ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 182.

laustcozz

newbie

Activity: 32

Merit: 0

Quote from: sngwinner on September 24, 2014, 10:24:41 AM

Oh well I still believe dibs will resume because Friedcat said so but it would be nice for a god damn update so I wasn't basing my belief off of a statement he made months ago.

Yeah, unlike a lot of these people I don't believe Friedcat "owes" us information. His only responsibility to us is to not steal from the company. But It sure would be great If we could get at least a heartbeat message.

"Not enough reserves for dividends, Gen 4 on schedule" style messages once a month would be plenty for me.

nycgoat

member

Activity: 117

Merit: 10

Quote from: sngwinner on September 24, 2014, 10:24:41 AM

Every Wednesday I come back to this thread hoping that today will be the day that divs come back. Wednesdays used to be a happy time with Lophie boasting about dibs providing fuel for his jet

yeah right...

Oh well I still believe dibs will resume because Friedcat said so but it would be nice for a goddamn update so I wasn't basing my belief off of a statement he made months ago. Things change fast.

Back then we were all eating filet on Wednesdays, now its back to rice

sngwinner

full member

Activity: 432

Merit: 100

Every Wednesday I come back to this thread hoping that today will be the day that divs come back. Wednesdays used to be a happy time with Lophie boasting about dibs providing fuel for his jet

yeah right...

Oh well I still believe dibs will resume because Friedcat said so but it would be nice for a goddamn update so I wasn't basing my belief off of a statement he made months ago. Things change fast.

laustcozz

newbie

Activity: 32

Merit: 0

I miss back when Wednesday was the best day of the week. Now it is just depressing. It's been so long without divs I'm not even sure how many shares I own. Undecided

am-informer

newbie

Activity: 26

Merit: 0

NEWS from yesterday, you probably heard?

Press forum here:
[2014-09-23] C/Net: Bitcoin-mining company Butterfly Labs shut down by FTC : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2014-09-23-cnet-bitcoin-mining-company-butterfly-labs-shut-down-by-ftc-794801

Article @CNET : http://www.cnet.com/news/bitcoin-mining-company-butterfly-labs-shut-down-by-ftc/

am-informer

newbie

Activity: 26

Merit: 0

Quote from: Fortega on September 24, 2014, 03:43:57 AM

Quote from: am-informer on September 23, 2014, 10:18:01 AM

Next up for translation is the PRISMA article at http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-58 | 基于全新方案ASICMiner Prisma矿机来袭

I don't speak chinese, but if I look at the numbers in the article: I guess this post by friedcat looks like a pretty decent translation of the prisma article

Will check it out and most probably you are right.

EDIT: Looks like they are identical in bullet points structure, which PLUS just simple logic strongly hints that its the same announcement. Posted in the translation thread.

am-informer

newbie

Activity: 26

Merit: 0

Thanks @jimmothy for the summary!

silverfuture

legendary

Activity: 947

Merit: 1008

central banking = outdated protocol

Quote from: trek27 on September 24, 2014, 02:43:21 AM

Several very pertinent posts - just above.

Every period has its own opportunities even for the 'small guy'. The trick is to spot them. For example:

1) an operation like AM could succeed with it's plans and right now one share costs just ~0.15. Yes, predicting it is speculative and shares could go to zero. But believing that large gains can be achieved without appropriate risk is infantile,

2) large mining operations are killing my miner's profitability? - what about taking advantage of depressed prices and accumulate btc? Each month, for a fracture of my income. In fact, current low prices are to large extent the merit of those mining behemoths. In a few years I could look very, very smart with this simple approach. If/when the price spikes I could even buy a miner - of course only if appropriate opportunity arises

3) why not to try some arbitrage even if just for fun - serious attempt requires time and dedication.

Eagerly looking for good news from AM Wink

Well said. The correct timing for purchases of either bitcoins or mining gear can make all the difference. AM has shown they navigate the waters very well in terms of responding to timing, pricing and approach despite extreme challenges in predicting what will happen next. It's been fun if nothing else

drasted

sr. member

Activity: 240

Merit: 250

Quote from: arnuschky on September 24, 2014, 04:13:44 AM

Great summary, thanks. Didn't know that avalon is still afloat. What happened to that AntMiner outfit, or is this one of the lines above?

They're the bitmain units

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm

arnuschky

hero member

Activity: 518

Merit: 502

Quote from: jimmothy on September 23, 2014, 09:55:53 PM

Here's what's currently available or will be soon:

Shipped but no longer available for order:

- KNC Neptune = 0.55 w/gh @ $2/gh (shipped from july-august)
- SP30 = 0.67 w/gh @ ~$0.8 (shipped last day of august)

In stock:

- None below 1w/gh.

Preorders:

- Bitmain S3+ = 0.77 w/gh @ ~$0.6/gh
- AM Prisma = 0.75 w/gh @ $0.45/gh (October)
- A1 clones = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.65/gh (October)
- Avalon4 = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.55/gh (October)
- SP20 = 0.65 w/gh* @ $0.82/gh (October 31st)
- SP35 = 0.58 w/gh* @ $0.7/gh (November 31st)

* chips not tested and probably inaccurate.
** $/gh is calculated using $400/btc.

Great summary, thanks. Didn't know that avalon is still afloat. What happened to that AntMiner outfit, or is this one of the lines above?

Fortega

full member

Activity: 155

Merit: 100

bitcoinAdd.net

Quote from: am-informer on September 23, 2014, 10:18:01 AM

Next up for translation is the PRISMA article at http://www.iasicminer.com/index.php/action-viewnews-itemid-58 | 基于全新方案ASICMiner Prisma矿机来袭

I don't speak chinese, but if I look at the numbers in the article: I guess this post by friedcat looks like a pretty decent translation of the prisma article

trek27

full member

Activity: 172

Merit: 100

Several very pertinent posts - just above.

