Arizona moves to repel abortion ban but Trump could make it US wide - page 3.

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Quote from: OgNasty on May 03, 2024, 04:12:26 PM

Why spread misinformation and lies? Is it because you’re ignorant and have no idea what you’re talking about? Did you just make this up and decide to post it thinking it was smart? Are you laughably misinformed by some liberal propaganda machine posing as a news outlet?

Trump is about state rights and has said time and again that the Federal government should stay out of the abortion issue. Pretending he wants to rule one way or another federally about abortion is idiotic.

The problem is that Trump can say what is convenient during the campaign and do what is convenient during the presidency. It would not be the first time that he changes the discourse. That is one of the problems of being so unstable.

But in the end what matters is the electoral support. He will chose whatever delivers his goals and if a sufficient number of Republicans are in favour of a national ban he will have no issue exchanging that for some other crazy legislation of his choice.

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Why spread misinformation and lies? Is it because you’re ignorant and have no idea what you’re talking about? Did you just make this up and decide to post it thinking it was smart? Are you laughably misinformed by some liberal propaganda machine posing as a news outlet?

Trump is about state rights and has said time and again that the Federal government should stay out of the abortion issue. Pretending he wants to rule one way or another federally about abortion is idiotic.

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I would urge everybody to read Trump's blueprint for his administration, which is called, "Project 2025":

https://www.project2025.org/policy/

In that document they are crystal-clear that they consider abortion to be cold-blooded murder, and that Trump should try to stop it nationwide using every tool available to the presidency--whose powers this document says should be greatly expanded.

This could include:

* Banning the abortion pill using the FDA (Congress not necessary)

* Allowing the states to prevent interstate travel for those seeking abortions in other states (Congress not necessary)

* Making abortion effectively illegal in all 50 states by using the power of the Administrative State (which, let's be serious here, Trump absolutely would increase the reach of if he's elected) to crack down on doctors, hospitals, and medicine providers. (Congress not necessary)

If you want abortion to be illegal in all 50 states, then by all means vote for Trump. If you don't want that, vote for Biden. It's as simple as that.

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Quote from: Hispo on May 01, 2024, 07:17:41 PM

It is fair for anyone to suggest Donald Trump is not to be trusted in this matter and in other matters which are supposed to concern only the the people and their body, this is obviously an issue will overwhelmingly affect women and not much men in the USA.
I believe with the almost complete ban on abortion in Arizona, it has become very clear for the Republican party that most women (regardless of their political party) want to have reasonable laws on their reproductive rights and what they are able to do with their own bodies. Even some commentators who are conservative can see the disaster ahead for the political trajectory of Republican politicians if they continue to push for the strictest laws to past in the states of the Union.
If Trump ends up losing the election, then it may be the last wake up call in the middle of night for Republicans to get back to being a normal political party or continue to lose support from reasonable people.

That is my guess too, if Trump looses even his biggest and most adept donors will understand that this is not the way to get a "return on their investment" and hopefully choose a proper candidate. But for now, we have to deal with this Playboy magazine fan.

I rekon the quality of candidates that Republicans source is appalling. Bush Junior, Trump... even the alternatives like deSantis are terrible. Kamala is hated widely, Biden may not reach the end of another mandate... I wonder where are the statesmen hiding.

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It is fair for anyone to suggest Donald Trump is not to be trusted in this matter and in other matters which are supposed to concern only the the people and their body, this is obviously an issue will overwhelmingly affect women and not much men in the USA.
I believe with the almost complete ban on abortion in Arizona, it has become very clear for the Republican party that most women (regardless of their political party) want to have reasonable laws on their reproductive rights and what they are able to do with their own bodies. Even some commentators who are conservative can see the disaster ahead for the political trajectory of Republican politicians if they continue to push for the strictest laws to past in the states of the Union.
If Trump ends up losing the election, then it may be the last wake up call in the middle of night for Republicans to get back to being a normal political party or continue to lose support from reasonable people.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2024/may/01/speaker-mike-johnson-marjorie-taylor-greene-updates

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Donald Trump may say that he does not plan to push for a national abortion ban, but Kamala Harris told voters in Florida that they should not believe him.

This is a warning of what is to come for all women in the US. Your body will no longer be yours, Trump and the Christian radicals will own it and force you to have children whether you want it or not. Even if someone rapes you, you will not be able to take a bus north to a democrat state to avoid having that children.

Think carefully about what you want for you and your daughters - this ends up with them finding an illegal abortion clinic trying to scratch their uterus and probably leaving them without any possibility of having children in the future. You are in time to stop the madness.

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