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sr. member
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Lux e tenebris
April 03, 2014, 08:46:37 AM
#25
It can't be much fun taking bfl money. Or do some of you refuse/give that part to charity?
full member
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April 03, 2014, 08:13:54 AM
#24
They earn and deserve every cent of it, just look at some of the spamming spree ones and you would be completely agreeing with that.
I imagine it's fun too to be one of the people making the shots  Cool
legendary
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nahtnam.com
April 01, 2014, 12:11:22 AM
#23
The only thing im scared of is my accuracy going down. I guess it will improve over time.
Don't be. A bit after the system was put in last year, theymos revealed in the donator board that an accuracy of roughly 60% was above average and that anyone reporting more than just the extremely obvious stuff would likely have an accuracy below 90%. People who have been local moderators for a board for some time (so they still have to report things outside of their jurisdiction) have an accuracy >95%, but <98%. Obviously, it's a private board, so I can't tell you the exact figures, but that's roughly what the figures were.

The raw number of good reports is much more important than the accuracy, as long as the accuracy is reasonably high.

Is reporting necessary for posts in the wrong section?
Yes, we would greatly appreciate it.

If it is, should I provide the correct subforum in the textbox
Yes! You don't have to, but it really makes it easier for us since we only have to look at the post to verify that you were correct instead of figuring it out by reading it more closely. It saves several seconds per report. Not only that, but it shows your sense of judgement for where things belong. A person who states where a thread should go and is usually right about that is much more likely to be made a mod than someone who always just puts in "wrong forum".

Thanks for the info! I look forward to helping you guys out! Smiley
legendary
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April 01, 2014, 12:09:15 AM
#22
The only thing im scared of is my accuracy going down. I guess it will improve over time.
Don't be. A bit after the system was put in last year, theymos revealed in the donator board that an accuracy of roughly 60% was above average and that anyone reporting more than just the extremely obvious stuff would likely have an accuracy below 90%. People who have been local moderators for a board for some time (so they still have to report things outside of their jurisdiction) have an accuracy >95%, but <98%. Obviously, it's a private board, so I can't tell you the exact figures, but that's roughly what the figures were.

The raw number of good reports is much more important than the accuracy, as long as the accuracy is reasonably high.

Is reporting necessary for posts in the wrong section?
Yes, we would greatly appreciate it.

If it is, should I provide the correct subforum in the textbox
Yes! You don't have to, but it really makes it easier for us since we only have to look at the post to verify that you were correct instead of figuring it out by reading it more closely. It saves several seconds per report. Not only that, but it shows your sense of judgement for where things belong. A person who states where a thread should go and is usually right about that is much more likely to be made a mod than someone who always just puts in "wrong forum".
legendary
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nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 11:37:08 PM
#21
Yeah, its not going to pay your bills, but it does allow for some extra spending BTC to buy some cool thing that someone is selling, be it alpaca socks, or whatever else you find here.

Moderating here is definately not a bad task. You get caught up in nonsense from time to time, for trying to moderate a userbase that doesn't want to be moderated, but overall no complaints.

Awesome! What's the best way I can help?
Report posts! If you can provide a recommended course of action in the report, all the better. Don't worry about being accurate all of the time, since only staff members have access to the more specific policies (this is to prevent internet-lawyering where people purposefully find loopholes in our policies). We know that you'll get better once you have access to that. Generally, the policies boil down to removing spam, removing off-topic posts, and moving thread to the correct board for their topic. Most notably, on-topic trolling is usually okay here, so don't report instances of that.

If you find yourself receiving a bunch of reports flagged as bad, feel free to make a post on this board or contact a global moderator and we can let you know how to improve.

Really, the only downside to being a moderator is dealing with the report queue. That's the only thing that actually feels like "work" (which I'm happy to deal with since we are paid). Finding things to moderate in the wild from threads that you're already reading is much more enjoyable. In fact, I originally became a global mod because I was reading most of the boards already and reporting issues I found. Theymos thought it would make more sense to cut out the middleman and give me the power to moderate everywhere directly.

Convince us that it's better to cut out the middleman for you and you'll be made a moderator.

The only thing im scared of is my accuracy going down. I guess it will improve over time.

Is reporting necessary for posts in the wrong section? If it is, should I provide the correct subforum in the textbox
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1015
March 31, 2014, 10:57:35 PM
#20
Yeah, its not going to pay your bills, but it does allow for some extra spending BTC to buy some cool thing that someone is selling, be it alpaca socks, or whatever else you find here.

Moderating here is definately not a bad task. You get caught up in nonsense from time to time, for trying to moderate a userbase that doesn't want to be moderated, but overall no complaints.

Awesome! What's the best way I can help?
Report posts! If you can provide a recommended course of action in the report, all the better. Don't worry about being accurate all of the time, since only staff members have access to the more specific policies (this is to prevent internet-lawyering where people purposefully find loopholes in our policies). We know that you'll get better once you have access to that. Generally, the policies boil down to removing spam, removing off-topic posts, and moving thread to the correct board for their topic. Most notably, on-topic trolling is usually okay here, so don't report instances of that.

If you find yourself receiving a bunch of reports flagged as bad, feel free to make a post on this board or contact a global moderator and we can let you know how to improve.

Really, the only downside to being a moderator is dealing with the report queue. That's the only thing that actually feels like "work" (which I'm happy to deal with since we are paid). Finding things to moderate in the wild from threads that you're already reading is much more enjoyable. In fact, I originally became a global mod because I was reading most of the boards already and reporting issues I found. Theymos thought it would make more sense to cut out the middleman and give me the power to moderate everywhere directly.

