Makes sense, right?
Think of every world leader across the globe, all of them got vaccinated (including Mr. Trump who once suggested vaccines cause autism, ha). So the vaccine is 95% effective, that means just statistically at least one or two world leaders, if infected, should get COVID even after the vaccine. Nothing to see here.
Topic: Argentinian president tests positive to covid-19 after being vaccinated (Read 449 times)
April 18, 2021, 04:14:20 AM
April 16, 2021, 07:21:00 PM
A couple of Covid-19 vaccines have been produced and distributed already, but sentiments still abound amongst the populace as to if they should or should not be vaccinated, and with the latest development, I think those sentiments surely must have grown stronger as Argentinian president Alberto Fernandez has tested positive to Covid-19 despite having being vaccinated with the Russian-made Sputnik V vaccine early on in the year.
What implications do you think will arise from this news? Will it dampen the believe of people in the efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines, and will it also strengthen the arguments of anti-vaxxers that natural immunity could actually be superior to that of vaccine immunity?
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/04/americas/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html
What implications do you think will arise from this news? Will it dampen the believe of people in the efficacy of Covid-19 vaccines, and will it also strengthen the arguments of anti-vaxxers that natural immunity could actually be superior to that of vaccine immunity?
Source: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/04/04/americas/argentina-alberto-fernndez-covid-19-sputnik-vaccine-intl-latam/index.html
Is this a coincidence ?
Pakistan Prime Minister Imran Khan tests positive for COVID two days after being vaccinated
The vaccine was supposed to prevent against the covid-19 or was it the other way around
April 16, 2021, 11:39:35 AM
Argentinian president tests positive to covid-19 after being vaccinated
No big deal. He just became one of millions of super-spreaders. They should be called super-manure-spreaders. Why? Because they are simply the first stage of the wickedness the medical and Big Pharma have planned next.
No big deal. He just became one of millions of super-spreaders. They should be called super-manure-spreaders. Why? Because they are simply the first stage of the wickedness the medical and Big Pharma have planned next.
Thanks to the vax, the prez has also been turned into an asymptomatic carrier where the viruses can linger and mutate more efficiently.
Vaccinated people should be quarantined...until they die of 'natural causes' a little while from now. They should self-quarantine for the sake of others. Not only will the diseases they culture 'kill Granny', but also the grand-kids.
And the people who developed the 'vaccine' should be quarantined in a prison all their own, along with those who supported them... like most of government.
April 16, 2021, 01:24:21 AM
Argentinian president tests positive to covid-19 after being vaccinated
No big deal. He just became one of millions of super-spreaders. They should be called super-manure-spreaders. Why? Because they are simply the first stage of the wickedness the medical and Big Pharma have planned next.
No big deal. He just became one of millions of super-spreaders. They should be called super-manure-spreaders. Why? Because they are simply the first stage of the wickedness the medical and Big Pharma have planned next.
Thanks to the vax, the prez has also been turned into an asymptomatic carrier where the viruses can linger and mutate more efficiently.
Vaccinated people should be quarantined...until they die of 'natural causes' a little while from now. They should self-quarantine for the sake of others. Not only will the diseases they culture 'kill Granny', but also the grand-kids.
April 15, 2021, 03:14:05 PM
That point aside, I don’t like the slippery slope we’re walking. People talking about vaccine passports and other stupid things. If you bend over now, it won’t be long before they expect us all to take annual flu shots in order to be allowed outside.
I second your points, but don't you think the government are also in a dilemma, even a trilemma with the situation at hand, if vaccine shots are left for volunteers, then quite a lot of people may be skeptical about it all and thus, not get vaccinated, and as such, the virus prolly can't be brought under control, as quite a large number of people have to be vaccinated for some sort of control to be possible.I'm not suggesting or in support of 'vaccine ID's' to be free to move or do certain things, but I think it's only possibly going to be put in place to prolly encourage more people to get vaccinated, it's a critical point we're in at the moment you know.
