Topic: Argentinian president tests positive to covid-19 after being vaccinated - page 2. (Read 440 times)

The Brazil strain is killing people who had had the other strain already, it hits much harder and in half the time. If any country makes the mistake of lifting bio measures such as mask use or distancing, they are going to be hit REAL HARD.

BADecker we had a dead in my living room. STFU already.

Yeah, I'll do that. Thanks for educating me about that.
They have to rush on making one to at least reduce the implication of the virus. There are studies and tests that were made for it and they've approved it based on their scientifical findings that it's working and helping to recover those infected ones.

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There is misinformation with the vaccines and  especially with the Russian one, this vaccines makes the immune system act in a better way with the contagion of the virus, so the side effects are less and gives better probabilities of success.

The vaccines that exist can be more effective than others in "fight" the virus the moment you are infected and avoid complex symptoms such as low oxygen in the blood and therefore the risks of dying.

The (any) Russian vaccine does not prevent you from getting infected, it helps the immune system to fight it efficiently.

Doesn't this ring a bell! That there could be something wrong about every vaccine being produced under this circumstances or rush towards being the first company to produce the most effective drug.
Here is another thing, taking another vaccine as a booster of some sort for the previous doesn't really add up to me because, all these things are going into the body to stay there and would come up with some sort of effect from the reactions of the various composite compounds around there active sites.
I'm not against vaccination but at the moment, I'm still scared because, the available is yet to be perfected.

Internet research will show you that professionals answer both ways about vitamin D. Some say that 100,000 units a day for a period of time won't harm you. Others don't want you to take more than one caplet.

Dr. Linus Pauling found that 5 grams of vitamin C + 2 grams of Lysine daily, will cure you from heart disease. Later, he and another doctor added Proline to the formula. So, vitamin C won't do anything but help. A tiny bit of added zinc is all you need for virus protection.

However, whenever you start taking nutritionals on your own, start with low doses, and work up. Stop if you get an allergic or adverse reaction, and do more research.

It's yet unclear which variant the Argentine President got, but I would bet it's the Brazilian one.
The current vaccines (and immunity from previous infection) provide only partial protection against the newer variants, especially the Brazilian one.
That's why a second booster of the vaccine will be needed, which should cover the latest mutations in the new variants.

That's a lot. I'm no medical expert though.
But another way is just to strengthen your physical body, immune system(I don't know about the doses you've given) and have a proper hygiene while staying at home.

You'll know that they made it when each person in the country starts taking about 30,000 units of vitamin D a day, along with about 3 grams of vitamin C + zinc.

But for those countries that I've mentioned, they really survived and eradicated the virus. But too bad that you're right, there are still plenty of countries that haven't overcome the virus.
Well, that soon shall pass and everyone has to follow and help to eradicate the virus by following the protocols and not being selfish but to respect that they're also living with other people who fears the virus.

Argentinian president tests positive to covid-19 after being vaccinated


No big deal. He just became one of millions of super-spreaders. They should be called super-manure-spreaders. Why? Because they are simply the first stage of the wickedness the medical and Big Pharma have planned next.

Countries who thought that they are now free from the virus are now facing the worse situation, maybe they vaccinated people but only one new strain unnoticed can put the complete country in danger zone and getting infected again.

They've completely eradicated it, another news is from Israel that they might remove face mask outdoors and they're preparing for it. They've won it because they've fully vaccinated their citizens and everyone cooperated with it. Of course they're aware of the possible next wave but if they've entirely eradicated it, they only have to get to the measures of their borders and people who would come in to them to still check and do quarantines if necessary.

I'm not here to defend Sputnik V, but none of vaccines can guarantee 100% protection. For example, Sputnik V is 91.6% effective. So, it's still possible to get infected, but vaccine protects from serious forms of disease and helps to recover more easy.

I don't know about all vaccines, but I read that Pfizer vaccine is effective against all so far discovered strains of virus.
But what is possible, people who got vaccine in early phase, their immunity will be gone untill majority of population will get vaccinated.

