Hasn't gen4 already been paid for (or, the cash to pay is in reserves already)
Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 380. (Read 3917543 times)
a dividend of about 0.17-0.18 is my estimate over the next three months, assuming we only sell 1/2 of all the chips produced, and we meet expectation for self mining and franchise mining.
You know that 0.17-0.18 over 3 months (12weeks) gives us ~3.5 BTC share price ... let's see
That would be impressive but were only accounting the dividends from the chips not including the future R@D for Gen 4
Which hopefully will be faster since they are specializing on chip production now
Nope. My calculations included a 25% of all profits reserved for future capital. Capital that would no doubt be used to pay for things like GEN 4 development. The dividend estimates are after that capital has been taken.
Fuckers, fake div news. 
I nearly had a heart attack:
My wallet was corrupted a few weeks ago and didn't had a very recent backup (never backed up my wallet after I bought direct asicminer shares, I know... Stupid)
I already checked and all my BTC was still in my old backup (you know, the client pregenerates some addresses)
I even checked by signing if I still owned my asicminer share address, and I did
When I read the news I couldn't see the div in my wallet...
great joke
I nearly had a heart attack:My wallet was corrupted a few weeks ago and didn't had a very recent backup (never backed up my wallet after I bought direct asicminer shares, I know... Stupid)
I already checked and all my BTC was still in my old backup (you know, the client pregenerates some addresses)
I even checked by signing if I still owned my asicminer share address, and I did
When I read the news I couldn't see the div in my wallet...
great joke
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a dividend of about 0.17-0.18 is my estimate over the next three months, assuming we only sell 1/2 of all the chips produced, and we meet expectation for self mining and franchise mining.
You know that 0.17-0.18 over 3 months (12weeks) gives us ~3.5 BTC share price ... let's see
That would be impressive but were only accounting the dividends from the chips not including the future R@D for Gen 4
Which hopefully will be faster since they are specializing on chip production now
a dividend of about 0.17-0.18 is my estimate over the next three months, assuming we only sell 1/2 of all the chips produced, and we meet expectation for self mining and franchise mining.
You know that 0.17-0.18 over 3 months (12weeks) gives us ~3.5 BTC share price ... let's see
It won't. There's not enough confidence in the market to have the yield affect the share price the way it did before. I'm not going to go into it too much, but I do think the yield is going to change the shareprice considerably, just not as much as you've estimated. As a speculator, I wouldn't be here otherwise.
a dividend of about 0.17-0.18 is my estimate over the next three months, assuming we only sell 1/2 of all the chips produced, and we meet expectation for self mining and franchise mining.
You know that 0.17-0.18 over 3 months (12weeks) gives us ~3.5 BTC share price ... let's see
from 160 000 000 chips total of gen3.
whatt?! where did you get those numbers? 
Its upper limit from :
1) What is the order of magnitude of 3rd generation chips ASICMiner anticipates to sell (total / first batch / first 3 months)?
re 1) Order of magnitude: Depending on fab capacity. Total target is 10k to 40k wafers, relying on competitors, Bitcoin price, and other factors. A wafer is rated at 40 TH/s.
re 1) Order of magnitude: Depending on fab capacity. Total target is 10k to 40k wafers, relying on competitors, Bitcoin price, and other factors. A wafer is rated at 40 TH/s.
also I see that you're calculating 0.5$ profit per Gh/s ... selling price is from 0.49$ (unlikely for first batches) to 0.99$ (more likely), production costs -0.2$ Gh/s, put this into sheet
so basically, the lower and higher targets takes us between 1 and 4,1 BTC divs per share...
I remember that discussion. To quote myself back in the days...
On AM value assuming $0.8 per ghs profit; at 200 PH production = 0.6 Btc per share. Anything more, we will be in Btc heaven.
If we're extrapolating: 1600 PH/s production at a profit of $0.80 per GH/s gives approximately XBT 4.8 per share. Not bad, huh?
If we're really looking at $0.8 profit per GH/s, we have to consider that this is only the price for the first month(s). The price for following batches will be lower, since mining will become less profitable. So only the first, say, 50 PH/s will make $0.8 per GH/s, afterwards we have to settle for less. That being said, it's not completely unreasonable to expect another 0.6 BTC per share coming from gen 3. Which would (still) be perfectly fine in my books...
I'm AM bullish, but expecting (a lot) more than 0.5 BTC divs/share for all of gen 3 is delusional these days. Looking at the competition, this is still more than fine. Prepare for 0.25 BTC divs/share and take any surplus as a nice bonus. Disclaimer: This is no trading advice, remember that I may be very wrong about this. Also, I do own shares.
