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April 17, 2013, 02:26:44 PM
#30
we don't have pinout or anything like that i don't think.

here is another thread which may have some useful hints.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-pcb-with-avalon-the-quarter-stick-needs-help-161715


Thank you i read this, i don't understand why Avalon would install an SMT Surface Mount Tec. line would you just contract manufacture like Apple (Foxcon)?
But anyway there's no need to design an ASIC if there's one on the way. So they are working on documentation maybe they need some help?
It's not possible to design anything from the above link.

Besides the pinout, what addition info would you need to design?
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April 17, 2013, 02:09:56 PM
#29
The Atmel Sha256 chip does 1Mb/s throughput, so that's like 10 hashes a second (assuming a 100kB block) ... not even close :-)
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April 12, 2013, 05:33:37 PM
#28
Interested in this thread

Surely there must be high end ASIC SHA-2 chips available on the market at a reasonable price we could get our hands on?
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April 10, 2013, 06:15:51 AM
#27
avalon stated they will be selling off mass orders of the chips.
I did not know that... It all makes sense now! That's why BFL is taking so long! XD
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April 09, 2013, 04:08:59 AM
#26
we don't have pinout or anything like that i don't think.

here is another thread which may have some useful hints.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-pcb-with-avalon-the-quarter-stick-needs-help-161715


Thank you i read this, i don't understand why Avalon would install an SMT Surface Mount Tec. line would you just contract manufacture like Apple (Foxcon)?
But anyway there's no need to design an ASIC if there's one on the way. So they are working on documentation maybe they need some help?
It's not possible to design anything from the above link.
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April 09, 2013, 03:24:02 AM
#25
Can someone post the Avalon ASIC details i can't find any?


... Are you blind?

Everything is there except the pinout, which they may give you if you ask nicely.
Sorry buddy it's not me.... the forum on this side was is not updating??
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April 09, 2013, 02:55:32 AM
#24
Can someone post the Avalon ASIC details i can't find any?


... Are you blind?

Everything is there except the pinout, which they may give you if you ask nicely.
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April 09, 2013, 02:53:16 AM
#23
we don't have pinout or anything like that i don't think.

here is another thread which may have some useful hints.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/diy-pcb-with-avalon-the-quarter-stick-needs-help-161715

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April 09, 2013, 02:46:20 AM
#22
OK where is the Avalon DATA sheet??? and reference design. Do they have there own box working?


https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon
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April 09, 2013, 02:35:37 AM
#21
OK where is the Avalon DATA sheet??? and reference design. Do they have there own box working?
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April 09, 2013, 02:21:54 AM
#20
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.



Agreed, but were still talking about magical ASICs here.  They don't fall from the sky.  Perhaps BitSyncom will start selling singles when Avalon's 3rd batch ships?  We can dream, huh?
I don't think that there stuff works or they are sitting back testing all there boxes and not shipping them, reading the forum many have not shipped, again i don't get it how did these guys get so much money and not ship anything?? Is everyone nuts, give us the job the last chip we designed sold 8,000,000 units it was an LED driver.

wanna make some coin?

develop a board that simply requires the avalon chips to be soldered into them.

do it any way you want, but do it fast.

avalon stated they will be selling off mass orders of the chips.

It can be done now, with the specs give by BitSyncom, with little guess work.

next step is getting the chips out of the shipping hell that is china. we need at least two 10k orders in the US and another 10k EU order.

get the boards manufactured and sent out to individuals and bingo everyone is happy
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April 09, 2013, 02:15:34 AM
#19
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.



Agreed, but were still talking about magical ASICs here.  They don't fall from the sky.  Perhaps BitSyncom will start selling singles when Avalon's 3rd batch ships?  We can dream, huh?
I don't think that there stuff works or they are sitting back testing all there boxes and not shipping them, reading the forum many have not shipped, again i don't get it how did these guys get so much money and not ship anything?? Is everyone nuts, give us the job the last chip we designed sold 8,000,000 units it was an LED driver.

wanna make some coin?

develop a board that simply requires the avalon chips to be soldered into them.

do it any way you want, but do it fast.

avalon stated they will be selling off mass orders of the chips.

It can be done now, with the specs give by BitSyncom, with little guess work.
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Activity: 392
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April 09, 2013, 02:08:47 AM
#18
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.



Agreed, but were still talking about magical ASICs here.  They don't fall from the sky.  Perhaps BitSyncom will start selling singles when Avalon's 3rd batch ships?  We can dream, huh?
I don't think that there stuff works or they are sitting back testing all there boxes and not shipping them, reading the forum many have not shipped, again i don't get it how did these guys get so much money and not ship anything?? Is everyone nuts, give us the job the last chip we designed sold 8,000,000 units it was an LED driver.

wanna make some coin?

develop a board that simply requires the avalon chips to be soldered into them.

do it any way you want, but do it fast.

avalon stated they will be selling off mass orders of the chips.
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April 09, 2013, 02:06:13 AM
#17
Avalon has given way more than most.  Their software is opensource, hosted on github, and updated simi-regularly.  They produced chip specs, even a die, and have plenty of pictures, and has several confirmed shipments.  Honestly, they are the only ASIC mining rig company I would trust with my coins.
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April 09, 2013, 01:54:35 AM
#16
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.



Agreed, but were still talking about magical ASICs here.  They don't fall from the sky.  Perhaps BitSyncom will start selling singles when Avalon's 3rd batch ships?  We can dream, huh?
I don't think that there stuff works or they are sitting back testing all there boxes and not shipping them, reading the forum many have not shipped, again i don't get it how did these guys get so much money and not ship anything?? Is everyone nuts, give us the job the last chip we designed sold 8,000,000 units it was an LED driver.
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April 09, 2013, 01:45:20 AM
#15
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.



Agreed, but were still talking about magical ASICs here.  They don't fall from the sky.  Perhaps BitSyncom will start selling singles when Avalon's 3rd batch ships?  We can dream, huh?
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April 09, 2013, 01:30:34 AM
#14
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
It good, but looks like most of that thread are talking FPGA on PCI and i don't think that is going to do the job, too slow. Using an FPGA is a good idea if power is a problem but our office graphics cards are doing more work. So moving forward i think an ASIC is the only way to go.

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April 09, 2013, 01:08:44 AM
#13
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.


Agreed,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pci-e-based-fpga-mining-cards-170977
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April 09, 2013, 01:06:45 AM
#12
I'am simple person, and need few block diagrams but think that a PCI card packed would be a better idea than all of the Boxes out there.
It would also transport better fit's in a post pack.
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April 09, 2013, 12:56:11 AM
#11
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The processing of one 512-bit block is performed in 66 clock cycles and the bit-rate achieved is 7.75Mbps / MHz on the input of the SHA256 core.

Its important to note performance/SHA-256 IP is not the issue. The issue is getting everything else together in a cost effective manner.

-SZ
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