There is no second wave in many countries but my question is whether they are yet to face or the completely eradicated it? The answer is they are also at the risk of facing the second wave because people who got vaccinated for the early strain may have the chance to get infected by the new strain or atleast they can be a transact the virus from one to another place.

It's a worrisome development to tell you the truth, honestly. It will further increase anxiety and prove the vaccine skeptics right that taking a covid vaccine is of no good. Besides, I think the so much secrecy coming from the Chinese government on the vaccine from China tells me something is wrong with the whole vaccine thing. For instance, why would China coerce people going into China to take only the Chinese vaccine without which they're subjected to horrendous experience getting visas.

Well, my elementary knowledge (that's putting it mildly, any way) on vaccine tells me that once it's administered it introduces a pseudonym version of the disease it intends to prevent by alerting the body that it already has it and preventing the real disease from coming in. Except where an administered vaccine fails, otherwise the disease has no ability to effect the body again.

Actually, it will turn the belief of the people into knowledge of what is really going on. The question is, do they really care?

I don't think that there's any wave going to those countries. They've managed to gain and order the first batches of the vaccines and that's why they're going back to the normal.
If ever there will be some recorded cases, it isn't that much compare to the other countries that are experiencing 2nd and 3rd wave.

Or those countries are yet to face their second wave? Look at what is happening in Brazil and India like companies, they also tried the vaccination but it seems not working well talking about the particular person who got vaccinated had been tested positive means the belief will get lower for sure.

The efficacy rates only tells how much percentage it is that's likely going to work. They have classified it from mild conditions to severe and it changes based from the range of the age that the person that will take the vaccine. They're not really useless, who would ever say that and wants to get vaccinated is bias. Look at the countries that have immediately done their mass vaccination, they're completely and near back to their old lives.

  The example with HIV is not entirely successful, since the virus mutates all the time and its vaccination is not yet possible.  (do not confuse with AIDS, it is no longer a virus, but a disease).  But we can talk about such a disease as smallpox.
  Now you will not meet him, but earlier it was a big problem, which was solved thanks to vaccination.  Vaccines not only reduce the severity of the disease, they prevent the development of the disease.  If a person is vaccinated against smallpox, and after that he will have contact with an infected person, then the chance of his infection is minimal.  Of course it is, but thanks to worldwide vaccination, smallpox has been defeated.  
  The vaccine is not a barrier that blocks the entry of the virus.  
  A vaccine is killed or live microorganisms, their components (possibly chemical vaccines), which, when introduced into the body, cause the production of antibodies and memory cells by immune cells.  After vaccination, immunity develops (its duration depends individually on the vaccine) and, upon contact with the original viruses, the antibodies fight the antigens of the virus.  Not to be confused with sera, when ready-made antibodies are injected into a person.
   Of course, the strength of immunity during vaccination of adults and children depends on the state of the body's immune system.
   As for the Sputnik V vaccine, it consists of two components, each of which includes a recombinant adenoviral vector based on the human adenovirus.  If you skip all molecular biology, then after the vaccine is injected, the vector gene enters human cells, as a result of which they produce S-protein in response to which antibodies to this protein are produced in the host's body (inoculated).  The introduction of the second component of the vaccine promotes the production of memory cells and the formation of a more complete immunity.  But the problem is that the virus also mutates, the structure of its membrane and proteins changes, which can cause the disease, after vaccination.  And of course, the initial state of the immune system plays an important role (it is difficult to predict whether the required amount of antibodies will be released).
  Another issue is preclinical and clinical trials of the vaccine, which were carried out in a very accelerated mode (judging from the results of 3 phases of trials).
  But it’s impossible to invent an ideal placebo in two years.  In my opinion, you shouldn't be afraid of vaccinations.  I myself want to be vaccinated, but in our city now it is not even there, only military personnel are vaccinated. I will digress a little from the topic, but I want to recommend that you do not especially ignore the vaccination schedule by age)