What I am saying is that when the people are disarmed they are at the mercy of criminals and tyrants who historically have killed FAR more people than the gun owning law-abiding public.
It's not rocket science. Read your history.
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Adolph. Hitler. Germany. Modern. Western. Country. Takes. Guns. Kills Millions. Defenseless People.
Wake. Up.
Nuff. Said.
are you seriously comparing Hitler to common people who own weapons ? Wake. Up.
Nuff. Said.
Adolph. Hitler. Germany. Modern. Western Country. Takes Guns from the pople. Government then kills Millions. Defenseless People.
Wake. Up.
Media bought and paid for by the very governments that would love to disarm the people.
Nuff. Said.
Wake. Up.
Media bought and paid for by the very governments that would love to disarm the people.
Nuff. Said.
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Not being American or having to live in America I can safely say that I am thankful I can send my child to school without worrying that they're going to get shot by some lunatic who had a collection of lethal weapons, yet as the lunatic was only 20 years old he still can't legally buy alcohol. Where is the sense in this?
I won't even address the logical fallacies in your argument, that is your responsibility to fix. Government can't stop lunatics from getting guns, lunatics don't care about laws. If there is a demand for something, the state cannot stop it. The market is greater than the state. The state made drugs illegal but can't even keep them out of prisons or schools.
You don't have to own or buy guns or associate with people who do. Just don't use the state monopoly of violence to FORCE/threaten/use violence against peaceful people(who aren't harming anyone or anyone's property) who chose to pursue their happiness in a way that you don't like. By doing so your the immoral aggressor. By using the political process, your stealing money at gunpoint from everyone to fund your aggression.
If you are anti gun go talk to your neighbors, start gun safety awareness campaign. Using the state to do your dirty work-well that's an immoral and spineless thing to do. If you believe in a cause, advocate for it privately, don't use violence to fund it and enforce it. People who aren't harming anyone or any property should be left alone. For example, if you make a law saying that high capacity magazines are banned and I happen to own one and am caught by one of you'r thugs with it, they will fine or imprison me. I was just minding my business, I didn't hurt anyone or any property. If I resist or refuse to pay, they will cage and assault me, If I refuse to be assaulted they will kill me. Where is the victim in all of this? Some of you who advocate politics don't understand the violence inherent in it.
I don't really have an opinion in relation to guns to be honest, I just find the American mentality towards the whole matter rather amusing. I have spent many an hour watching some of these pro gun people rattle on about why they 'need' guns - often laughing hysterically at some of the arguments they bring up. My original post was not implying that I am deadly against the ownership of guns - I'm not, I don't care. I was simply stating that I'm glad that I don't have to live in a country where so many people share such absurd, outdated and backward views.
And your country is that way because people used state violence to FORCE people who weren't hurting anyone or any property to submit to their tyranny or face increasing punishments up to death. That is not something I would be proud of. You have no problem with the police being armed? More people are killed by police than by random shooters. Any kind of "social progess" that is gained at the barrel of a gun is not real social progress.
Just as I said originally reading:
'And your country is that way because people used state violence to FORCE people who weren't hurting anyone or any property to submit to their tyranny or face increasing punishments up to death.'
For me is amusing -what has this got to do with owning a gun?
And being from the UK - most police are not armed so that takes care of that problem.
Also, unless I am not fully aware, I don't remember having to submit to tyranny for fear of my life. Again, perhaps somehow I have been implanted with a mind controlling device against my knowledge and hence have submitted to tyranny - all be it against my knowledge - I guess I will never know.
Spent a good hour in Cabela's in CT a year ago. There's no doubt about it, if I lived in the US, I'd be buying all sorts of guns. Shooting is fun.
I shoot and/or build guns most every weekend. Currently I'm putting together a duracoat project. I don't have the nerve to do my rem 700P. I guess I'll get a rem 870 and do some wild colors. Or maybe a cool derringer?
And yes, I buy with bitcoin whenever I can.
And yes, I buy with bitcoin whenever I can.
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Not being American or having to live in America I can safely say that I am thankful I can send my child to school without worrying that they're going to get shot by some lunatic who had a collection of lethal weapons, yet as the lunatic was only 20 years old he still can't legally buy alcohol. Where is the sense in this?
I won't even address the logical fallacies in your argument, that is your responsibility to fix. Government can't stop lunatics from getting guns, lunatics don't care about laws. If there is a demand for something, the state cannot stop it. The market is greater than the state. The state made drugs illegal but can't even keep them out of prisons or schools.
You don't have to own or buy guns or associate with people who do. Just don't use the state monopoly of violence to FORCE/threaten/use violence against peaceful people(who aren't harming anyone or anyone's property) who chose to pursue their happiness in a way that you don't like. By doing so your the immoral aggressor. By using the political process, your stealing money at gunpoint from everyone to fund your aggression.