0.25 would be amazing. Stupidly enough, I spent about three hours doing detailed calculations and saved them in my drafts, but unfortunately, I've made over 100 attempts at posting since dealing with all of this PETAmine stuff so all the details are lost. Anyways, a dividend of about 0.17-0.18 is my estimate over the next three months, assuming we only sell 1/2 of all the chips produced, and we meet expectation for self mining and franchise mining. For the more curious of you, it put the yield between 70-110%, and I retained 25% of profits for future capital. I'm expecting the upcoming dividend to be around 0.03-0.04, anything more than that in my eyes is dreamy
Should be a very prosperous week
haha maybe RockMiner investors will see dividends sooner from products which are using ASICminer chips, than ASICminer shareholders themselves no non-nefarious reason to hold money any longer. And seems like we are starting new rally in BTC prices and AM share price ... it will be interesting summer.
no non-nefarious reason to hold money any longer. And seems like we are starting new rally in BTC prices and AM share price ... it will be interesting summer.
The fact rockminer are shipping doesn't really affect this round of divs. Maybe they'll order more for the next round though.
None the less, it's still good to see...
None the less, it's still good to see...
Nice to know that should mean a dividend soon
That's a good way to celebrate Pizza Day ^_^
says who?
Says all the people who keep asking questions that were answered a few pages back.
why such feeding the trolololz? to have more people going to your website?
I'm bad at not feeding trolls, apparently. And yeah, I *would* like it if that became a widely used source of information. Maybe then we wouldn't see the same questions appearing over and over again. I know I shouldn't let it bug me, but it totally does. :-p
In a side note, this kind of thread detritus is why I started http://friedcat.info a couple days ago. No way anyone's getting at the updates from the board members and executives when there's pages and pages of this crap to dig through. :-p
says who?
Hmm, interesting. I don't see any dividend payments yet to Havelock's ASICMINER address (1J5fvfUrDcZj8rrpVHMgn8u7sXee84QkPd). How long does it take for dividends to get sent out? Shouldn't it just be an automated process at this point?
Eh. They've only held the shares at that address for the last four dividends, which were pretty paltry.
I assume they are. Dividends are due out the 27th, not the 21st. I can't see any reason for friedcat to release them early.
The last transaction to that address on Blockchain.info seems to be from May 10th. Why you gotta troll?
Sauce: https://blockchain.info/address/1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
Sauce: https://blockchain.info/address/1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
why such feeding the trolololz? to have more people going to your website?
why would anyone take that seriously - gosh...
anyways yes lophie's legally and lawfully allowed to say what he wants... on a more serious note: I can confim I believe the dividends will probably come soonish, I reckon in about 2 weeks... or at the latest I would say in the coming weeks.
I believe your belief is correct. Still a shitty thing to do.
In a side note, this kind of thread detritus is why I started http://friedcat.info a couple days ago. No way anyone's getting at the updates from the board members and executives when there's pages and pages of this crap to dig through. :-p
Edit: Divs will come May 27th. There's fuck all you can do about that. In the meantime, go outside and get some fresh air. Enjoy yourself for a week. Then come back for the real show, when the divs actually start coming out.
In a side note, this kind of thread detritus is why I started http://friedcat.info a couple days ago. No way anyone's getting at the updates from the board members and executives when there's pages and pages of this crap to dig through. :-p
Edit: Divs will come May 27th. There's fuck all you can do about that. In the meantime, go outside and get some fresh air. Enjoy yourself for a week. Then come back for the real show, when the divs actually start coming out.
Just got mine. My address has first bits 1Lophie, It is my address in my profile. Yes the amount is correct. But I was the first to report the divs! Can't wait for the report to see what is coming ahead....
The last transaction to that address on Blockchain.info seems to be from May 10th. Why you gotta troll?
Sauce: https://blockchain.info/address/1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
He is trolling because he believes that he will not be legally and financially responsible for bad investment choices of the others.
... And I think his belief is not mistaken.
That's just a joke...
We desperately need some divs...
Just got mine. My address has first bits 1Lophie, It is my address in my profile. Yes the amount is correct. But I was the first to report the divs! Can't wait for the report to see what is coming ahead....
The last transaction to that address on Blockchain.info seems to be from May 10th. Why you gotta troll?
Sauce: https://blockchain.info/address/1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
He is trolling because he believes that he will not be legally and financially responsible for bad investment choices of the others.
... And I think his belief is not mistaken.
Lophie, go ho home, you're drunk.
Just got mine. My address has first bits 1Lophie, It is my address in my profile. Yes the amount is correct. But I was the first to report the divs! Can't wait for the report to see what is coming ahead....
The last transaction to that address on Blockchain.info seems to be from May 10th. Why you gotta troll?
Sauce: https://blockchain.info/address/1LophieEaKWKtqGWoTDp5TDhB7rGjneHep
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