Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1025. (Read 3917568 times)

Lets get back on this topic...

The number of shares held by the public... looking through the blockchain at satoshi transactions I can only account for 64,469 shares... where are the others?  Did I miss some? Are some shares not handled the same way as these? Did friedcat buy back some shares and we have yet to discover this?  Were there never actually more then this many shares sold and we were wrong all along?

Info taken from transactions on 5/29/2013 such as this transaction https://blockchain.info/tx/2f161bac1ef4c5dc09168de36a7c7c80a7d0ac236ec1e29a25c825d5c3a6ed7e and the other 5 like it (total of 6).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Am3MH7b0EM3adG56N1VzZzdtNXRZSkdOOXcxbGx0TXc&usp=sharing

Some basic information... From what I know all public holders of shares are paid one satoshi per share before dividends from 115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6ATJGDCHcNEVbjJoZnF.  By looking at all transactions from that address on a dividend day, I should be able to account for all publicly held shares and figure out what addresses own how many shares and track movement.  PT shares derive through publicly held shares (often called direct shares) so even though some people would not be represented here themselves... the PT should be listed and the pt share holders will be under that.  TAT confirmed his address was already listed here in my sheet.

Are my assumptions wrong?  Did I fuck up and miss a transaction in this spreadsheet?  Is YOUR dividend address listed? Or.. is something else going on.  If everyone reading this thread just checked to see if they see their address listed in my spreadsheet, we could quickly figure out if the mistake is on my end (which i assume is the case)...  If you do NOT see yours listed... link me to the transaction that includes your satoshies for 5/29.

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?

Market value maybe around 250 btc / unit right now, but on eBay they are going for much more. I'll have to resort to ebay that shitty site if no one takes the offer.  

Still cool, i would be up also for a partial swap, not the three whole units, maybe only 1 ? are you interested ?

See my edit above, are you a large shareholder ? if that's the case, consider the possibility of hedging your risk.

All valid points also but I guess I'm willing to take my chances with friedcat.

Thank you, but don't forget that the AM share price can go down as well, and there are a ton of other risks to consider, primarily rampant competition ( in the medium/long term i believe serious ASIC operations will see the light ), plus you can invest (wisely) the proceeds of mining into buying new hardware, possibly bulk Avalon chips, and get them mounted, thus keeping up with the difficulty increase.

I really do hope you find someone to trade for yor devices and soon. Peopl are staring to realize just part of the potential of AM shares. Because if you're buying into AM shares, you're buying a percentage of all mined AM blocks for the next couple years.

I am very biased towards AM right now because hardware right now seem like mining bonds (diminishing returns), whereas ASICMiner is a sustained, scaling source of income (barring Armageddon/govt intervention). The only way Avalon/BFL could match is to send a module every couple of months to upgrade your hardware. (flawed analogy but you get the idea). Plus you get a cut of profit from hardware sales, pretty sure Avalon/BFL isn't doing that.

Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria

Reiterating my previous offer with better conditions :

I am swapping 3 Avalon units (1xbatch#1,2xbatch#2) with 500 ASICMINER-PT full shares. Anyone up for it ?
My batch 1 already paid out about 150 btc and i'm currently mining at about 0.215 Terahash/sec, getting 8.15 bitcoin daily.
According to my calculations and what i've gathered from other sources, these units should be able to mine at least 400/500 btc roughly before the difficulty goes through the roof.
Looking for constructive criticism, and offers if there are any. People interested can also PM me. Units would be available for local pickup in Europe or an escrow with a hero member of your choice.

Cheers
Delaria