ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 1186.

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Quote from: DiabloD3 on April 15, 2013, 04:07:40 PM

Those are mostly useless. These require port power, so you need 1A of 5v per port.

I guess those big connectors have an external power supply.

Now, if you could just get a ninja version with a built-in miner that works on port 80, I could just walk around my workplace and surreptitiously put one in each of the thousands of computers here. Distributed risk, minimal management. And no power costs Wink

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Quote from: DiabloD3 on April 15, 2013, 04:07:40 PM

Those are mostly useless. These require port power, so you need 1A of 5v per port.

I guess those big connectors have an external power supply.

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Quote from: dooferorg on April 15, 2013, 03:03:12 PM

Quote from: friedcat on April 12, 2013, 10:50:22 AM

Device Selling
Apart from the same boards we use for mining, we also have an adapted version of the mini boards which we used at early January for our first arrived chips that are nice as small gifts. Here is a picture of a not-yet-assembled one with 300MH/s. It can be powered by merely the USB port:

I want those... filling the ports on one of these:

Those are mostly useless. These require port power, so you need 1A of 5v per port. I think I'll just buy a 21ghash board if those come available.

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Quote from: JimiQ84 on April 15, 2013, 07:48:36 AM

And the biggest dividend will be when Apple starts producing iMiners and will buy ASICMINER's trademark for it Cheesy

That would be an interesting happening. When i see internet companies selling left and right for billions of $ i would like to see whats offered for Asicminer.

Quote from: lophie on April 14, 2013, 08:12:51 PM

How about a discount for the shareholders participating in the auction Cheesy

, No really this could drive the share price a bit. Wouldn't it?

Maybe it could drive the price a bit but it wouldnt be a real better price because if a shareholder wins, whats most likely will happen, every other shareholder is losing the discount this one shareholder wins.

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Quote from: friedcat on April 12, 2013, 10:50:22 AM

Device Selling
Apart from the same boards we use for mining, we also have an adapted version of the mini boards which we used at early January for our first arrived chips that are nice as small gifts. Here is a picture of a not-yet-assembled one with 300MH/s. It can be powered by merely the USB port:

I want those... filling the ports on one of these:

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Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

Please, please, please name it this. This is the best name ever. It clearly defines who it is aimed at. Small-timers who want satoshis. In years to come it could become the largest consumer bitcoin miner with regards to volume at a low price and low hash rate.

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Quote from: Noitev on April 15, 2013, 11:36:17 AM

Quote from: Mausini on April 15, 2013, 05:25:48 AM

Quote from: SmiGueL on April 15, 2013, 05:15:29 AM

Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

fantHASHtick? Tongue

Small insects working together in large groups: ASICMINER Honey Bees

I like it

Full boards: ASICMINER Bumblebees
Next gen: ASICMINER Hornets

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Quote from: Mausini on April 15, 2013, 05:25:48 AM

Quote from: SmiGueL on April 15, 2013, 05:15:29 AM

Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

fantHASHtick? Tongue

Small insects working together in large groups: ASICMINER Honey Bees

I like it

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Quote from: Franktank on April 15, 2013, 07:42:38 AM

Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

Guys, come on... It's going to be called iMiner or iHasher or even iASIC.

"From the maker's of ASICMiner, we now bring you iMiner. A resolutionary new device...."

And the biggest dividend will be when Apple starts producing iMiners and will buy ASICMINER's trademark for it Cheesy

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Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

Guys, come on... It's going to be called iMiner or iHasher or even iASIC.

"From the maker's of ASICMiner, we now bring you iMiner. A resolutionary new device...."