April 15, 2021, 02:53:34 PM
This is becoming so common now, that it isn't even news. I really can't understand why people allow themselves to be vaccinated. The vaccines are so useless, that they are saying you need to have two or three different ones now. I'd rather keep away from the lot, and rely on the natural immunity that has worked for me for over 60 years.
That point aside, I don’t like the slippery slope we’re walking. People talking about vaccine passports and other stupid things. If you bend over now, it won’t be long before they expect us all to take annual flu shots in order to be allowed outside.
One thing I am always amazed by is how quickly scared people are willing to throw away their freedoms.
If you want to watch a video with a ton of great points, statistics, and other videos inside, watch DANGLING THE CARROT - https://www.bitchute.com/video/AUL8M8GRm95E/. It's about an hour and 46 minutes.
April 14, 2021, 07:24:07 PM
This is becoming so common now, that it isn't even news. I really can't understand why people allow themselves to be vaccinated. The vaccines are so useless, that they are saying you need to have two or three different ones now. I'd rather keep away from the lot, and rely on the natural immunity that has worked for me for over 60 years.
That point aside, I don’t like the slippery slope we’re walking. People talking about vaccine passports and other stupid things. If you bend over now, it won’t be long before they expect us all to take annual flu shots in order to be allowed outside.
One thing I am always amazed by is how quickly scared people are willing to throw away their freedoms.
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April 14, 2021, 06:08:48 PM
Ever since the creation of the vaccine which we see some government official giving on the TV which most of them didn't receive the vaccine(have watched a video that proof it), I always advise people not to trust the vaccine and should practise good hygiene with exercises.
What I read about the Argentina president make me detest the vaccine more and more because what the medical personal said is that the vaccine will produce anti-covid body.
What I read about the Argentina president make me detest the vaccine more and more because what the medical personal said is that the vaccine will produce anti-covid body.
April 14, 2021, 04:52:23 PM
The FDA shut down the Johnson & Johnson vaccine today, 'cause it was killing too many people from the blood clots.
TOO MANY PEOPLE?!?! How many is too many? A thousand? A hundred? Ten?
Why did they even let the vaccines out without safety studies?
Maybe J&J didn't reach all the way down into Argentina. Lol.
I've also heard that news and the first thought that came to my mind was the other vaccine made by Astra Zeneca, some reported case also had blood clots. TOO MANY PEOPLE?!?! How many is too many? A thousand? A hundred? Ten?
Why did they even let the vaccines out without safety studies?
Maybe J&J didn't reach all the way down into Argentina. Lol.
April 13, 2021, 06:40:54 PM
The FDA shut down the Johnson & Johnson vaccine today, 'cause it was killing too many people from the blood clots.
TOO MANY PEOPLE?!?! How many is too many? A thousand? A hundred? Ten?
Why did they even let the vaccines out without safety studies?
Maybe J&J didn't reach all the way down into Argentina. Lol.
TOO MANY PEOPLE?!?! How many is too many? A thousand? A hundred? Ten?
Why did they even let the vaccines out without safety studies?
Maybe J&J didn't reach all the way down into Argentina. Lol.
April 13, 2021, 01:00:16 PM
I can prolly understand why covid-19 vaccine distribution is pertinent, and that's cause it can possibly reduce significantly the number of people that run the risk of contracting the virus, but my argument is that if more people after taking the vaccine still continue to test positive, then the efficacy of the virus could be questioned; I know the vaccines aren't 100% effective, but they ought to be at least over 90% effective, thus this positive cases after vaccination should be in the minority.
April 13, 2021, 10:57:43 AM
This is becoming so common now, that it isn't even news. I really can't understand why people allow themselves to be vaccinated. The vaccines are so useless, that they are saying you need to have two or three different ones now. I'd rather keep away from the lot, and rely on the natural immunity that has worked for me for over 60 years.
