Topic: Ascendancy IPO Turned Into a Scam - Investigation in progress - page 2. (Read 38396 times)

scam again, almost ico coin is scam. Ascendancy use escrow service right?

god save me from this shitt

Thanks for that apology dude, all good now. I hope this case gets resolved ASAP.  It really sickens me to think about the greed and dishonesty around us. People like "Andrew Penn" are the sorta ones that wreck shit over a few bitcoins, who in their right mind puts their whole fucking life at risk for a few thousand dollars, fucking idiots is all I have to say really. Btw if you guys were scammed remember to submit your tx etc in the Google Form, also don't lie or else you'll get tainted with negative feedback.

Thanks,

I apologize for insulting your design and being a dick about it.

Hey dude. Choose your words wisely. "while they insulted my designs", I am 100% sure I never insulted your designs nor will I ever. I respect everyone's work to its fullest extent, please choose your words wisely. "They" in this case is the whole team, but that can't be true since I never insulted you nor did I even get the chance to talk to you.

But nevertheless ya dude this scam is another eye opener. Don't ever work with IPO or ICO's if their identity is not revealed,  and even if it is, knowing them in real life helps, not just over the net. It sure was a waste of time, 1 month of work for nothing, but again it's not just about little problems such as team members not getting paid but rather the investors who lost some of their own money and scsmmers who decide to run away with a few Bitcoins, risking their lives, reputation and career.

Well, there is a lot of accounting work ahead of us (calculating everything and paying back isn't going to be easy). However, that is already being considered. This is just a "preliminary statement" so that people calm down and stop spamming this thread with nonsense. People should be both thankful and relaxed, considering that we have potentially moved down from a loss rate of ~92.5% (technically 50% in reality if the <10 BTC claim is true) to a maximum of ~25%.

May I suggest that those who acted as escrow agents waive the fee(s)? It'll make their brands more viable via not profiting off this unfortunate episode.

Yes, I'm working on everything. One of the thieves has contacted me; they are very sorry and have already apologized to me:

• The damage is nowhere near as suspected; it looks like the data on the website was faked (less than 8 BTC was stolen; our Google Form does confirm this story so far as < 5 BTC was reported).
• "Andrew Penn" has paid back ~4.3 BTC to the escrow address (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/5be2f935373fc19789199622a4792668c20a05f6705d7663df3a387851b43ccb) and another ~3.2 BTC + funds for campaigns is due (taken by "Richard").
• It is not exactly known who Richard is at this time, and it looks like he suckered in this young individual into an "easy money scheme".

---

We are trying to figure out everything and calculate repayment options. In the most optimal scenario, investors should expect a maximum of ~3-4% loss rate at (escrow fees as per agreement, TX fees and/or other cost). Worst case scenario estimate (if the first point is is true) right now is a loss of ~25% per investment.  

---

This situation can be solved as I had previously anticipated. People tend to make mistakes. Please do not file any reports, and remain patient.
Please submit the Google Form if you have been scammed / invested on Friday (after 8 AM GMT): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfGaaai3TRKnag0G8jvG_9qmJnLkMFsx2yHPTTJpvDp1ZYXOg/viewform?c=0&w=1

First of all, sorry for the people who did get parted with their money. But honestly all the red signals were there.
- Legit questions not being answered
- Anonymous developers
- "Escrow" address not managed by the escrow holders
- Lack of a white paper

etc. etc.

@Joel as I said before and will say again  youwere a hired gun, but equally guilty in this mess/scam.

You are always the first to rant about anything and I was surprised to see you even participated in this ICO, but then thought you needed more money seeing all those ICO money

But then i remembered something.
People invested because of the people associating in this ICO. In this case you.

Because you rant a lot but you build your profile to be trusted and a guy who would never associated in a scam.
For that reason when i read this comment:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14828207
http://archive.is/tyoip
"Good Project.Usually I don't risk money with AltCoins,yours seem organised .I hope it remains the same throughout.Bought 100 Oph's for now ,I will invest more after seeing the numbers in the second stage."

