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Topic: Are you ready to fight for your rights? (Read 559 times)

newbie
Activity: 5
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October 27, 2018, 03:40:03 PM
#56
No I won't obey them, since Crypto is not a crime..
newbie
Activity: 70
Merit: 0
October 27, 2018, 10:33:31 AM
#55
The government will not prohibit you to buy or sell bitcoins. It would be stupid. They want ever prohibit anything what is connected with a big amount of money. They may start to control it, which is not bad, as for me.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
October 29, 2018, 12:41:55 PM
#54
yes, absolutly! I suppose in terms of the modern world people are the only resposible for their actions and should stand for their position.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
October 29, 2018, 10:45:15 AM
#53
Are we smart enough to know for ourselves, each of us individually, when we are exercising a right, and when we are exercising a wrong?

Cool
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
October 29, 2018, 10:44:08 AM
#52
Is this one of our rights?
To tell government and other people that they have no right to dictate to us what our rights are?

Cool
member
Activity: 1106
Merit: 11
Crypto in my Blood
October 27, 2018, 07:21:32 AM
#51
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
We need our rights to do that if the government prohibit we can't stay silent. But we know the Government uses always Policing force to handle any situation if we go against the government. Mainly in our Country.
jr. member
Activity: 44
Merit: 2
October 26, 2018, 03:38:39 PM
#50
I am ready to fight of course. If it has to do with my personal views, actions and as long it is not contrary to the constitution of the country. Why will someone then trample on my right?
jr. member
Activity: 76
Merit: 1
October 26, 2018, 11:12:39 AM
#49
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?

Sure, but don't forget about black markets. That will not be gone even if the government prohibits their citizens to stop patronizing bitcoins. Besides, what are they gonna do with people who break the law? Confiscate (read: STEAL) their cryptos? Make us pay $$$ amount of cryptos?
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
October 24, 2018, 08:09:28 AM
#48
I can't see how there could possibly be any control of crypto.. its only thru consent we jump thru all the KYC and AML polices when exchanging and cashing out.. If people stopped cashing out into fiat.. bitcoin would be bigger than it already is.. on the macro scale I think people need to start offering their own skills, and trades between each other using the bitcoin as the agreed store of value, and STOP cashing out...

If we all did that there would be not rights we would have to fight for.. it would be something unstoppable, and our rights would be automatically implied...

STOP CASHING OUT! find ways to use bitcoin as a value to trade with.. next time your window cleaner or Gardner comes to your house wanting payment tell him you only have bitcoin... then talk about the whole 'hype' get more people on board!! Cheesy

Can you please recommend some exchange, maybe freelance exchange, where people sell their skills for crypto?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
October 16, 2018, 12:07:35 PM
#47
Apply crypto directly to fighting for your rights. How? Start an altcoin that has a written contract embedded right in its core, so that when anybody uses it, he is accepting membership in a private membership association (PMA). Why? Here's why.

Government has only one basic purpose. This is to protect the public. Government is restrict by law, court case, and Constitution/Amendments, and court interpretations, to not mess with people in their privacy. Sure, government people often overstep their bounds. And the reason they often win when they do this, is that people acting privately don't know how to fight them privately.

But when you have a PMA, written out, with all your ducks in a row, your privacy is the thing that is upheld by government, against anybody (especially law enforcement and government officials) who attempt to mess with you for what you do in private. In other words, you can become the government over formal government officials at times.

This doesn't mean that you can form a PMA that allows you to harm anybody or damage his property. PMAs can only be formed for good things, to build up the people.

Why form an altcoin-PMA? Because of the reason Bitcoin was made by Satoshi in the first place... to fight the injustices of the fiat money system.

Back in the infancy of our country, a strong economy that was controlled by almost dictatorial, non-government people was essential for making the nation strong. We don't need to be part of that club any longer. It is helping the greedy rich to ruin us. And we know what happens when we try to start up a public, alternate form of money. Government regulates us to shut it down, and even puts us in prison for doing so.

But it would be different for an altcoin-PMA. Why? Look at the strength that public Bitcoin has... and the altcoins that exist... even though none of them are PMA. Add PMA to an altcoin, and government will require itself to remain hands-off, except where there is proof of harm or damage done among members of the PMA. And the members, themselves, will have to petition government for judgment. Government won't be able to simply jump in on their own, because it is private.

See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lupSn80_PY and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13OHj_2TOOA and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTq13vOxpZk.

Cool
copper member
Activity: 224
Merit: 14
October 16, 2018, 07:44:13 AM
#46
I can't see how there could possibly be any control of crypto.. its only thru consent we jump thru all the KYC and AML polices when exchanging and cashing out.. If people stopped cashing out into fiat.. bitcoin would be bigger than it already is.. on the macro scale I think people need to start offering their own skills, and trades between each other using the bitcoin as the agreed store of value, and STOP cashing out...

