Topic: Arizona moves to repel abortion ban but Trump could make it US wide (Read 483 times)

That, and their written platform which declares that:

1. Abortion is, unequivocally, murder.

2. Therefore the president should do everything in his power to stop this "murder".

3. The next US president should have powers far exceeding that of any US president before him.

4. The next US president can and should use the power of the Federal government to criminalize abortions in all 50 states.


It's very simple:

* If you want abortion to be illegal across the US, and illegal to leave the US in order to get an abortion, then vote for Trump.

* If you want the laws to stay the same as they are and have been for the last 50 years, vote for Biden.

Neither of them. You should believe in facts: Republican states have moved into effectively abortion bans. Trump has a record of breaking his promises, so the fact that he says something means little in terms of guarantees, but the fact that the Supreme Court has repelled a decades long ruling and many Evangelists and Methodist support Trump should give you a hint.

Who should we believe, Donald Trump or kamala Harris? This is politics and every other presidential aspirant has made promises too. Why should we not believe him and believe others? No one should have 100% confidence in any politician because they are all thesame. Its high time we the voters become wise and not allow anyone tell us who to vote for or not. The past records of these aspirants are there, going through it we would know who has kept to his past promises and who deviated from the original plan. Choose the one who has tried in the past and drum your support for them. Kamala Harris is not a Saint either, she is a politician and would do anything to ensure her favorite candidate wins.

The only thing you have to consider is the mother's decision. It is her risk, her choice and you do not have a say on her life. Get that into your head or go live in Saudi Arabia. Women have their right to decide on their bodies not you, not your "consideration", not your "god" nor whatever wrong stuff got into your head. Women choose, you have nothing to say.

I think justifying this abortion issues as an event of breaking the laws would make the law more effective and Influential if the government focuses more on the executor. I mean the individuals who're engaged on the abortion exercises as professions of carrying on the operation of aborting the child in the mothers womb. Then before the law also holds the pregnancy bearer.
Definitely if there's no professionals who carries on the events, individuals would have no choice than keeping the baby or rather men and women will be more careful to avoid unwanted pregnancies.

Yes all what your saying is right, going into sexual intercourse party involved since the thought is generated from the heart before manifestation even the abortion such people who have at first conclude to take a preventive measure with the aid of contraceptive, as prevent, temporary tablet that won't allow it to take place before or after the sex , or could even make use if the so called condom, the abort a full grown fetus in not just ideal but murderer.

Just that in the period where politics and campaign is thrown over board to the public many rumors and fake news to run down opponents is always their by people who are not supportive to ones agenda but if truly trump said it I don't see anything wrong but seeking means if avoiding much loss if women during the process of abortions.

The Supreme Court has done its job by clearing the path for Congress to make abortion, contraception, IVF, and even inter-racial marriage (seriously, read the Dobbs decision) a crime punishable as murder.

All that is required is a Republican majority in House, the Senate and Trump to be president, and it's the law--and there is nothing the current Supreme Court would do about it since they already made it known that all of this is perfectly in line with the US Constitution.

Or maybe it won't even require Congress?

Understand that right now, the only reason the abortion pill isn't banned in all 50 states is because the Biden administration fought against the ridiculous lawsuit to stop it (the one that lost in the Supreme Court last week in a 7-0 unanimous decision).

All Trump's administration will have to do to ban most abortions in all 50 states is allow one of these ridiculous lawsuits to prevail by failing to defend against them.

And can you imagine a future Trump administration actively defending a woman's right to choose? I sure can't.

Trump's supporters have, for decades now, made their position perfectly clear: they believe abortion is murder. They therefore believe that doctors who perform abortions are murderers. And women who have abortions are murderers. And people who help women travel to another State or another country in order to safely have an abortion are murderers.

And perhaps people, like say the handful of mining companies who control over 51% of the Bitcoin hashrate, who enable illegal abortions using government-resistant payment methods like Bitcoin, are... murderers. And perhaps Bitcoin brokers who don't report transfers going to abortion clinics are murderers.

In short, to stop the millions of abortions currently transpiring every year in the USA, Trump is going to have to construct a gigantic police state and it's very likely things like Bitcoin and other cryptos can be caught up in that.

If you value your Bitcoin, stay with the leadership that has seen Bitcoin increase in price by 500%, which is President Biden.

It would seem to me it is mainly because of the endless story of couples and marriages which have children who they are incapable of raising properly and economically sustain in the long term. in those conditions, it is easy to see how a children slowly losses his innocence and turn into a criminal as soon as reaches the age of adulthood.
To me, the issue goes beyond the topic of abortion, the government and the schools should make sexual education more widespread and break the taboo associated to it, uneducated teen and young adults in their fertile age are easier to take choices which would lead towards unwanted pregnancies and change the course of their life, perhaps permanently...
Here in my country there used to be a program to subsidize condoms and even affordable vasectomies, it was usual to receive sexual education in highschool, though, to be fair I went to a private highschool so I don't know the whole situation in the country...

I have even seen articles and political commentators from the United States discussion the possibility of banning contraception method altogether, though, the supreme court does not seem willing to go that extreme path for now...

You do not get to speak in the name of God, she is far to busy to kick your but, but do not abuse it.

It has never been "pro-abortion" it is pro-choice. You can follow your beliefs, but you keep them out of other's peoples uterus and genitals.

There are a number of studies that link ban on abortion and crime. Basically you are creating inmates.

Biden economy has created work and salary increases all over the US.

Bidenomics approves of abortion. It's an approval of death for the whole country if they follow it. Abortion is murder, and God is against murder.

Banning Bitcoin is an individual choice. If you don't need it, why have it around? Ban yourself out of it if it isn't doing you any good.