April 13, 2021, 03:33:46 AM
News say that according to health expert that vaccines does not guarantee of not getting infected again with the virus, see like in the case of these Argentinian President to think that they have already in high position that can acquire the best medicine this is the strong indication that nothing is exempted today from this virus even if you are vaccinated.
April 12, 2021, 02:47:38 AM
It's yet unclear which variant the Argentine President got, but I would bet it's the Brazilian one.
The current vaccines (and immunity from previous infection) provide only partial protection against the newer variants, especially the Brazilian one.
That's why a second booster of the vaccine will be needed, which should cover the latest mutations in the new variants.
The current vaccines (and immunity from previous infection) provide only partial protection against the newer variants, especially the Brazilian one.
That's why a second booster of the vaccine will be needed, which should cover the latest mutations in the new variants.
Alberto Fernández received the first dose of Sputnik V two months ago, so he should have been immune to the virus. BTW, the vaccine manufacturers don't claim that they are 100% effective. Clinical trials have measured the efficiency at 91.8%. So there is always a small chance of those who are vaccinated with Sputnik V getting CoVID 19. But the symptoms should be mild, as they already have the antibodies in their body. And in case the vaccines are less effective against the P.1 strain, then it is a worrying sign.
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More than 650,000 people in Argentina have received both scheduled shots of the vaccine and only about 1,000 of those have been found to be infected more than 14 days after the final dose, according to national health statistics.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/putin-calls-argentine-leader-covid-sputnik-shot-76883180
April 11, 2021, 04:55:33 PM
I don't know what to say that it will be out on its own. It keeps on mutating and there are other newer variants that are stronger than the first one that we did, stronger in a way that infects people faster than it can. But I agree with you that they must perfect the vaccine and be it 100% efficient for most of the variants and can be manufactured quickly to supply it to every country.
To "PERFECT" a vaccine
(1) there must be no possible side effect or even just a negligible side effect.
(2) Given enough time to be studied and tested for different kind of effects in the body 4 years minimum
(3) The virus stopped from mutating, for it to be studied and have a vaccine for the existing variants.
Notes, as the virus mutates, you can't just ignore that the VIRUS ITSELF EVOLVE, thus the study from the minor viruses are minor. But take a deep breathe as study shown that the vaccine works for the other variants.
P.S.
As you are vaccinated, and you are infected by the virus, chances are that you don't need to worry about your lungs, oxygen level as it will be just like 3 days of natural flu and you're already good to go.
3. The virus itself is mutating because it's going through those people who haven't vaccinated but having a herd immunity, this will reduce it.
I guess with many who have already vaccinated, we'll be getting the herd immunity and this will reduce the increase of infected cases and soon it will dry off until we have fully won against it or if it remains existing, there's already a vaccine that's perfect to cure it.
April 11, 2021, 07:01:56 AM
I don't know what to say that it will be out on its own. It keeps on mutating and there are other newer variants that are stronger than the first one that we did, stronger in a way that infects people faster than it can. But I agree with you that they must perfect the vaccine and be it 100% efficient for most of the variants and can be manufactured quickly to supply it to every country.
To "PERFECT" a vaccine
(1) there must be no possible side effect or even just a negligible side effect.
(2) Given enough time to be studied and tested for different kind of effects in the body 4 years minimum
(3) The virus stopped from mutating, for it to be studied and have a vaccine for the existing variants.
Notes, as the virus mutates, you can't just ignore that the VIRUS ITSELF EVOLVE, thus the study from the minor viruses are minor. But take a deep breathe as study shown that the vaccine works for the other variants.
P.S.
As you are vaccinated, and you are infected by the virus, chances are that you don't need to worry about your lungs, oxygen level as it will be just like 3 days of natural flu and you're already good to go.
