediction to be given to them guaranteeing that the particular prediction is safe to stake your cash on which obviously isn't the case after the match has been played.

Scammers will be always be greedy and they're the ones that open this groups and take money without giving the people what they want. There are legit ones that gives people correct games to bet on and they aren't fake. Obviously if they give you 10 games all 10 can't win.

Although when you use their prediction you get a higher possibility of winning them. Some people are just good and lucky with sport betting and they know they'll make more profits when they continue giving out good betting games instead of taking people money and run away.

To win when betting with bet group, it's better you bet big on individual games instead of combining games as those type of bet don't always end well because one or more games will always make you to lose your bet but with individual bet you can win on each game.
sr. member
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June 29, 2023, 04:36:14 PM
We all know that only greedy individuals may likely fall into this set of trap because I don't believe there's a trusted group and a guaranteed way to have sure bet and winning knowing too well that we can't give an accurate results of every game and match they are playing. Likely people who don't know that those scammers are just creating this groups to lure them into subscribing to their channels in other to get paid at the expected duration. For In instance there is always an amount being paid in some of these channels and signal groups for them to remain active and to be receiving some free matches
Indeed, some groups are trusted, but I don't think they are easy to find because surely those in the group will not carelessly share their groups with other people they don't know. But even though you can join that group, you don't need to bet a lot of money because anything can happen and the predictions given in that group can also be wrong. We have to watch out for groups that claim to be trusted groups and say that their predictions are valid, thus deceiving many people. We must continue to analyze the information they provide so that we don't take the wrong step in placing a bet.
And this is actually my problem with these so called betting groups, so many are out there but I would say from a scale of one to hundred only 5% of these group is legit and even at that how possible is it to find them, its like looking for a niddle in a haystack. For this reason I actually don't bother myself in any group that claims to provide sure odds because nothing in the gambling world is actually sure so its just a big waste of time and money.
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June 29, 2023, 03:28:41 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


Yes, because it is as funny as it is sounding while reading it. Lolz. It's like asking the Apple CEO are you ready to trade your company secrets so that we can make money together and live happily ever after? Obviously not gonna happen ever and makes no sense at all. They roam around with that strategy because there are always a few peeps who would fall into the trap, pay them heavy fees, or share idiotic profits and whatnot. They will never know how they are getting leached for the money they are putting into the scheme which they thought would grow big and make them millions. If you ever see someone selling automated scripts, automated bots, or even a piece of paper, then just make sure you show them the trash. That's where they belong in reality.

I don't know if the sports betting groups are real, if not Ghanaian, and that's what interests me about this thread, because if there is someone who has experience in groups like this who can say if it's worth it or not, , when the membership of a group of these is paid, it has to be ensured that the person wins, whether or not they know about the sport, what they have to do is learn well and that's it, but it is not required that a person knows the sport, I I don't know much about sports, what I do know is a bit about boxing, but I don't feel like an expert , I don't really know what boxers are like, I just know that there are many Who are Famous.
hero member
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June 29, 2023, 02:58:14 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.


Yes, because it is as funny as it is sounding while reading it. Lolz. It's like asking the Apple CEO are you ready to trade your company secrets so that we can make money together and live happily ever after? Obviously not gonna happen ever and makes no sense at all. They roam around with that strategy because there are always a few peeps who would fall into the trap, pay them heavy fees, or share idiotic profits and whatnot. They will never know how they are getting leached for the money they are putting into the scheme which they thought would grow big and make them millions. If you ever see someone selling automated scripts, automated bots, or even a piece of paper, then just make sure you show them the trash. That's where they belong in reality.
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June 29, 2023, 01:41:19 PM
If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.
I have the same thoughts, there are people who create groups and pages and charge people money to get subscribed to get free signals for either cryptocurrency trading or get tips and betting strategies for sports betting, but as you said, why would they need to sell their tips and tricks and signals if they can benefit from it themselves and earn more money that way? I never believe in such things and always ignore them.

There are also people who teach others how things are done which can be used to earn money, I always think, if they are really that much of an expert in that field which can earn everyone thousands of dollars, why do they sell courses for $40 or $50 and don't do what they teach themselves to earn in thousands of dollars? Ironic, right?
legendary
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June 29, 2023, 12:18:10 PM
Nope, that's why those people create their own group and convince people to join in their group by paying some fee.

They're making money by give fake predictions, the funny this there's always someone who believe about it since the predictions is mostly correct. But the reason why he can give many correct predictions is he choose favorite team or fighter, so it's obvious favorite team or fighter will have a higher chance to win.
So there are truly groups like that. If someone is desperate enough to have people on their groups, they will do anything including paying people to join them or even buy bots to make their group active. I don't like this kind of approach but it's better if they can grow it organically. If their groups are great, people will just join there easily.

It's not wrong if a group is trying to make money but what is only wrong is if they will provide fake signals. For those who will avail a premium group, they must know that losing is still possible. If they want a sure win, only those who offer a match-fixing call can help them but they should be careful as many of them are just a scam.
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