Topic: Are we winning the "drug war"? - page 2. (Read 3433 times)
Just saw this.
yes, I am agreed.
Prisons are school for more Crime..... The Prison system has the oposite affect when it comes to drug use... Go in a user, come out with great dealer hookups......
Drugs should be legal, not because it's a waste of money, time, and energy, but because every individual should have sovereign rights on her or his body.
+1
I believe that we should not be tutors than we should let every person to decide. nobody is stupid, people know what they do when they smoke (60 cigaretes per day), drink (2 liter of votka), use marijuana or anything stronger. if people want to enjoy even they know they destroy themselves, solution is educative measures and not repressive measures.
believe it or not, I am almost 40 years old and I never saw any educative program against smoking (in the school, or anywhere else), drinking, using any kind of drugs. there is only news about making prisons full with people who just wanted to enjoy.
imagine student get beaten by cops after they catch him to smoke weed, then he finish in custody and in the prison several months, when he spend half year with prisoners he will listen whole day everyday only about criminality and he will adapt himself and become the same like they are, criminal in his head, when he goes out from the prison, he will just watch how to steal something. after several days he will become normal again. if he spends 2 years in the prison, he will stay criminal whole life.
in my country we say: with whom you are, that's what you will become. it means that most people adapt themselves in their community and they become the same like people around.
so, let people to enjoy, finish univeristy, find job and get good life, it is better than to make them criminal. nobody can stop people to enjoy, surely not in represive way, even if all drugs are destroyed, people will find plants (peyote) and drug themselves.
and for the end, yes, drug war is misused to finance right wing politicians and make ideoliogical war against socialism in latin america. and racist police don't touch hollywood white stars, they arrest massivly poor afro americans. american prisons became industry.
That is awesome.
With regards to marijuana, 2 is clearly false, 3 is clearly false, 1 is like your opinion man.
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Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
1) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
2) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
3) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
1) The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
2) The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
3) There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.
With regards to marijuana, 2 is clearly false, 3 is clearly false, 1 is like your opinion man.
Yea, I was waiting for ppl to reply about this. Messed up to the max.
Polis gave it to her, and showed the stupid behind DEA. I applause Polis.
Polis gave it to her, and showed the stupid behind DEA. I applause Polis.
LOL.... Dum twat...
What is more addictive? Crack or heroin ? Or marijuana ?
Well IMO its Marijuana because its BAD...... HAHA dum twat.... go work the harveys drive through where you belong
What is more addictive? Crack or heroin ? Or marijuana ?
Well IMO its Marijuana because its BAD...... HAHA dum twat.... go work the harveys drive through where you belong
Bahahahahahahaha...
Drug's are bad.. My job hard... Stop making me think...
Drug's are bad.. My job hard... Stop making me think...
lolololololololol
jobs are bad....My drugs are hard ...... stop stopping me thinking.
Bahahahahahahaha...
Drug's are bad.. My job hard... Stop making me think...
Drug's are bad.. My job hard... Stop making me think...
If "we" are indeed winning the "drug war" it might be because the "drug war" takes "second stage" to the "cryptocurrency war".
The "government" might "give up the drug war" to maintain its powerbase and take usefullness out of cryptocurrency.
The "government" might "give up the drug war" to maintain its powerbase and take usefullness out of cryptocurrency.
Here's one of my standard comments explaining the link between prohibition and violence:
The war on (some) drugs fuels violence because the “WAR”� on drugs IS violence. It’s the policy of sending men with guns to arrest the sellers of certain drugs and their customers and lock them in government cages. All of the other violence that surrounds the (non-alcohol, non-tobacco) drug trade is fundamentally a REACTION to that initial state-sponsored violence. Prohibition renders contracts unenforceable and makes it impossible for competitors to use the courts or the police to challenge intimidation or settle disputes. There are plenty of legal businesses that might love to “kill the competition,” but that only becomes a viable strategy under the black market conditions that prohibition creates. (Note that nobody from Coke or Pepsi has their decapitated corpse hung from a bridge as a result of the so-called “Cola Wars.”) Prohibition also raises the prices of illicit drugs and hence their profitability. (Econ 101: risk demands compensation.) This only increases sellers’ incentives to do “whatever it takes” to capture market share. Today you don’t see rival beer distributors engaging in deadly shoot-outs over turf, but you USED TO — during alcohol prohibition. Run a Google image search for “U.S. homicide rate graph” (not all together in quotes). Take a look at the murder rate before, after, and during alcohol prohibition (1919-1933). Then read some current news out of Mexico (pretty much any news will do). Spot a pattern? The use of state violence to address what is really a medical and health issue (as well as a matter of personal choice) has been a disaster. And it needs to stop.
