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legendary
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June 01, 2017, 09:38:37 AM
#8
If you look at terms and conditions for most websites/merchants accepting Bitcoin - it actually doesn't seem very complicated: "Deposits are instant" or "They will reflect after approximately 15 minutes, sometimes up to an hour". These were inadequate even a year ago and certainly now with the increasingly long average waiting times.

I think you're right: people should be able to dive right in and use it, without needing to understand what the appropriate fee amount is. They shouldn't need to search for explorers to understand how much they are getting and which part was spent as fees.

I'm not saying Bitcoin tech is too complicated - quite the opposite. But usability can be improved a LOT. Trying to talk about the blockchain, miners, confirmations, mempool etc. is difficult enough to breakdown into simple English but you have to be in the shoes of a merchant trying to localise Bitcoin usage (in Malay, it is just horrible) to realise just what a challenge it can be.

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June 01, 2017, 08:26:25 AM
#7
Not true, 99% of all people involved in crypto can't even communicate in the society properly, I'm one of them. all we really care is the ability to keep our coins safe in our wallets, ability to do transactions without delays and dramas. I really don't care what happens behind the scenes all I care is to know my coins hold any value and that there are some people around the world willing to buy and sell to me with a reasonable price.
All I care is to know that I'm able to send bitcoins to any address and receive to any address but if one day I send some coins to someone and they say they didn't receive and my coins disappear somehow, that's when I kiss bitcoin good bye.
You might even have to find out what type of coins are accepted at which merchant or service where you are storing or using your coins. < These Hard forks and/or soft forks are causing a lot of confusion with people >  ^grrrrrrr^
Updates need to happen whether people find them convenient or not.  When nothing happens, demand grows too high and that's what pushes the mainstream away from decentralisation right into the hands of Vitalik Buterin.

Better that it happens now than when Bitcoin actually has adoption.
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June 01, 2017, 01:52:44 AM
#6
Not true, 99% of all people involved in crypto can't even communicate in the society properly, I'm one of them. all we really care is the ability to keep our coins safe in our wallets, ability to do transactions without delays and dramas. I really don't care what happens behind the scenes all I care is to know my coins hold any value and that there are some people around the world willing to buy and sell to me with a reasonable price.
All I care is to know that I'm able to send bitcoins to any address and receive to any address but if one day I send some coins to someone and they say they didn't receive and my coins disappear somehow, that's when I kiss bitcoin good bye.

Then my statements are true for you too. If you are worried about the security of your coins, then you should know where to store them and what coins to buy and to sell. By the look of things after the 1st of Aug 2017, you might have a Chain split with legacy coins and whatnot. < You will have to make choices on your existing coins & coins you are going to buy >

You might even have to find out what type of coins are accepted at which merchant or service where you are storing or using your coins. < These Hard forks and/or soft forks are causing a lot of confusion with people >  ^grrrrrrr^
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May 31, 2017, 03:21:19 PM
#5
Not true, 99% of all people involved in crypto can't even communicate in the society properly, I'm one of them. all we really care is the ability to keep our coins safe in our wallets, ability to do transactions without delays and dramas. I really don't care what happens behind the scenes all I care is to know my coins hold any value and that there are some people around the world willing to buy and sell to me with a reasonable price.
All I care is to know that I'm able to send bitcoins to any address and receive to any address but if one day I send some coins to someone and they say they didn't receive and my coins disappear somehow, that's when I kiss bitcoin good bye.
legendary
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May 31, 2017, 02:42:54 PM
#4
Ive been in the space for quite some time and am currently quite confused as to the current state of affairs regarding scaling. Can someone point me in the right direction?

Does the Bary Silbert agreement hold any weight?

If so, then why all this UASF talk?

Just imagine a newbie trying to grab hold of wtf is going on.
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May 31, 2017, 01:33:37 AM
#3
We're hitting a time where the average person wants to learn about cryptocurrencies in 24hrs while it has taken us years of building, understanding, and planning.

The good news is this transition is now happening to be able to adopt change on a mass scale and although it may seem complex for them all the kinks will work their way out soon enough leading to a seamless and understandable foundation.

The thing is people should not have to have such a steep learning curve to use this technology. The more choices you give them, the longer they will take to grasp the concept. Keep it simple and they will adopt it quicker. The developer should always be focused on what the customer/client wants and not what looks good or feels good to him or her. ^grrrrrr^

If you do make such complex changes, it must be well documented and widely distributed in the most simple explanation possible. Even long time Bitcoiners are struggling with the new suggestions being proposed. 

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May 30, 2017, 06:18:37 PM
#2
We're hitting a time where the average person wants to learn about cryptocurrencies in 24hrs while it has taken us years of building, understanding, and planning.

The good news is this transition is now happening to be able to adopt change on a mass scale and although it may seem complex for them all the kinks will work their way out soon enough leading to a seamless and understandable foundation.
legendary
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May 30, 2017, 01:55:51 AM
#1
Our standard answer to people saying that Bitcoin is too complicated used to be, " Bank customers do not need to know how the internet ledgers of a bank work, to use their service " but now with the introduction of things like UASF people have to approach their merchants and exchanges and services to figure out what services will be safe to use, depending on what route those services will be going with this scaling option.

Are we over complicating Bitcoin for non-technical users of this technology? < They have no clue what chain split and soft forks are, and should they be that involved? >

Our goal should be to make it very simple for Granny to understand and to grow adoption. ^hmmmmmm^

Imagine if the reserve bank issued 2 different types of $1 notes and one type of note was accepted at specific merchants and not at other. This will create a lot of confusion with the general public.

Example : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/6e25yx/im_investing_on_bitcoin_for_some_time_but_what/
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