If you are anti gun go talk to your neighbors, start gun safety awareness campaign. Using the state to do your dirty work-well that's an immoral and spineless thing to do. If you believe in a cause, advocate for it privately, don't use violence to fund it and enforce it. People who aren't harming anyone or any property should be left alone. For example, if you make a law saying that high capacity magazines are banned and I happen to own one and am caught by one of you'r thugs with it, they will fine or imprison me. I was just minding my business, I didn't hurt anyone or any property. If I resist or refuse to pay, they will cage and assault me, If I refuse to be assaulted they will kill me. Where is the victim in all of this? Some of you who advocate politics don't understand the violence inherent in it.
I don't really have an opinion in relation to guns to be honest, I just find the American mentality towards the whole matter rather amusing. I have spent many an hour watching some of these pro gun people rattle on about why they 'need' guns - often laughing hysterically at some of the arguments they bring up. My original post was not implying that I am deadly against the ownership of guns - I'm not, I don't care. I was simply stating that I'm glad that I don't have to live in a country where so many people share such absurd, outdated and backward views.
And your country is that way because people used state violence to FORCE people who weren't hurting anyone or any property to submit to their tyranny or face increasing punishments up to death. That is not something I would be proud of. You have no problem with the police being armed? More people are killed by police than by random shooters. Any kind of "social progess" that is gained at the barrel of a gun is not real social progress.
Never. I lost all my Bitcoins and firearms in a boating accident a while back.
Sounds familiar.
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Not being American or having to live in America I can safely say that I am thankful I can send my child to school without worrying that they're going to get shot by some lunatic who had a collection of lethal weapons, yet as the lunatic was only 20 years old he still can't legally buy alcohol. Where is the sense in this?
I won't even address the logical fallacies in your argument, that is your responsibility to fix. Government can't stop lunatics from getting guns, lunatics don't care about laws. If there is a demand for something, the state cannot stop it. The market is greater than the state. The state made drugs illegal but can't even keep them out of prisons or schools.
You don't have to own or buy guns or associate with people who do. Just don't use the state monopoly of violence to FORCE/threaten/use violence against peaceful people(who aren't harming anyone or anyone's property) who chose to pursue their happiness in a way that you don't like. By doing so your the immoral aggressor. By using the political process, your stealing money at gunpoint from everyone to fund your aggression.
If you are anti gun go talk to your neighbors, start gun safety awareness campaign. Using the state to do your dirty work-well that's an immoral and spineless thing to do. If you believe in a cause, advocate for it privately, don't use violence to fund it and enforce it. People who aren't harming anyone or any property should be left alone. For example, if you make a law saying that high capacity magazines are banned and I happen to own one and am caught by one of you'r thugs with it, they will fine or imprison me. I was just minding my business, I didn't hurt anyone or any property. If I resist or refuse to pay, they will cage and assault me, If I refuse to be assaulted they will kill me. Where is the victim in all of this? Some of you who advocate politics don't understand the violence inherent in it.
I don't really have an opinion in relation to guns to be honest, I just find the American mentality towards the whole matter rather amusing. I have spent many an hour watching some of these pro gun people rattle on about why they 'need' guns - often laughing hysterically at some of the arguments they bring up. My original post was not implying that I am deadly against the ownership of guns - I'm not, I don't care. I was simply stating that I'm glad that I don't have to live in a country where so many people share such absurd, outdated and backward views.
I don`t think he is for or against guns, but the post might pass off as amusing to some people who live outside of the USA.
It would pass off as amusing to some in the US as well. I'm in Canada and own a small collection of rifles and handguns. I also reload my own ammunition, so I'm frequently buying reloading supplies like primers, gunpowder and projectiles. My next purchase will probably be in a couple weeks. I plan on getting a Trijicon TR24G for one of my bullpup rifles, which is intended for 3Gun and short/medium range hunting.
I'd say that my collection of firearms and ammunition would be considered respectable, even by US standards, and I have friends that are in the same boat.
I have tossed the idea of accepting Bitcoin out to a few guys on the Canadian Gun Nutz forum but got no biters. I just keep a wallet address in my sig line in case anyone wishes to graciously donate bitcoin to help me buy more lead to keep my casting/reloading costs low for some of my high caliber fun...
I am rather curious about what province you are in.
To my knowledge (which is rather limited on the topic I admit), handguns are illegal to own.
Not that I care as long as the owner is an intelligent and VERY responsible person.
Living in Montreal, I don't think it would be easy for me to acquire a license or a few different type of guns... Reason why I got into traditional archery.
But if I was able to easily get my hands on some, I would love to have some Classics, such as a Mosin bolt action rifle, a PPSH41, STG44 and the good old AK47
In reality, I know I wont get any of them, it's just not in my environment nor would I get out of my way to get any of them.