The war on (some) drugs fuels violence because the “WAR”� on drugs IS violence. It’s the policy of sending men with guns to arrest the sellers of certain drugs and their customers and lock them in government cages. All of the other violence that surrounds the (non-alcohol, non-tobacco) drug trade is fundamentally a REACTION to that initial state-sponsored violence. Prohibition renders contracts unenforceable and makes it impossible for competitors to use the courts or the police to challenge intimidation or settle disputes. There are plenty of legal businesses that might love to “kill the competition,” but that only becomes a viable strategy under the black market conditions that prohibition creates. (Note that nobody from Coke or Pepsi has their decapitated corpse hung from a bridge as a result of the so-called “Cola Wars.”) Prohibition also raises the prices of illicit drugs and hence their profitability. (Econ 101: risk demands compensation.) This only increases sellers’ incentives to do “whatever it takes” to capture market share. Today you don’t see rival beer distributors engaging in deadly shoot-outs over turf, but you USED TO — during alcohol prohibition. Run a Google image search for “U.S. homicide rate graph” (not all together in quotes). Take a look at the murder rate before, after, and during alcohol prohibition (1919-1933). Then read some current news out of Mexico (pretty much any news will do). Spot a pattern? The use of state violence to address what is really a medical and health issue (as well as a matter of personal choice) has been a disaster. And it needs to stop.
The DEA is a military organization created by the executive branch and overseen by the President.
Want to see who is head of DEA? LoL. I am still pondering over this video. Grabbed it from norml.org.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFgrB2Wmh5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFgrB2Wmh5s
... But yes, the "war on drugs" is really a "war on society".
yes. War is a social behavior between people, not between people and an inanimate substance. War also implies there should be guns and violence and cool helicopters. Blood should be spilled and rights should be suspended. Why? I thought the problem was "Jim" is addicted to coke? He's ruining his life and the lives of people around him because he has a medical condition. Why not spend a lot less and offer free help getting off drugs? I don't think most people like Jim want to be junkies. If Jim instead chooses to steal to get drug money then lock him up for stealing, if he gets crazy and punches a toll booth attendant; book him for assault. But not for being a drug addict. This is what we do now for people addicted to the drug called alcohol.
The drug war is has been a disastrously expensive misadventure in dollars and the lives of American citizens. Surely we can do better than this.
Just imagine how violent things would get if caffeine was prohibited. The caffeine wars would make the current drug wars look like a picnic.
But yes, the "war on drugs" is really a "war on society".
But yes, the "war on drugs" is really a "war on society".
The government should protect me from other people, not myself. In my view drug use is a victimless "crime".
Some countries have more progressive drug policies, namely the Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
and Portugal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
Some countries have more progressive drug policies, namely the Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_the_Netherlands
and Portugal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_policy_of_Portugal
It's a waste of money, time, and energy better spent elsewhere.
Could not say it any better myself.
most violence is directly cause by enforcing prohibition... Cops beating a dude down for having a bag of weed or growing a few plants......
Where would all these enforcement jobs go?
Alcohol companies are one of the biggest supporters for the war on drugs....
Where would all these enforcement jobs go?
Alcohol companies are one of the biggest supporters for the war on drugs....
A lot more money through taxable sales would be made if we stopped this war on drugs and sold them with monitoring like alcohol and tobacco
poor silkroad/dealers/cartels 
It's a waste of money, time, and energy better spent elsewhere.
I disagree with this philosophy. Drugs should be legal, not because it's a waste of money, time, and energy, but because every individual should have sovereign rights on her or his body.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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