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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

Yes, because it is as funny as it is sounding while reading it. Lolz. It's like asking the Apple CEO are you ready to trade your company secrets so that we can make money together and live happily ever after? Obviously not gonna happen ever and makes no sense at all. They roam around with that strategy because there are always a few peeps who would fall into the trap, pay them heavy fees, or share idiotic profits and whatnot. They will never know how they are getting leached for the money they are putting into the scheme which they thought would grow big and make them millions. If you ever see someone selling automated scripts, automated bots, or even a piece of paper, then just make sure you show them the trash. That's where they belong in reality.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on June 28, 2023, 09:23:42 AM

If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I have the same thoughts, there are people who create groups and pages and charge people money to get subscribed to get free signals for either cryptocurrency trading or get tips and betting strategies for sports betting, but as you said, why would they need to sell their tips and tricks and signals if they can benefit from it themselves and earn more money that way? I never believe in such things and always ignore them.

There are also people who teach others how things are done which can be used to earn money, I always think, if they are really that much of an expert in that field which can earn everyone thousands of dollars, why do they sell courses for $40 or $50 and don't do what they teach themselves to earn in thousands of dollars? Ironic, right?

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Nope, that's why those people create their own group and convince people to join in their group by paying some fee.

They're making money by give fake predictions, the funny this there's always someone who believe about it since the predictions is mostly correct. But the reason why he can give many correct predictions is he choose favorite team or fighter, so it's obvious favorite team or fighter will have a higher chance to win.

So there are truly groups like that. If someone is desperate enough to have people on their groups, they will do anything including paying people to join them or even buy bots to make their group active. I don't like this kind of approach but it's better if they can grow it organically. If their groups are great, people will just join there easily.

It's not wrong if a group is trying to make money but what is only wrong is if they will provide fake signals. For those who will avail a premium group, they must know that losing is still possible. If they want a sure win, only those who offer a match-fixing call can help them but they should be careful as many of them are just a scam.

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Quote from: elevates on June 29, 2023, 10:10:39 AM

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There are many groups we cannot trust their reputation by providing with gambling odds, the reason why you discover seeing gamblers interested in looking after such plaforms is for them to be able to get opportunities for betting odds and free winning additional informations they could adopt to also increases their chances.

Don't you think that these groups are similar to the pump & dump group? I won't say that all of them are not worthy to follow, even if you follow then they cannot be accurate always. If they prove that they are correct they will ask you to become a paid member. I would always avoid paid signal groups as they always con the member that joins. It is not easy, still, it is possible to make your own calls if you invest a lot of time. Another thing is to gather as much data on the performance of a particular team and players to make a good prediction.

Do your own analysis and research yourself so that you don't blame anyone when you loss. Doing research yourself will help you understand the game and have a good knowledge on how the game will end up.

It is not healthy to depend on results from people that you don't know if they are for real or not and not advisable. I have tried it before and I loss big time because a friend gave me the result and it ended up not favourable after the end of the match. It is easy to make your own research and analysis, if you have being following up the games.

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For those saying they have strategies that will help you win more in gambling it's mere chit chat talks without any base because gambling is luck based game and how come you develop plans for the outcome which are not under your control? They are trying to attract new players who are easily influenced by the greed factor to join them with fees and later on end up losing their money so don't trust them at all.You can gain experience in som games and apply strategies according to situational gameplay but guarantee is not there of winning.

I don't think that someone can provide tips or betting strategies that can be effective for gambling games, but it is about sports betting, and we all know that sports betting depends on your skills, experiences, and your ability to research and analyze the teams playing a particular sports match, so it's basically possible for someone to provide you with a tip about an upcoming match if they have researched and analyzed everything and has some experience and knowledge.

Anyway, I believe it is still not a good way to do sports betting, you might want to hear the opinions of others but you should never place your bets based on someone else's analysis and only do it if you have done it yourself, it is your money and you should be the one taking the decisions.

