Topic: Are these posts deserve so much merits ??? - page 2. (Read 497 times)
So what, Admin will not do anything with above reported account. Moderator/amin should do some meaningful action against those and post it publicly,so In future members will fear of action for doing such type of merit trade.
Well I could give 50 merits to a post, but I can't conceive of one that is worth that much. I've only found half a dozen that I've awarded with 5. I think I gave 10 to seoinc, but that was for him to make some awards in the Spanish community.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
What post would be worth 50 merits?
Well, administrators should begin an algorithm for demeriting posts that have been overrated, it's a decentralized ecosystem after all. If we continue this way, we just might sink into the abyss of horror.
demeriting is a bit of a rocky road, and could cause even more abuse. A simple alternative is to remove any merit associated with a post deleted by a mod or the original poster.
Not everyone should be given the rights to demerit. I believe some within this community have been able to rise up in ranking in a fair and square manner. Mods have a way of tracking the performances of those with merits and those without. If a person doesn't use his merit well, or is suspected of crowning an alt/friendly account in order to level up, such an account and that of the 'abusive meriter' should be penalized by either lowering their ranking or depriving them from having same merit levels from the previous month.
In fact, I strongly believe that if the system had a way of de-ranking, people will become more cautious about how they behave in the forum - merit-wise and otherwise.
Well I could give 50 merits to a post, but I can't conceive of one that is worth that much. I've only found half a dozen that I've awarded with 5. I think I gave 10 to seoinc, but that was for him to make some awards in the Spanish community.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
What post would be worth 50 merits?
Well, administrators should begin an algorithm for demeriting posts that have been overrated, it's a decentralized ecosystem after all. If we continue this way, we just might sink into the abyss of horror.
demeriting is a bit of a rocky road, and could cause even more abuse. A simple alternative is to remove any merit associated with a post deleted by a mod or the original poster.
Well I could give 50 merits to a post, but I can't conceive of one that is worth that much. I've only found half a dozen that I've awarded with 5. I think I gave 10 to seoinc, but that was for him to make some awards in the Spanish community.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
What post would be worth 50 merits?
Well, administrators should begin an algorithm for demeriting posts that have been overrated, it's a decentralized ecosystem after all. If we continue this way, we just might sink into the abyss of horror.
Well I could give 50 merits to a post, but I can't conceive of one that is worth that much. I've only found half a dozen that I've awarded with 5. I think I gave 10 to seoinc, but that was for him to make some awards in the Spanish community.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
What post would be worth 50 merits?
I can think of two for sure:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.28 Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum! by Satoshi
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1643833 and in my opinion the best post on the entire forum: Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)
meriting garbage posts with 50 or 31 or 27 is a blatant merit abuse.
Yes that is clear, but that i can think of, they get no advantages whatsoever till they rank up and their merit history is always going to be visible.
These are blatant misuse of merits and they should be punished, maybe they're alt accounts of DT members and that's why they are not receiving any negative trust? nobody knows. meriting garbage posts with 50 or 31 or 27 is a blatant merit abuse.
The system will take care of itself over time, and it's not worth getting your feathers ruffled when you see huge merit grants. In addition, some of the most obvious abuse will still get the involved parties a tag from a DT member.
That is absolutely true, on the long run these cases will become rarer and disappear. In any case there is always that kick in the gut sensation when you see them.
Perhaps could it be taken into consideration to actually check just those people who actually rank up, instead of following up huge merit transactions alone?
I remember the hadling of this case was quite effective and easy:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-1st-hero-account-ranked-up-from-senior-cleary-an-abuse-alts-or-bought-4508271
Well that is why I think that no post in the ANN section should be able to receive any merits. It turns the whole merit system into a joke imho.
I'm also think in that way,
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So where can we just write request?
From the last week we have spoken about several and serious matters:
1.- The meta board being contaminated by banned requests and merit seekers, cryers, et al.
2.- The creation of a new kind of merit source.
3.- The serious discussion matter has been pointed before, if my memory serves me good, by AverageGlabella.
4.- The creation of a childboard to accounts issues (by Silent 26).
5.- ANN threads should not be awarded with merits...
So where can we just write request?
From the last week we have spoken about several and serious matters:
1.- The meta board being contaminated by banned requests and merit seekers, cryers, et al.
2.- The creation of a new kind of merit source.
3.- The serious discussion matter has been pointed before, if my memory serves me good, by AverageGlabella.
