>Account selling is unenforceable, that is a matter of fact.
Account selling right on this forum is an embarrassment & takes away whatever vestige of credibility this forum has.
It's like inviting pickpockets to stay in your living room & letting them shit on your carpet while screwing your daughter, all because you've decided that petty crime is "unenforceable."
It's unenforceable only if you suck at your job. But you don't even want to enforce it - you admitted you wouldn't be happy with 99% reduction, so why harp on enforcibility?
>My focus on the grand scam, is because that is the only downside to account selling.
You're clearly trying to provoke an insult from me, but I take pride in my patience. Allow me to suggest you reread my replies until you learn of the other downsides of account selling.
>My point being that in five years account selling has been a non issue, so why make it one?
Because now most of auctions/digital goods are frickin' bitcointalk accounts. Shit's never a problem until it is.
Don't worry, this is just as time consuming for me. I've thought about the downsides of account selling for about 3 years now, this isn't a new topic and you aren't blowing my mind with your arguments. You keep trying to compare account selling to crimes and using that as your points, which is 100% completely wrong. Would the forums ban account selling if it was enforcable (which it is not) I dont know, maybe. However we aren't in that position, so for the time being
Account Selling is Legal. we have already addressed the downsides as non issues, and you try to justify your points by drawing unequivical parallels between real world crimes that harm people, murder, theft, damage of property, and rape, to selling someone's account. This conversation isn't going anywhere unless you point out
Exactly what you percieve as embarrassing or bad about account selling. Because every time I try to adress something that you haven't specifically said, you refute that what I'm saying was ever one of your intentions.
So regarding your post that I've quoted above. Why is it an embarrassment, what credibility does the forum claim to have, and why is it removed because you can sell or buy an account? Account selling and buying is unenforcable on all accounts, not based on my performance, based on the technology available on the internet. How am I going to catch someone who is buying or selling an account through IRC? What technology exists where I can identify one user or another any better than you can? Banning something that you can't enforce doesn't eliminate it, it just drives it underground to a place where no one can see it taking place. If I banned Quickseller for selling accounts, would he leave the forums forever, or would he make a new account and be sneakier about his business? And again, what is the problem with accounts being actively purchased or sold?
We have addressed scams, we have addressed spam, you have yet to provide another reason why account selling is good/bad/embarrassing that is a real reason. I appreciate you taking the time to have this discussion, but if you actually want to voice your concerns you have to do so in a way that can be read and interpreted.
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Which point would you refute? The fact that people sell their accounts because they need money? That people scam because they need money? Or that when people have one way to get money cut off they will naturally try another way to get money?
>The fact that people sell their accounts because they need money?
People who sell their accounts for money are too stupid to scam. I mean, come on, a year's wort of posting for a couple of hundred bucks, tops?
They're no more of a threat than a leprosied beggar. Repulsive? Yes. Gagworty? For sure. Potential dangerous scammers? Lol.
>That people scam because they need money?
People scam for the same reason dogs lick their balls - because they can.
>Or that when people have one way to get money cut off they will naturally try another way to get money?
Yeah, and thwarted rapists would try to rape again, and thwarted thieves would try to steal. None of that implies that I should invite them to rape ME or steal from ME tho.
It's a big would out there, with plenty of rapables and stealables. Not gonna make bitcointalk the low-hanging fruit for second-rate crooks, let 'em get out & get some exercise.
See now you are just forgoing logic to try and win the argument. Scammers scam because they want to, not for the money? Come on. Again you keep trying to compare account buyers/sellers to rapists or thieves. Giving people a false sense of security by saying, don't worry you are safe, that account couldn't have been sold because its against the rules is what creates easy marks. Right now, people of Bitcointalk are probably the hardest people to steal from in the world. It still happens, but people here are taught quickly that anyone and everyone will take their money if given a chance. If we provide a safety net that would allow disallusioned people to let their guards down, they they are easy to steal from.