Stopping abortion is what God will do if the people won't do it. Trump might slow down God's method by slowing abortions down... so that we all live a little longer.

The only way Trump will ban Bitcoin is by offering people a better choice in fiat. Bidenomics is destroying the better fiat way. Look at the inflation.

The Biden way is only offering destruction. How? By promoting abortions so that the country is destroyed sooner by God rather than later. If you are dead, all the Bitcoin in the world won't mean anything to you. Keep the destruction from happening. Go the Trump way... better fiat for a while, so that people survive longer. This doesn't stop or ban BTC. It leaves it up to the people.

What would that have to do with ending abortion in the United States? That's clearly your priority. And you've made it clear it requires Bitcoin to be banned in order to accomplish that, then you and most of Trump's core voters are absolutely fine with that.

And banning Bitcoin will be very much what it takes since millions of women have abortions every year in the USA, and stopping all of those women--and the people who help them--from getting abortions will take a HUGE law enforcement effort, the likes of which we've never seen in our country.

I'm not saying it's 100% assured that Trump will ban Bitcoin if he's elected in order to stop abortions, but there's certainly a risk of that.

And meanwhile, Bitcoin went up 500% under President Biden. The market is stable and fine. A few new regulations actually help the market because it makes it safer for average investors.

The safe bet for your Bitcoin is to avoid the fanatics and go with the proven winner, which is Biden.

Bitcoin going up under Biden doesn't have much of anything, if anything at all, to do with Biden. The major thing it might have to do with Biden would be as a safety for the way Bidenomics has ruined the finances of the country for the average person.

Remember that Bitcoin has gone to $65,000 (or so) twice in the past, and dumped back down to under $20,000. It isn't Biden.

Trump would smooth fiat off so that the financial plague from Bidenomics would disappear. Bitcoin could easily go down from this. It wouldn't be that people wanted to destroy Bitcoin. It would be that nobody would need BTC.


As far as voting for Biden (the Biden Team), They are the ones who through Bidenomics killed millions around the world - Ukraine/Russia, Middle East, Iran, probably many more places - just to boost their own finances. Trump-onomics made success for America without killing anyone, and even with destroying some of the killing by keeping the world out of wars.


Since your point seems to be something like... "Kill off the world to keep me rich, if necessary," you are showing that you are a warmonger. So, it is understandable why you would vote for Biden.

Yep, that's the one. I don't want to debate your ideas about abortion or religion, I only like to point out that Trump's core voting base wants what you want and are prepared to eliminate not only Bitcoin, but the whole of the United States in order to get it.

In other words, if you want the USA to be run by people convinced the USA is going to be destroyed by God soon since we are so evil, and that absolutely any measure imaginable including making Bitcoin illegal may necessary to stop all of those abortions, then by golly you should vote for Trump.

If you like the country we are today, generally speaking, and would like international commerce and trading to continue as they have been (e.g. Bitcoin going up 500% under Biden), then... vote for Biden.

That is the choice everybody needs to make.

Abortion is a major reason why the US will fall. The time frame is that it has started already.

No proof for Trump sex scandals, right?

All right. You are a business person. What police force are you talking about? The one that will offer the US a chance to continue without being destroyed? You don't really want that. The destruction of the US is something that will be good for the States. In other words...

We don't need the Federal US government any longer. With communication and transportation being what it is, the States can do a better job of ruling the nation than the US government can. And with a big money savings at that. So, you really want Trump in office to hold it together for you, right?

Even you don't believe Trump is "innocent" in that regard. He actively admitted his debauchery for years, and he's proud of it.

So stopping all of the abortions in the USA--and, presumably, making sure no woman can escape the USA to have one elsewhere--will hold off God's destruction of the US for... how long exactly? Can you give a ballpark timeframe for this?

I'm a business person, so I like to look at the the ROI on stuff. The police force you are talking about creating here will be vast, and will necessarily need to crack down on every aspect of American life (including, for instance, making Bitcoin illegal). Besides the lost revenues caused by the economic disruption Trump is calling for here, this police force, and the border controls, and all of that will cost hundreds of billions of dollars.

So if you are saying, for instance, that we will only garner perhaps a few more years of existence in exchange for this much money and disruption, I don't think it's really worth it, do you?

Lol. Do you think that people who die plan to do it this way? While a few of them might, mostly they don't.

Do you have proof that Trump had illegitimate sexual relations with anybody? Were you in the bedroom viewing it all? Did Trump ever admit to it?

God might spare the US for a while, if they stop their abortions. Trump might be the guy to get the abortions stopped or at least slowed down.

I'm not planning on dying in a few years, thank you very much .

So you are saying God will spare the human race if we elected Donald Trump, the guy who had relations with two different porn stars shortly before his first election.

Definitely not the God I was brought up with, that's for sure...

When bad people who are destined for destruction by God, turn from their evil ways for a while, God often relents regarding the destruction He is bringing on them. At least, He waits with it for a time when they turn bad again.

Since you know that you will die in a few years - or do you think you are different - why not suicide your life now, so you don't have to go through all the trouble you will be getting along the way?

Guess it's back to the good old herbs that Native Americans used.

Think carefully about what you want for you and your daughters - this ends up with them finding an illegal abortion clinic trying to scratch their uterus and probably leaving them without any possibility of having children in the future. You are in time to stop the madness.

In the EU we have pills that you take a day or two after the "accident" and that's legal, but in many member states aborting a pregnancy is illegal, which in a way is smart because they're preventing women from having second thoughts while they're 6 months in. There's a difference between removing an egg, or stopping it from becoming a zygote and killing a fully developed baby. I'd allow abortion up to a time, for instance 3 months, and then ban it, unless the mother's life is in danger.

If that's what you think, then why especially do you care if Trump wins in November?