Convince us that it's better to cut out the middleman for you and you'll be made a moderator.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 09:34:37 PM
#19
Yeah, its not going to pay your bills, but it does allow for some extra spending BTC to buy some cool thing that someone is selling, be it alpaca socks, or whatever else you find here.

Moderating here is definately not a bad task. You get caught up in nonsense from time to time, for trying to moderate a userbase that doesn't want to be moderated, but overall no complaints.

Awesome! What's the best way I can help?
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
March 31, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
#18
Yeah, its not going to pay your bills, but it does allow for some extra spending BTC to buy some cool thing that someone is selling, be it alpaca socks, or whatever else you find here.

Moderating here is definately not a bad task. You get caught up in nonsense from time to time, for trying to moderate a userbase that doesn't want to be moderated, but overall no complaints.
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
March 31, 2014, 08:47:44 PM
#17
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Really? Being a mod seems pretty fun.

Fun some of the time.
I'm sure there are some really bad days too.
legendary
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nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 08:40:48 PM
#16
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.

So about 25% of the revenue spilt between about 40 mods.

The forum gets about 18 btc per week for advertising.

18x0.25=4.5
4.5/40=0.1125
0.1125/7*31=0.4982142

So each mod gets around 0.5 btc per month?

Like I said, it does depend on moderator activity, but that isn't a bad average.

Ok, not a bad amount for moderating a forum.

The $ per hour is pretty low, and it's awful compared to my day job... but it's a perk, gives me some spending BTC!

Really? Being a mod seems pretty fun.
legendary
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Keep it real
March 31, 2014, 08:21:19 PM
#15
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.

So about 25% of the revenue spilt between about 40 mods.

The forum gets about 18 btc per week for advertising.

18x0.25=4.5
4.5/40=0.1125
0.1125/7*31=0.4982142

So each mod gets around 0.5 btc per month?

Like I said, it does depend on moderator activity, but that isn't a bad average.

Ok, not a bad amount for moderating a forum.

The $ per hour is pretty low, and it's awful compared to my day job... but it's a perk, gives me some spending BTC!
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 08:08:13 PM
#14
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.

So about 25% of the revenue spilt between about 40 mods.

The forum gets about 18 btc per week for advertising.

18x0.25=4.5
4.5/40=0.1125
0.1125/7*31=0.4982142

So each mod gets around 0.5 btc per month?

Like I said, it does depend on moderator activity, but that isn't a bad average.

Ok, not a bad amount for moderating a forum.
legendary
Activity: 2590
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
March 31, 2014, 07:35:46 PM
#13
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.

So about 25% of the revenue spilt between about 40 mods.

The forum gets about 18 btc per week for advertising.

18x0.25=4.5
4.5/40=0.1125
0.1125/7*31=0.4982142

So each mod gets around 0.5 btc per month?

Like I said, it does depend on moderator activity, but that isn't a bad average.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 07:28:53 PM
#12
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.

So about 25% of the revenue spilt between about 40 mods.

The forum gets about 18 btc per week for advertising.

18x0.25=4.5
4.5/40=0.1125
0.1125/7*31=0.4982142

So each mod gets around 0.5 btc per month?
legendary
Activity: 2114
Merit: 1040
A Great Time to Start Something!
March 31, 2014, 07:26:23 PM
#11
Moderators have tough jobs.
Thanks for your time and effort.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
March 31, 2014, 07:21:27 PM
#10
How much $$$ does theymos pay you?

It depends on the ad revenue, take the month's ad revenue X 0.25 and divide that by about 40. Active moderators get more than inactive ones, but that is a rough figure.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
nahtnam.com
March 31, 2014, 06:37:30 PM
#9
The question is:

could there be more mods, if they volunteer and abdicate the "mod wages"?

I would assume it's more a problem of finding people they trust, rather than fiscal issues.

On forum sites, taking on a mods is usually a...dubious process.
This. Money is not a factor in deciding whether we take on more moderators, since the pay is not supposed to be used as a living wage that can be depended on. The pay mainly exists so that there's less moderator turnover, because finding new mods that can be trusted is quite a bit of work. Well, that and to keep the mods from rioting over not seeing any part of the millions of dollars the forum has...

How much $$$ does theymos pay you?
legendary
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March 31, 2014, 12:49:54 AM
#8
The question is:

could there be more mods, if they volunteer and abdicate the "mod wages"?

I would assume it's more a problem of finding people they trust, rather than fiscal issues.

On forum sites, taking on a mods is usually a...dubious process.
This. Money is not a factor in deciding whether we take on more moderators, since the pay is not supposed to be used as a living wage that can be depended on. The pay mainly exists so that there's less moderator turnover, because finding new mods that can be trusted is quite a bit of work. Well, that and to keep the mods from rioting over not seeing any part of the millions of dollars the forum has...
legendary
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nahtnam.com
March 25, 2014, 07:37:01 PM
#7
I understood mods are paid. So its obvious, why no new mods are added.

Leads me to the question: Are there any unpaid (subforum) moderators?

If no: Is there a chance the creation of a new position/job as "unpaid moderator" aka
"voluntarily non contract moderator" is possible?

I'm pretty sure they're paid pennies

Yeah, they stated it's not much. They all share a small cut from the advertising.

Is there a list of all staff members / mods etc?

That would still be a lot. I see ad spots go for 2 BTC PER DAY!
EFS
staff
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Crypto Swap Exchange
March 25, 2014, 07:00:31 PM
#6
Theymos clearly stated that Moderators are not employees.

The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. About 25% of ad income goes to the forum moderators as thanks for all of their work. (There are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees.) The rest is stored in the forum's treasury (verifiably), where it sits until the forum needs it.

You can see all staff on members list (sort by Position).

AFAIK if a moderator didn't write BTC address on signature or forum profile he can't get paid that month.
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