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Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

Hash Bars lol. you shouldnt write that too big on the packet when shipping Tongue

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Quote from: SmiGueL on April 15, 2013, 05:15:29 AM

Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

fantHASHtick? Tongue

Small insects working together in large groups: ASICMINER Honey Bees

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Quote from: lagmo on April 15, 2013, 05:02:34 AM

Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

fantHASHtick? Tongue

_{(combination between fantastic, hash and stick )}

FountHASHtick! Cool

_{(combination between bitfountain, hash and stick, combined it will be FANTASTIC! )}

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Quote from: Rodyland on April 14, 2013, 10:56:53 PM

As someone who's invested in ASICMINER for the dividends, not the "capital growth", a rush of share buying for the purposes of securing a discount on miniminer units (do they even have a real name yet?)

Satoshi Stick(s)? Pool Qs? Hash Bar(s)? Cheesy

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Quote from: SebastianJu on April 12, 2013, 11:38:22 AM

Quote from: friedcat on April 12, 2013, 10:50:22 AM

http://s14.postimg.org/7m2hyio8t/be_usb1.jpg?noCache=1365780610

Really nice... i think if those are auctioned too it would allow the small users to buy a miner too. But i dont know if it really will maximize the revenue for Asicminer because it looks like way more work has to be done for one single chip. On the other hand... if the real miners are too big then only few can afford it which would lead to a lower price per GH.
I hope you find a balanced result.

Quote from: DiabloD3 on April 12, 2013, 11:01:29 AM

I hope thats not going to be the only one you're selling. I'd like to buy one of the full scale boards you've been racking. Even if I have to pay all 36 BTC I have to buy one.

You await that you can buy a miner with 36BTC? What hashrate do you await for this? Or do you want to take part in a groupbuy? I think the miners wont be small so that most users wont have the money and have to go group buy route.

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The point of my faux-conversation is that you can tell your friends "I got this USB thingy that mines bitcoins! It tries 300 million two step SHA256 hashes per second!", not that it is meant to be used for anything other than bitcoin mining.

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Quote from: organofcorti on April 15, 2013, 12:53:11 AM

Quote from: kano on April 15, 2013, 12:41:32 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:35:42 AM

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:04:56 AM

"What's that?"

"It's a password cracker! Can try 300 million two step SHA256 hashes per second!"

No it can't ...

Isn't 300 MHz 300 million hashes?

300 million (double) hashes of (almost) the same data (with 32 bits changing) per second
- or more correctly, it tests all 4 billion (2^32) values for 'nonce' + 76 fixed bytes, in 14.3s

Password cracking requires hashing different values each time to see which one matches what you want.

So you're saying it's not the right kind of random?

The input for each BTC hash is 80 bytes of which 76 are constant and the remaining 4 are cycled from 0 to 0xffffffff (internally by the device)

The input for each password crack hash will be different - USB wont really like getting 4 billion different inputs to hash in 14 seconds

I guess you could write an MCU which did only one hash and tested the result, but you'd still need to be sending it way too much data too quickly

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Quote from: kano on April 15, 2013, 12:41:32 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:35:42 AM

Quote from: kano on April 15, 2013, 12:33:34 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:04:56 AM

"What's that?"

"It's a password cracker! Can try 300 million two step SHA256 hashes per second!"

No it can't ...

Isn't 300 MHz 300 million hashes?

300 million (double) hashes of (almost) the same data (with 32 bits changing) per second
- or more correctly, it tests all 4 billion (2^32) values for 'nonce' + 76 fixed bytes, in 14.3s

Password cracking requires hashing different values each time to see which one matches what you want.

So you're saying it's not the right kind of random?

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Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:35:42 AM

Quote from: kano on April 15, 2013, 12:33:34 AM

Quote from: 🏰 TradeFortress 🏰 on April 15, 2013, 12:04:56 AM

"What's that?"

"It's a password cracker! Can try 300 million two step SHA256 hashes per second!"

No it can't ...

Isn't 300 MHz 300 million hashes?

300 million (double) hashes of (almost) the same data (with 32 bits changing) per second
- or more correctly, it tests all 4 billion (2^32) values for 'nonce' + 76 fixed bytes, in 14.3s

Password cracking requires hashing different values each time to see which one matches what you want.

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