So I decided to invest in the OPHION ICO.

And what happened, like the ASC team they run away with the money.

It's not often that you actively participate but in both SCAMS there are many references:

http://i.imgur.com/Hg7UaxS.png[

1 You promoted both (1 more actively then the other). In the OPHION scam you even offered your help promoting it.
2 Both scammers sign their messages with: - name
3 And if i look at the image (see the selected text from the scammer), it's the same aggression tone we can expect from you.
4 In the OPHION scam you opened this scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gone-ophionio-motherfuckers-ran-away-with-investorss-money-amount-17btc-1479475
Too prove what? Your innocence?
5 In both scams 2 'guys/developers' tagged their name the same way. Or was it to remember in what character they were?
 
@The scam hunters.
You might want to look more into Joel Jantsen.
1 He's by far not innocent in this Project
2 But I don't think the above is just a coincidence

@GLEB
You should check the above and verify it, because you may be behind the wrong guy(s). In the OPHION scam they made a false Linkedin page too.
And from what I just read you helped the community with your skillset.

MICHAEL YOU MIGHT WANT TO RETURN THE MONEY BRO

Ok, i see. I will wait and provide the needed info as soon as re-sends to investors begin.

Can we pin 'what to do guides' for both escrowed and snatched investments at the first post?

back again before his fraud ICO Lithium and now Ascendary
whereas quite confident about this project with the designated Escrow but still happened if it can be improved ICO which is held at BTT forum

Reads to me like Ball State WILL now be the center of this investigation with Michael Adair being pulled from class by the Muncie police department because he's too stupid to either return the funds or try to hide somewhere else on the planet.

Meanwhile, here's the link to a PDF of Adairs' now deleted Linkedin account - https://i.imgur.com/p7hzvqK.png (formerly thought it was still up due to Chrome archiving a cache on my browser, my I.E. depicting that it was indeed deleted).

Now deleted: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-adair-9b82476b/

@ Michael Adair et al: Be very, very fearful as to what else is in the investigators' possession yet to be disclosed, some containing vitals we fully know you don't want revealed coz it'll fuck you up more than how badly you're fucked now. There's still time to do what's right, but that window of opportunity is closing very, very quickly, but rest assured that those donning pitchforks haven't sharpen the rusty prongs for a good long time and them tooters haven't practiced of late, thus their aims may be off when they shoot for your eyeballs, missing and hitting your balls instead, or vice versa.

We are doing our best in order to catch the criminal(s) and figure out the best plan forward. It will take us a a while to process everything. Please be patient.

---

All the funds on the escrow address are safe. You will be informed as soon as possible.

That hasn't been yet decided. It is likely that you are going to have to provide the following information:
1) Address(es) used to invest with.
2) TX ID.
3) Amount.
4) Signed message from said addresses.

Nothing at the moment. We want to get a grasp of exactly now much was scammed, so we can decide how to refund people. We are currently discussing how we want to refund everyone, but a decision has not been made yet. If it did go to the address though, we can easily figure out how much each person deposited based on the inputs.

The weird thing is, i asked them for a pre ico investment option because i thought that they were legit but they didnt accept my offer, luckily for me. İ think that they are the same guys from opair and declouds.

What's the plan or progress for those who had their investment sent into the escrow address?

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact? 

What to do for those who DID have their transaction sent to the escrow address ??

What's the progress on that? What info might be needed from these investors and whome to contact? 

An IPO/ICO is a scam?  

Who would have thought?

All these shitcoins are scams

Anyone that believes the bullshit these scammers claim or think a whitepaper gives credibility is an idiot.

I've already sent you a message. Please forward this evidence to me whenever possible.

While we are not going to file that report on Monday, it is coming very soon, especially if the stolen Bitcoin are not returned. The criminal this has a chance to send everything that they've stolen to the original multisignature escrow address.

It is still not known how much was actually stolen. Therefore, the Google forms link was posted by DarkStar.

I just need to know who that is.