4.- The creation of a childboard to accounts issues (by Silent 26).
6.- The posts in the ANN threads should not count as activity
7.- System to be implemented to inquire and take actions against (at least large scale) merit abuse
8.- Merit source applicant should not award any merits for their thread just for appreciations.
9.- English language posts should not allowed in local boards( may be this is tricky one, but we need to think about why actually admins initiate local boards at the first place)
specially love to hearing from "Theymos". Seems like he is in some kind of inactive mode when it comes to the Merit abuse scenarios.
Well that is why I think that no post in the ANN section should be able to receive any merits. It turns the whole merit system into a joke imho.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
It's happening in ANN threads where actually most of the underworld Merit abusers still rocks without any punishment. Check these merit stats of chandra12. The way that member distribute his/her merits just like Newton's third law "every 50 Merits what you got should sent in 25 sMerits per post"
Well I could give 50 merits to a post, but I can't conceive of one that is worth that much. I've only found half a dozen that I've awarded with 5. I think I gave 10 to seoinc, but that was for him to make some awards in the Spanish community.
What post would be worth 50 merits?
What post would be worth 50 merits?
There should be some limit for members to give merit to another member for one post
There is--it's 50. Most members these days don't give out that many for the simple fact that only merit sources usually have that many sMerits. I've received quite a few sMerits since January, but I couldn't give 50 merits for a single post now if I wanted to, or if I waited until I'd gotten 100 merits. Note that I've "only" earned 445 merits since January, which translates to four 50-merit, lump-sum grants if I was so inclined to give them. People were able to do that early on when sMerits were airdropped, but I think these days it's become uncommon, and that's the beauty of the system.This is why Theymos has discouraged DT members from tagging suspected merit abusers. The system will take care of itself over time, and it's not worth getting your feathers ruffled when you see huge merit grants. In addition, some of the most obvious abuse will still get the involved parties a tag from a DT member.
I've just touched upon a similar topic in a thread i made a short time ago, where i have suggested there are things happening with senior members ASWELL as newbies.
While i stopped short of saying it, this indeed was one of the things that was at the forefront of my mind. I've seen this happen multiple times now and both the sender and the receiver are complicit in this and its BLATANT abuse of the system.
Don't get me wrong here, i know its only a tiny percentage of Sr Members, but i hope they are rightfully punished.
If you're going to be dishonest, then surely you'd be a little more subtle about it wouldn't you!
While i stopped short of saying it, this indeed was one of the things that was at the forefront of my mind. I've seen this happen multiple times now and both the sender and the receiver are complicit in this and its BLATANT abuse of the system.
Don't get me wrong here, i know its only a tiny percentage of Sr Members, but i hope they are rightfully punished.
If you're going to be dishonest, then surely you'd be a little more subtle about it wouldn't you!
Don't forget to include links. [image direct link]
Jayjay04 also sent 50 merits to pacman7331 for this post, which he used to send 27 merits to willdono - along with Jayjay04's other 50 merits - for this post.
Looks pretty suspicious to me.
Jayjay04 also sent 50 merits to pacman7331 for this post, which he used to send 27 merits to willdono - along with Jayjay04's other 50 merits - for this post.
Looks pretty suspicious to me.
yes I agree with your observation, they merited to those posts, which are not worth for so much merit.
Don't forget to include links. [image direct link]
Jayjay04 also sent 50 merits to pacman7331 for this post, which he used to send 27 merits to willdono - along with Jayjay04's other 50 merits - for this post.
Looks pretty suspicious to me.
Jayjay04 also sent 50 merits to pacman7331 for this post, which he used to send 27 merits to willdono - along with Jayjay04's other 50 merits - for this post.
Looks pretty suspicious to me.
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Here most of the members are writing with their best ability and get 1 or 2 merits for their post. Some members get 50 merits for one post from one person only, it is beyond my thinking...
There should be some limit for members to give merit to another member for one post
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Second, the post which has been received the merits more than 20 or any big no., that post should be checked by the admin members for their quality.
One more
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41965290
He will get 6 merits for saying "THANK YOU"
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Here most of the members are writing with their best ability and get 1 or 2 merits for their post. Some members get 50 merits for one post from one person only, it is beyond my thinking...
There should be some limit for members to give merit to another member for one post
or
Second, the post which has been received the merits more than 20 or any big no., that post should be checked by the admin members for their quality.
One more
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.41965290
He will get 6 merits for saying "THANK YOU"
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