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Not being American or having to live in America I can safely say that I am thankful I can send my child to school without worrying that they're going to get shot by some lunatic who had a collection of lethal weapons, yet as the lunatic was only 20 years old he still can't legally buy alcohol. Where is the sense in this?
I won't even address the logical fallacies in your argument, that is your responsibility to fix. Government can't stop lunatics from getting guns, lunatics don't care about laws. If there is a demand for something, the state cannot stop it. The market is greater than the state. The state made drugs illegal but can't even keep them out of prisons or schools.
You don't have to own or buy guns or associate with people who do. Just don't use the state monopoly of violence to FORCE/threaten/use violence against peaceful people(who aren't harming anyone or anyone's property) who chose to pursue their happiness in a way that you don't like. By doing so your the immoral aggressor. By using the political process, your stealing money at gunpoint from everyone to fund your aggression.
If you are anti gun go talk to your neighbors, start gun safety awareness campaign. Using the state to do your dirty work-well that's an immoral and spineless thing to do. If you believe in a cause, advocate for it privately, don't use violence to fund it and enforce it. People who aren't harming anyone or any property should be left alone. For example, if you make a law saying that high capacity magazines are banned and I happen to own one and am caught by one of you'r thugs with it, they will fine or imprison me. I was just minding my business, I didn't hurt anyone or any property. If I resist or refuse to pay, they will cage and assault me, If I refuse to be assaulted they will kill me. Where is the victim in all of this? Some of you who advocate politics don't understand the violence inherent in it.
I am an avid shooter, types hunting, competition and military. If you start to sell firearms accessories and supplies and even firearms for bitcoins, I and my business partner would be interested.
Mtnminer
Mtnminer
Thank you. By "interested" do you mean purchasing supplies? I would be initially offering the most basic and popular items, then expanding outward and taking on more risk as business increases.
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves.
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Not being American or having to live in America I can safely say that I am thankful I can send my child to school without worrying that they're going to get shot by some lunatic who had a collection of lethal weapons, yet as the lunatic was only 20 years old he still can't legally buy alcohol. Where is the sense in this?
The first thing repressive governments do is ban civilians from owning firearms. Here are just a few characters you may recognize:
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves. Governments routinely go rogue and attack their own people. Happens time and time again, even in supposedly "good" countries (Germany 1936, anyone?).
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Do yourself and your family a favor, get educated about firearms and self-defense, take some courses on the proper use of firearms, and allay your fears.
Fear of firearms is like fear of driving - once you try it and learn it is very freeing. But if you choose to remain ignorant and scared well then you loose.
I refuse to let anyone take away my natural born "god given" right to self defense.
Pol Pot
Adolph Hitler
Stalin
Hundreds of MILLIONS murdered by their own governments because they could not defend themselves. Governments routinely go rogue and attack their own people. Happens time and time again, even in supposedly "good" countries (Germany 1936, anyone?).
Make no mistake, the right to bear arms is the cornerstone of the free world.
Do yourself and your family a favor, get educated about firearms and self-defense, take some courses on the proper use of firearms, and allay your fears.
Fear of firearms is like fear of driving - once you try it and learn it is very freeing. But if you choose to remain ignorant and scared well then you loose.
I refuse to let anyone take away my natural born "god given" right to self defense.
For most countries, gun laws are astonishingly strict
In the USA too. They have laws (constitution) which makes it astonishingly strict against making laws against guns. How can you trust a government that wants to take your guns away? What good could that produce?
I'd say that my collection of firearms and ammunition would be considered respectable, even by US standards,
Respect. 
I don`t think he is for or against guns, but the post might pass off as amusing to some people who live outside of the USA.
It would pass off as amusing to some in the US as well. I'm in Canada and own a small collection of rifles and handguns. I also reload my own ammunition, so I'm frequently buying reloading supplies like primers, gunpowder and projectiles. My next purchase will probably be in a couple weeks. I plan on getting a Trijicon TR24G for one of my bullpup rifles, which is intended for 3Gun and short/medium range hunting.
I'd say that my collection of firearms and ammunition would be considered respectable, even by US standards, and I have friends that are in the same boat.
I have tossed the idea of accepting Bitcoin out to a few guys on the Canadian Gun Nutz forum but got no biters. I just keep a wallet address in my sig line in case anyone wishes to graciously donate bitcoin to help me buy more lead to keep my casting/reloading costs low for some of my high caliber fun...
Never. I lost all my Bitcoins and firearms in a boating accident a while back.
I have a concealed carry licence.
Why do you want to vote never, this thread is for people who do enjoy firearm sports not those that don't. I've added the option.
Where is the 'Never' option?
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