April 10, 2021, 03:17:13 PM
Right! Viruses like Covid only last for about a year and a half. When you add masks and lockdowns, you might be able to extend it for another half year. That's why the medical must work fast with the vaccine. If they don't, Covid will be gone before they have a chance to make good use of it. As it is, they just might be able to say that they eradicated Covid, as it goes away on its own. It's all about using the natural timing of the virus in the most advantageous way to make some money.
I don't know what to say that it will be out on its own. It keeps on mutating and there are other newer variants that are stronger than the first one that we did, stronger in a way that infects people faster than it can. But I agree with you that they must perfect the vaccine and be it 100% efficient for most of the variants and can be manufactured quickly to supply it to every country. April 10, 2021, 01:25:33 PM
Its not shocking TBH.
The studies regarding COVID Vaccines really shows that you are not 100% immune from the virus once vaccinated. But as soon as you got the virus after being vaccinated, the effects would be minimal, it will be like a simple flu that will go right away after a 2 or 3 days.
The studies regarding COVID Vaccines really shows that you are not 100% immune from the virus once vaccinated. But as soon as you got the virus after being vaccinated, the effects would be minimal, it will be like a simple flu that will go right away after a 2 or 3 days.
April 10, 2021, 11:23:16 AM
Countries who thought that they are now free from the virus are now facing the worse situation, maybe they vaccinated people but only one new strain unnoticed can put the complete country in danger zone and getting infected again.
It's early days, so not much data on vaccines vs variants yet... but even if a vaccine is ineffective against a variant, it is far quicker to modify the vaccine than it is to create an entirely new vaccine from a standing start. Variants will no doubt be a problem, but vaccines will be effective against some variants, and should be able to modified relatively quickly to cope with resistant strains. We're in a much better place than we were.
April 09, 2021, 07:26:23 PM
Internet research will show you that professionals answer both ways about vitamin D. Some say that 100,000 units a day for a period of time won't harm you. Others don't want you to take more than one caplet.
Dr. Linus Pauling found that 5 grams of vitamin C + 2 grams of Lysine daily, will cure you from heart disease. Later, he and another doctor added Proline to the formula. So, vitamin C won't do anything but help. A tiny bit of added zinc is all you need for virus protection.
However, whenever you start taking nutritionals on your own, start with low doses, and work up. Stop if you get an allergic or adverse reaction, and do more research.
Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks for educating me about that.Dr. Linus Pauling found that 5 grams of vitamin C + 2 grams of Lysine daily, will cure you from heart disease. Later, he and another doctor added Proline to the formula. So, vitamin C won't do anything but help. A tiny bit of added zinc is all you need for virus protection.
However, whenever you start taking nutritionals on your own, start with low doses, and work up. Stop if you get an allergic or adverse reaction, and do more research.
Doesn't this ring a bell! That there could be something wrong about every vaccine being produced under this circumstances or rush towards being the first company to produce the most effective drug.
Here is another thing, taking another vaccine as a booster of some sort for the previous doesn't really add up to me because, all these things are going into the body to stay there and would come up with some sort of effect from the reactions of the various composite compounds around there active sites.
I'm not against vaccination but at the moment, I'm still scared because, the available is yet to be perfected.
They have to rush on making one to at least reduce the implication of the virus. There are studies and tests that were made for it and they've approved it based on their scientifical findings that it's working and helping to recover those infected ones.Here is another thing, taking another vaccine as a booster of some sort for the previous doesn't really add up to me because, all these things are going into the body to stay there and would come up with some sort of effect from the reactions of the various composite compounds around there active sites.
I'm not against vaccination but at the moment, I'm still scared because, the available is yet to be perfected.
Right! Viruses like Covid only last for about a year and a half. When you add masks and lockdowns, you might be able to extend it for another half year. That's why the medical must work fast with the vaccine. If they don't, Covid will be gone before they have a chance to make good use of it. As it is, they just might be able to say that they eradicated Covid, as it goes away on its own. It's all about using the natural timing of the virus in the most advantageous way to make some money.
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