Every period has its own opportunities even for the 'small guy'. The trick is to spot them. For example:

1) an operation like AM could succeed with it's plans and right now one share costs just ~0.15. Yes, predicting it is speculative and shares could go to zero. But believing that large gains can be achieved without appropriate risk is infantile,

2) large mining operations are killing my miner's profitability? - what about taking advantage of depressed prices and accumulate btc? Each month, for a fracture of my income. In fact, current low prices are to large extent the merit of those mining behemoths. In a few years I could look very, very smart with this simple approach. If/when the price spikes I could even buy a miner - of course only if appropriate opportunity arises

3) why not to try some arbitrage even if just for fun - serious attempt requires time and dedication.

Eagerly looking for good news from AM Wink

rudi

full member

Activity: 141

Merit: 100

Quote from: jimmothy on September 23, 2014, 09:55:53 PM

Here's what's currently available or will be soon:

Shipped but no longer available for order:

- KNC Neptune = 0.55 w/gh @ $2/gh (shipped from july-august)
- SP30 = 0.67 w/gh @ ~$0.8 (shipped last day of august)

In stock:

- None below 1w/gh.

Preorders:

- Bitmain S3+ = 0.77 w/gh @ ~$0.6/gh
- AM Prisma = 0.75 w/gh @ $0.45/gh (October)
- A1 clones = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.65/gh (October)
- Avalon4 = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.55/gh (October)
- SP20 = 0.65 w/gh* @ $0.82/gh (October 31st)
- SP35 = 0.58 w/gh* @ $0.7/gh (November 31st)

* chips not tested and probably inaccurate.
** $/gh is calculated using $400/btc.

Thank you jimmothy, much appreciated.

silverfuture

legendary

Activity: 947

Merit: 1008

central banking = outdated protocol

Quote from: Blazed on September 23, 2014, 10:48:50 PM

Now for the painful truth...no matter who you buy from none of it makes you a profit. Buying any mining gear at retail prices even with free power you lose.

IOW mining is done, time to unplug the equipment, put it on the shelf, and forget about it. Come to think of it, It's always been this way except for a few suddenly brief periods of huge price rises in BTC and early on whenever a new generation of mining tech was invented for the those first in line. Yet, the network hashrate just keeps going up no matter what. What the hell are we doing? Huh

Bitcoiners don't seem to be interested in making money, just basking in the warm, transcendent buzz of mining gear. It must be their cold. dark hearts that drive them to it like moths to a flame.

gogxmagog

legendary

Activity: 1456

Merit: 1010

Ad maiora!

Quote from: Blazed on September 23, 2014, 10:48:50 PM

Now for the painful truth...no matter who you buy from none of it makes you a profit. Buying any mining gear at retail prices even with free power you lose.

And there's still guys panning for gold in the Yukon. Greed will never die.

Blazed

legendary

Activity: 2128

Merit: 1119

Now for the painful truth...no matter who you buy from none of it makes you a profit. Buying any mining gear at retail prices even with free power you lose.

101111

hero member

Activity: 525

Merit: 500

Maybe this clause: "currently shipping" confused you?

jimmothy

hero member

Activity: 770

Merit: 509

Quote from: Chris_Sabian on September 23, 2014, 07:47:24 PM

Quote from: novusordo on September 23, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 04:35:13 PM

Quote from: rudi on September 23, 2014, 02:13:37 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 01:28:25 PM

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

Those who make bold claims require bold evidence.

I guess that he is just paid to be a troll. Must be nice in a way.

He's not paid to troll, he's paid to sell used cars (overpriced hardware) and damage SPtech's reputation in the process.

Even though he's only here to further instigate his personal crusade against AM ~~he is not wrong in this case.~~

Here's what's currently available or will be soon:

Shipped but no longer available for order:

- KNC Neptune = 0.55 w/gh @ $2/gh (shipped from july-august)
- SP30 = 0.67 w/gh @ ~$0.8 (shipped last day of august)

In stock:

- None below 1w/gh.

Preorders:

- Bitmain S3+ = 0.77 w/gh @ ~$0.6/gh
- AM Prisma = 0.75 w/gh @ $0.45/gh (October)
- A1 clones = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.65/gh (October)
- Avalon4 = 0.7 w/gh @ $0.55/gh (October)
- SP20 = 0.65 w/gh* @ $0.82/gh (October 31st)
- SP35 = 0.58 w/gh* @ $0.7/gh (November 31st)

* chips not tested and probably inaccurate.
** $/gh is calculated using $400/btc.

Chris_Sabian

legendary

Activity: 896

Merit: 1001

Quote from: novusordo on September 23, 2014, 06:46:27 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 04:35:13 PM

Quote from: rudi on September 23, 2014, 02:13:37 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 01:28:25 PM

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

Those who make bold claims require bold evidence.

I guess that he is just paid to be a troll. Must be nice in a way.

novusordo

sr. member

Activity: 800

Merit: 250

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 04:35:13 PM

Quote from: rudi on September 23, 2014, 02:13:37 PM

Quote from: RoadStress on September 23, 2014, 01:28:25 PM

Yes there are other companies that are currently shipping devices with efficiency equal or better than 0.75W/G.

Ok. Which companies? What are the products? How much do they cost?

I only corrected a statement. I'm not getting paid to offer you search services. Feel free to find out by yourself.

RoadStress is right. Also, there is a teapot somewhere between Earth and Mars orbiting the sun. I offer no proof to back up either of these statements, but feel free to find out their veracity by yourself.

Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 182. (Read 3917058 times)