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Quote from: elevates on June 29, 2023, 10:10:39 AM

There are many groups we cannot trust their reputation by providing with gambling odds, the reason why you discover seeing gamblers interested in looking after such plaforms is for them to be able to get opportunities for betting odds and free winning additional informations they could adopt to also increases their chances.

Don't you think that these groups are similar to the pump & dump group? I won't say that all of them are not worthy to follow, even if you follow then they cannot be accurate always. If they prove that they are correct they will ask you to become a paid member. I would always avoid paid signal groups as they always con the member that joins. It is not easy, still, it is possible to make your own calls if you invest a lot of time. Another thing is to gather as much data on the performance of a particular team and players to make a good prediction.

^It could be the same with match-fixing right?
It is not impossible that there is a group of individuals that has insider information or attempts to manipulate the outcome of a match but I think it is extremely rare and constitutes a serious breach of the integrity of the gambling industry which now does not long last.
So if there is a group offering something like this paid membership, that is likely a scam and people must stay away from that service offer. Probably there is a community like this in our forum which discusses publicly regarding gambling events, not the future result.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on June 29, 2023, 09:23:52 AM

There are many groups we cannot trust their reputation by providing with gambling odds, the reason why you discover seeing gamblers interested in looking after such plaforms is for them to be able to get opportunities for betting odds and free winning additional informations they could adopt to also increases their chances.

Don't you think that these groups are similar to the pump & dump group? I won't say that all of them are not worthy to follow, even if you follow then they cannot be accurate always. If they prove that they are correct they will ask you to become a paid member. I would always avoid paid signal groups as they always con the member that joins. It is not easy, still, it is possible to make your own calls if you invest a lot of time. Another thing is to gather as much data on the performance of a particular team and players to make a good prediction.

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moreover there are always a disclaimer saying "saying no refunds after payment or when game lost". And you think they don't know what they are doing? [/list]

That's how they stay in business. What they boast about is not winning all the time, but rather winning most of the time. However, there are some who do not promote good bankroll management. They encourage gamblers to bet large sums of money so that if the gambler wins, their commission is substantial.

This approach is advantageous for them because they don't have any liability in case a gambler loses, but they still make money if the gambler wins.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 29, 2023, 03:20:54 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on June 28, 2023, 04:51:04 PM

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Indeed, some groups are trusted, but I don't think they are easy to find because surely those in the group will not carelessly share their groups with other people they don't know. But even though you can join that group, you don't need to bet a lot of money because anything can happen and the predictions given in that group can also be wrong. We have to watch out for groups that claim to be trusted groups and say that their predictions are valid, thus deceiving many people. We must continue to analyze the information they provide so that we don't take the wrong step in placing a bet.

Then here is another language or a regular says that we keep saying that " gamble with what you can afford to lose", I think anyone who doesn't obey this languages are to have issues because joining a group that would keep saying that all their games are correct may likely lure them into losing their money if doesn't games didn't play as predicted. I believe every gambler has it at the back of their mind in other for them to last longer in the field of gambling.

I still stand on the opinion that no matter how a group is legitimate, the scores might not be accurate as you think so it's best advisable to only gamble what you could afford lose.

Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on June 29, 2023, 04:33:19 AM

Third, which is the most important is that, they are mostly no free to join, most come with a fee and also a percentage of every winning.

Even as that you think such person won't invite all their family members to start gambling if it was that easy?
Yes, I understand your point but we should also know one thing that those group owners are only interested in your fees and moreover there are always a disclaimer saying "saying no refunds after payment or when game lost". And you think they don't know what they are doing? [/list]

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I guess if there's a legit, that would be 1% of all or even less than that. You're right that if someone has the right strategy in winning their bets and has a way to determine who's gonna win on a bet per match

There are many groups we cannot trust their reputation by providing with gambling odds, the reason why you discover seeing gamblers interested in looking after such plaforms is for them to be able to get opportunities for betting odds and free winning additional informations they could adopt to also increases their chances.

They think that's the easiest way but if looking into that, it's hard to impossible for one to find.

