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why does ark not reach the same tx/s as other Dpos projects like eos, bitshares and steem?

shoudn't we reduce our block time and time to finality in order to become usefull for application builders?

Because others lie and hype so they could pump. I'm sure FX Thoorens could just say Ark can do 10k TPS and still no one would have any clue, just like other scam liars. Anything with Ark is possible just like Bitcoin but the storage would balloon up too much and too fast. The more TPS the faster bigger storage, those scammers just put out TPS out of their ass. You know, those scammers claim it that way but their whole blockchain don't even have 10k transactions per day. They just claim it so they could hype. Think about it, what is the point of claiming they have 100k or 100million TPS per second but their blockchain for the entire day don't even have 10k transactions? It don't make sense but seem everyone buy into this TPS hype scam. Eth claimed something like this then they choke like a chicken. Don't forget the bottleneck of the node who forging the block.
It's not possible to have 10k, 100k or 1m tx/s with decentralized because the chance a person node/computer who forging the block can't handle it, it's possible with a centralized blockchain with one or two supercomputers to handle this. All and all you can't have cake and eat it.

Example Ark could lower block time from 8 seconds with 2Ark to 4 seconds with 1Ark, then 150/tps now become 300/tps. Low to 1second then 1200/tps etc.. but the trade off with storage is not worth it in my view and their is no point to it when most scam blockchains have less than 10k transactions day.

I've done Ark.v2 TPS calculation, 150 transactions per block = 1,620,000 daily transactions, which is plenty. Currently Bitcoin have about 200k and Ether about 700k daily transactions. Eth all time high about 1,200,000 transactions daily and it choke the fukk out of it. If Ark lower it block time from 8seconds to 1second as I mentioned above it can do 12,960,000 transactions daily.

TPS = pure hype scam

Great explanation, why do you even need 10 000 transactions per second when no one is going to use it, this is just pure hype and marketing. It's not possible to have high tx/s unless you have a centralized coin

Or unless the data you transfer as very simple. Like X amount of coins were transfered from wallet Y to wallet Z.
But ARK is a complicated ecosystem that (from what I understand) can contain a lot of different informations about smart contracts, swaps, info on bridged blockchains and I dunno what else. That probably makes every transactions bigger in size than for example XRP which is probably the fastest coin at the moment. (And before you tell me XRP is centrilized, do your research please!)
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why does ark not reach the same tx/s as other Dpos projects like eos, bitshares and steem?

shoudn't we reduce our block time and time to finality in order to become usefull for application builders?

Because others lie and hype so they could pump. I'm sure FX Thoorens could just say Ark can do 10k TPS and still no one would have any clue, just like other scam liars. Anything with Ark is possible just like Bitcoin but the storage would balloon up too much and too fast. The more TPS the faster bigger storage, those scammers just put out TPS out of their ass. You know, those scammers claim it that way but their whole blockchain don't even have 10k transactions per day. They just claim it so they could hype. Think about it, what is the point of claiming they have 100k or 100million TPS per second but their blockchain for the entire day don't even have 10k transactions? It don't make sense but seem everyone buy into this TPS hype scam. Eth claimed something like this then they choke like a chicken. Don't forget the bottleneck of the node who forging the block.
It's not possible to have 10k, 100k or 1m tx/s with decentralized because the chance a person node/computer who forging the block can't handle it, it's possible with a centralized blockchain with one or two supercomputers to handle this. All and all you can't have cake and eat it.

Example Ark could lower block time from 8 seconds with 2Ark to 4 seconds with 1Ark, then 150/tps now become 300/tps. Low to 1second then 1200/tps etc.. but the trade off with storage is not worth it in my view and their is no point to it when most scam blockchains have less than 10k transactions day.

I've done Ark.v2 TPS calculation, 150 transactions per block = 1,620,000 daily transactions, which is plenty. Currently Bitcoin have about 200k and Ether about 700k daily transactions. Eth all time high about 1,200,000 transactions daily and it choke the fukk out of it. If Ark lower it block time from 8seconds to 1second as I mentioned above it can do 12,960,000 transactions daily.

TPS = pure hype scam

Great explanation, why do you even need 10 000 transactions per second when no one is going to use it, this is just pure hype and marketing. It's not possible to have high tx/s unless you have a centralized coin
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I am an aspiring blockchain game developer and have been studying solidity. I am also interested in developing on the arkvm platform once it goes live. Will i be able to use solidity on the arkvm or what programming language(s) should i learn ?
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why does ark not reach the same tx/s as other Dpos projects like eos, bitshares and steem?

shoudn't we reduce our block time and time to finality in order to become usefull for application builders?

Because others lie and hype so they could pump. I'm sure FX Thoorens could just say Ark can do 10k TPS and still no one would have any clue, just like other scam liars. Anything with Ark is possible just like Bitcoin but the storage would balloon up too much and too fast. The more TPS the faster bigger storage, those scammers just put out TPS out of their ass. You know, those scammers claim it that way but their whole blockchain don't even have 10k transactions per day. They just claim it so they could hype. Think about it, what is the point of claiming they have 100k or 100million TPS per second but their blockchain for the entire day don't even have 10k transactions? It don't make sense but seem everyone buy into this TPS hype scam. Eth claimed something like this then they choke like a chicken. Don't forget the bottleneck of the node who forging the block.
It's not possible to have 10k, 100k or 1m tx/s with decentralized because the chance a person node/computer who forging the block can't handle it, it's possible with a centralized blockchain with one or two supercomputers to handle this. All and all you can't have cake and eat it.