If we all did that there would be not rights we would have to fight for.. it would be something unstoppable, and our rights would be automatically implied...

STOP CASHING OUT! find ways to use bitcoin as a value to trade with.. next time your window cleaner or Gardner comes to your house wanting payment tell him you only have bitcoin... then talk about the whole 'hype' get more people on board!! Cheesy
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
October 16, 2018, 12:59:36 AM
#45
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
If our government prohibit and ban bitcoin here in our country , even if i want to fight my right , it will have no chance , i will just obey what our government will do . As a citizen of our country , i must do what is the government implemented for me to live freely and peacefully. I will not justify the government because as a normal citizen obeying the government is what people must do.

If there will be protests you will not even join them?


We suggest to create Anti-SEC EMERGENCY Center!
Many ICOs are not fair with their investors. In that case some problems with government can be understandable. But in those cases, when majority of investors are supporting projects, SEC has nothing to do with it!
Who are these guys? Selected by whom? Why majority of voters should dominate minority? What s about forum shopping?
full member
Activity: 462
Merit: 100
October 02, 2018, 08:06:55 AM
#44
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
well i cant even think how can i prove my right and fight on the government in they prevent what we do kn cryptocurrency investment or anyrhing we cant do nothing. The solution on this is find a prooper job and love without cryptocurrency. Or else save your money and go to the country that cryptocurrency is legalized to use.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1368
September 30, 2018, 10:42:29 AM
#43
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
If our government prohibit and ban bitcoin here in our country , even if i want to fight my right , it will have no chance , i will just obey what our government will do . As a citizen of our country , i must do what is the government implemented for me to live freely and peacefully. I will not justify the government because as a normal citizen obeying the government is what people must do.

The question is, do you have the right to select which country is your country?

If you are a slave, obey the laws of the slavery you are in. Things will work out much better for you that way. But if you can gain your freedom, do so, right? Find a better country, where there is freedom.

Cool
full member
Activity: 560
Merit: 105
September 29, 2018, 08:44:09 PM
#42
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
If our government prohibit and ban bitcoin here in our country , even if i want to fight my right , it will have no chance , i will just obey what our government will do . As a citizen of our country , i must do what is the government implemented for me to live freely and peacefully. I will not justify the government because as a normal citizen obeying the government is what people must do.
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
September 29, 2018, 01:39:48 PM
#41
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?
we should  follow the govt orders regarding this  .
If the government makes the law prohibiting the usage of bitcoins, then as law abiding  citizens we should adhere to the rules of the government or we can go underground and use bitcoins but dying for something that the law seems illegal isn’t the right way to go.

Yes, it means that it is important to protect crypto from unfriendly regulation, rather than just sell it, if regulation comes!
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
September 29, 2018, 01:38:19 PM
#40
Nah. I mean improvement won't come if we just become a holed up guy scared of seeing the sun right? Besides, the government sees crypto as a threat is because they have no handle to it, and are afraid that it might replace their financial government sooner or later. So I mean, lets fight it out and see who lasts

True. Financial decentralization and bringing back control overl finance to the people is first step. Next step is political system, which should be affected by cryptocurrencies in a decentralized way.
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
September 29, 2018, 01:37:07 PM
#39
I don't think if the government bans it, and what is certain is that in the future it will be prohibited to have another way to stay in the world of cryptocurrency.

What is sure that there will be different laws in different countries and business will follow the laws of the best countries, but countries with not the best laws will try to restrict such businesses and their owners on their territories anyway...
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
September 29, 2018, 01:35:44 PM
#38
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?

one think you can be sure.

"dont count on others from the cryptomovement to help you"

if 95% of the world will become national banking cartels again,

all cryptos in 5% left will be very valuable.

so expect no support form other icos.

why not to support each other in terms of politics?
member
Activity: 248
Merit: 12
Voronkov Ventures accelerator of pre-seed projects
September 29, 2018, 01:33:18 PM
#37
If tomorrow government will prohibit you from  selling/buying bitcoins and doing anything with crypto, will you obey and do what other people say to you?

one think you can be sure.

"dont count on others from the cryptomovement to help you"

if 95% of the world will become national banking cartels again,

all cryptos in 5% left will be very valuable.

so expect no support form other icos.

Rather. make your altcoin to be accessible only to people who are members of your "private membership association" that owns your altcoin - see the video at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46044822. This way it is entirely outside of government control. After all, that is what is happening here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-second-confederacy-5035677, but without tokens as well as with tokens.

Cool

You are outside of government control only if you are anonymous, or out of the land they control.
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