Quote from: klidex on June 29, 2023, 06:09:42 AM

But here goes the answer on that, they're only telling that to attract people but in reality, they're just gonna sell out those nonsense memberships.

They are interestingly making money from this because some it's something they sit and planned for while we also can do same and bring out something interesting to take provided we have adequate understanding about gambling and we can win than depending on other's efforts.

That's their main way to earn money from such. There could be some wins on their end but then, this is where they're making mainly their source of income from such communities.

I agree with you that from many years that I am familiar with gambling and sports betting I have not found a real sports betting group but have always found sports betting groups that are under the guise of being free but after that have a fee for every prediction they make.
I have experienced this problem several times until now I do not trust any sports betting group because it is more fun to use my own strategy compared to strategies made by other people where there is no guarantee of winning.

I guess there's nothing wrong if it's just within the circle of your common and real friends, people that you really know. But if it's a group that's claiming that they're a good group having high accuracy for the sports they bet, don't always believe but verify.

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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I guess if there's a legit, that would be 1% of all or even less than that. You're right that if someone has the right strategy in winning their bets and has a way to determine who's gonna win on a bet per match then they should be the ones that must be selfish on their own and start taking money from each bet they make and win from that. But here goes the answer on that, they're only telling that to attract people but in reality, they're just gonna sell out those nonsense memberships.

If they really can predict the accurate outcome, we might see them making millions out of their bets, and like what you said, they might be selfish and keep gaining from that special skill that they've got. I follow you with that statement, more on selling that talking point to attract other people / gambler to buy subscriptions from them.

Maybe there's a small portion of those experienced gamblers who can win some decent amount of money, but in terms of making
a continuous profit, that's an opinion base and a claim can be taken, but proving is another thing just saying.

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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I guess if there's a legit, that would be 1% of all or even less than that. You're right that if someone has the right strategy in winning their bets and has a way to determine who's gonna win on a bet per match then they should be the ones that must be selfish on their own and start taking money from each bet they make and win from that. But here goes the answer on that, they're only telling that to attract people but in reality, they're just gonna sell out those nonsense memberships.

I agree with you that from many years that I am familiar with gambling and sports betting I have not found a real sports betting group but have always found sports betting groups that are under the guise of being free but after that have a fee for every prediction they make.
I have experienced this problem several times until now I do not trust any sports betting group because it is more fun to use my own strategy compared to strategies made by other people where there is no guarantee of winning.

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I guess if there's a legit, that would be 1% of all or even less than that. You're right that if someone has the right strategy in winning their bets and has a way to determine who's gonna win on a bet per match

There are many groups we cannot trust their reputation by providing with gambling odds, the reason why you discover seeing gamblers interested in looking after such plaforms is for them to be able to get opportunities for betting odds and free winning additional informations they could adopt to also increases their chances.

But here goes the answer on that, they're only telling that to attract people but in reality, they're just gonna sell out those nonsense memberships.

They are interestingly making money from this because some it's something they sit and planned for while we also can do same and bring out something interesting to take provided we have adequate understanding about gambling and we can win than depending on other's efforts.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 29, 2023, 03:20:54 AM

If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

My question for you my friends is are there sport betting groups that gives betting calls that are legit? Because I believe that if anyone knows a way to change their life around, they won't tell anyone, they will enjoy the moments and pray it last forever.

I guess if there's a legit, that would be 1% of all or even less than that. You're right that if someone has the right strategy in winning their bets and has a way to determine who's gonna win on a bet per match then they should be the ones that must be selfish on their own and start taking money from each bet they make and win from that. But here goes the answer on that, they're only telling that to attract people but in reality, they're just gonna sell out those nonsense memberships.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on June 28, 2023, 04:51:04 PM

We all know that only greedy individuals may likely fall into this set of trap because I don't believe there's a trusted group and a guaranteed way to have sure bet and winning knowing too well that we can't give an accurate results of every game and match they are playing. Likely people who don't know that those scammers are just creating this groups to lure them into subscribing to their channels in other to get paid at the expected duration. For In instance there is always an amount being paid in some of these channels and signal groups for them to remain active and to be receiving some free matches

Indeed, some groups are trusted, but I don't think they are easy to find because surely those in the group will not carelessly share their groups with other people they don't know. But even though you can join that group, you don't need to bet a lot of money because anything can happen and the predictions given in that group can also be wrong. We have to watch out for groups that claim to be trusted groups and say that their predictions are valid, thus deceiving many people. We must continue to analyze the information they provide so that we don't take the wrong step in placing a bet.