Example Ark could lower block time from 8 seconds with 2Ark to 4 seconds with 1Ark, then 150/tps now become 300/tps. Low to 1second then 1200/tps etc.. but the trade off with storage is not worth it in my view and their is no point to it when most scam blockchains have less than 10k transactions day.

I've done Ark.v2 TPS calculation, 150 transactions per block = 1,620,000 daily transactions, which is plenty. Currently Bitcoin have about 200k and Ether about 700k daily transactions. Eth all time high about 1,200,000 transactions daily and it choke the fukk out of it. If Ark lower it block time from 8seconds to 1second as I mentioned above it can do 12,960,000 transactions daily.

TPS = pure hype scam

I love this explanation, well done. Seems like a good wake up call for other people out there, who are only hyping tps this tps that 1 billion tps omg super tps this etc.

Thank you Smiley

Glad you like my explanation, I hope more and more people learn about this TPS hype. The trade off will always centralized vs. decentralized.
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hi there

i just wanted to check how cannabanana is doing. so I scrolled through the last three pages of the topic. but nothing. and then i saw this

His last post was: August 10, 2017, 04:30:39 PM

what happened to him?


Same question here, liked that guy...
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This project is really underrated but they just hired marketing manager so I am sure the price will probably go up a lot in the next bull market. Right now all we can do is hold our Ark and vote for a delegate to earn passive income.
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Meet Adrian — Newest ARK Crew Member

Newest team member Adrian! With 18+ years of experience we are thrilled to have him with us

Read more: https://blog.ark.io/meet-adrian-newest-ark-crew-member-a8ac46fe9619

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what would happen to that  Ark balance if someone stopped voting right before the minimum payout?

Did not quite understand the question. Maybe you meant - if someone cancel the vote (UNVOTE) before you have the minimum amount to be paid?
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I think Getting listed on more exchanges isnt hard work for the team. They are all busy at V2.
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the project shot well and will continue to develop, I think the project will have good community support
It has a good community support that is why we have reach at this level.
ARK is a good project, I am investing on it for long term, once the real bull run will come, we could easily see it go up like in the past.

I remember when ARK was a top 20 coin. Currently if ARK would need a price of ~$20 to get back in the top 20.Ark is so undervalued. Smiley
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the project shot well and will continue to develop, I think the project will have good community support
It has a good community support that is why we have reach at this level.
ARK is a good project, I am investing on it for long term, once the real bull run will come, we could easily see it go up like in the past.
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the project shot well and will continue to develop, I think the project will have good community support
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what would happen to that  Ark balance if someone stopped voting right before the minimum payout?
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Similar to Waves wallet? Decentralized transaction is good yet without amount and not lots of supported currency, it might be crappy.
Maybe, but to all of a sudden development quickly is not an easy thing, so in this regard, we can only continue to observe.
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Can't wait for V2 and PushBlockchains, the waiting is killing me.  Cheesy Cry
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hi there

i just wanted to check how cannabanana is doing. so I scrolled through the last three pages of the topic. but nothing. and then i saw this

His last post was: August 10, 2017, 04:30:39 PM

what happened to him?
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The extreme high lisk bonus is just for the first 24 hours, at the same period bitcoin also has a 30% bonus. Early birds should get more, and those that give us what we want (Lisk) should get even more.

Look, the conditions are set. They won't be changed 3 days before the TEC starts, that would be unprofessional.
So it's either take advantage of the opportunity or stay away because of it. Everyone interested can make their own decision.


TEC is over long ago


Spam account, he just reposted a very old post from 2016. I will report him to the mod, luckily such guys won't rank-up because of the Merit system.

Original post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16783241
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ONe Social Network.
The extreme high lisk bonus is just for the first 24 hours, at the same period bitcoin also has a 30% bonus. Early birds should get more, and those that give us what we want (Lisk) should get even more.

Look, the conditions are set. They won't be changed 3 days before the TEC starts, that would be unprofessional.
So it's either take advantage of the opportunity or stay away because of it. Everyone interested can make their own decision.


Option 1: this is a bot, so no matter how they want to control spam with the merit system, the bot problem is still a problem

Option 2: He/she's retarded but I don't believe that this is the case since how well the post is written

The fun fact is that I can report this to the meta section of the forum to gain attention and maybe earn a couple of merits from a legendary member but I'm not a wannabe detective like many people posting there (just to earn merits because the truth is, they do it just for merits)
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Going stealthy
The extreme high lisk bonus is just for the first 24 hours, at the same period bitcoin also has a 30% bonus. Early birds should get more, and those that give us what we want (Lisk) should get even more.

Look, the conditions are set. They won't be changed 3 days before the TEC starts, that would be unprofessional.
So it's either take advantage of the opportunity or stay away because of it. Everyone interested can make their own decision.


TEC is over long ago
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