And actually how can you join such a group and really have some kind of insider information or other reliable information to act logically when you make bets yourself? Probably only by buying some kind of subscription to information from such a source.
However, it seems to me that there can be no reasonable guarantees in the sale of forecasts at all.
Simply for the reason that even insider information in such a group can be informational stuffing and generally not correspond to reality. After all, for the organizers of the group, it doesn’t matter how much you win or lose. They get their money from the contributions of the group members and I think that is enough for them.
And their betting recommendations are in any case very probable and most likely do not differ from the recommendations of just an experienced player who has just been following sports events for a long time and objectively.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 29, 2023, 03:20:54 AM

Quote from: SmartGold01 on June 28, 2023, 04:51:04 PM

We all know that only greedy individuals may likely fall into this set of trap because I don't believe there's a trusted group and a guaranteed way to have sure bet and winning knowing too well that we can't give an accurate results of every game and match they are playing. Likely people who don't know that those scammers are just creating this groups to lure them into subscribing to their channels in other to get paid at the expected duration. For In instance there is always an amount being paid in some of these channels and signal groups for them to remain active and to be receiving some free matches

Indeed, some groups are trusted, but I don't think they are easy to find because surely those in the group will not carelessly share their groups with other people they don't know. But even though you can join that group, you don't need to bet a lot of money because anything can happen and the predictions given in that group can also be wrong. We have to watch out for groups that claim to be trusted groups and say that their predictions are valid, thus deceiving many people. We must continue to analyze the information they provide so that we don't take the wrong step in placing a bet.

You are right, there are still groups that are genuine, but two important factors about such groups is that...

They are very rare to find - like you already mentioned.
Second is that, they are mostly not public - like you partially said.
Third, which is the most important is that, they are mostly no free to join, most come with a fee and also a percentage of every winning.

In conclusion, I would still prefer that one build out his or her own strategy in gambling, betting rather than falling victim to several scam group in the process of searching for the right group.

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Quote from: SmartGold01 on June 28, 2023, 04:51:04 PM

We all know that only greedy individuals may likely fall into this set of trap because I don't believe there's a trusted group and a guaranteed way to have sure bet and winning knowing too well that we can't give an accurate results of every game and match they are playing. Likely people who don't know that those scammers are just creating this groups to lure them into subscribing to their channels in other to get paid at the expected duration. For In instance there is always an amount being paid in some of these channels and signal groups for them to remain active and to be receiving some free matches

Indeed, some groups are trusted, but I don't think they are easy to find because surely those in the group will not carelessly share their groups with other people they don't know. But even though you can join that group, you don't need to bet a lot of money because anything can happen and the predictions given in that group can also be wrong. We have to watch out for groups that claim to be trusted groups and say that their predictions are valid, thus deceiving many people. We must continue to analyze the information they provide so that we don't take the wrong step in placing a bet.

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If someone claimed they have the right strategy for gambling and winning more times than losing, why can't they use the strategy for themselves and change their lives first?

a) if supposed to be legit, they like to take advantage of their skills and make money from it
b) if supposed to be sh*t, just want to simply scam people, that's it

Why did they go around looking for people to teach? This is why experience after following a friend to a gambling group on telegram, but I am not ready to take the step in any other their predictions..

a) if supposed to be legit, of course, they like to market their service for them to make money from it
b) if supposed to be a scam, scammers are really doing an effort to look for users to be lured