ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 509.

BKM

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Quote from: freedomno1 on January 29, 2014, 07:05:35 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on January 29, 2014, 06:48:16 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on January 29, 2014, 06:42:13 PM

Quote from: papiraul on January 29, 2014, 06:35:22 PM

I see a new batch of rookies getting fried in the gold rush.

The people that know how to trade know the rules. Buy on roumors, sell on news.

Congrats for adopting phrases, newbies / cheapsters. You seem to have no idea what will happen (or you do, trying to talk the price down).
We'll talk again in April.

I will hold all my shares.

As a AM bull I have to agree with papi. Every time fc makes a post price spikes and then steadily decreases until next announcement. Still 0.6/share could be a great deal if all goes well. I can see 1btc/share easily.

Theres always money to make in speculation the question is where the market will settle it down at after the news announcement

Hmmmm - indeed - lets see where this settles - its certainly not over

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Quote from: jimmothy on January 29, 2014, 06:48:16 PM

Quote from: vortex1878 on January 29, 2014, 06:42:13 PM

Quote from: papiraul on January 29, 2014, 06:35:22 PM

I see a new batch of rookies getting fried in the gold rush.

The people that know how to trade know the rules. Buy on roumors, sell on news.

Congrats for adopting phrases, newbies / cheapsters. You seem to have no idea what will happen (or you do, trying to talk the price down).
We'll talk again in April.

I will hold all my shares.

As a AM bull I have to agree with papi. Every time fc makes a post price spikes and then steadily decreases until next announcement. Still 0.6/share could be a great deal if all goes well. I can see 1btc/share easily.

Theres always money to make in speculation the question is where the market will settle it down at after the news announcement

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Quote from: vortex1878 on January 29, 2014, 06:42:13 PM

Quote from: papiraul on January 29, 2014, 06:35:22 PM

I see a new batch of rookies getting fried in the gold rush.

The people that know how to trade know the rules. Buy on roumors, sell on news.

Congrats for adopting phrases, newbies / cheapsters. You seem to have no idea what will happen (or you do, trying to talk the price down).
We'll talk again in April.

I will hold all my shares.

As a AM bull I have to agree with papi. Every time fc makes a post price spikes and then steadily decreases until next announcement. Still 0.6/share could be a great deal if all goes well. I can see 1btc/share easily.

jerye

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Does anyone know how to register an email with your shares? Am one of the earlier owners that only had to provide a BTC address for ownership. Now it seems you need an email registered with your shares to send them to havelock.

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Quote from: papiraul on January 29, 2014, 06:35:22 PM

I see a new batch of rookies getting fried in the gold rush.

The people that know how to trade know the rules. Buy on roumors, sell on news.

Congrats for adopting phrases, newbies / cheapsters. You seem to have no idea what will happen (or you do, trying to talk the price down).
We'll talk again in April.

I will hold all my shares.

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Quote from: Zubilica on January 29, 2014, 11:40:09 AM

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Full devices from ASICMiner are definitely going to exist on the form of samples and small batches. ASICMiner may also build new mining farms based on new chips. Unsliced wafers may also be available for sale. But the main business direction is to provide packaged chips.

- This is the future of AM business, mining is on left for others , AM will focus on hardware sale. Posts like this make me laugh : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4820725
- Price is low and must be competitive, profits will be also low , unfortunately
- How much profit can you get from 0.49$/G-0.99$/g range ? top will be 10$/chip.

Brief calculation (minerpumpkin) :

10 000 000/400 000 =25$/share/month
At 1000$/BTC = 0.025BTC/share/month
At 0.3BTC/share ROI=1year. If price of BTC goes up, ROI = bye bye.

Subtract all spending's, investment for next generation of chips.

My assumption is that we will never see 0.02BTC/share/month and ROI is ~2-3 years for all the shares bought above 0.4BTC

ps ...Please take this as a personal opinion , I own AM shares.

This calc is FUD, IMHO.

As Btc increases in price, FC will just mine. If hardware sales ROI > mining ROI, then FC sells hardware. As more newbies join Bitcoin, FC will sell hardware at an ROI > mining ROI.

papiraul

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I see a new batch of rookies getting fried in the gold rush.

The people that know how to trade know the rules. Buy on roumors, sell on news.

freedomno1

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Learning the troll avoidance button :)

Quote from: hlynur on January 29, 2014, 05:08:51 PM

Quote from: friedcat on January 29, 2014, 07:25:09 AM

Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annasicminer-publicly-looking-for-potential-customerspartners-for-new-chips-438359

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

may i chime in:
thanks for the update friedcat, keep up the good work (looks really promising)
oh...and by the way

edit: time to proudly wear my fc shirt more often Cheesy

True I did hide that friedcat in the frying pan for a while there whistle XD

vortex1878

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So funny. In case anybody is wondering about the sudden dumps.

TAT just listed the recently transferred shares on Havelock (including mine. Big thanks to TAT for the swift action!). And the morons instantly dumped them.

They will regret it. Cheesy

Edit: To avoid confusion: I transferred 14% of my direct shares to Havelock to be flexible in a big rise. Not that anybody thinks I had turned moron also... ^^

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I'm in a happy mood now looking to the moon and saying we will return ! Grin

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Quote from: friedcat on January 29, 2014, 07:25:09 AM

Update

The updates of the chips can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annasicminer-publicly-looking-for-potential-customerspartners-for-new-chips-438359

ASICMiner is not affiliated with AntMiner in any forms of shareholding, technical sharing or business partnership.

The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

may i chime in:
thanks for the update friedcat, keep up the good work (looks really promising)
oh...and by the way

edit: time to proudly wear my fc shirt more often Cheesy

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thx FC, happy new year to you and your team

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Quote from: aahzmundus on January 29, 2014, 12:44:45 PM

Edit: apparently you can no longer link images? in that case: http://imgur.com/M52nomu

Thanks for the update Friedcat!

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Quote from: lame.duck on January 29, 2014, 11:09:24 AM

Quote from: friedcat on January 29, 2014, 07:25:09 AM

Update
The tapout date is pulled back to early Feburary due to further modifications for robustness and stability, but mass delivery date is still March.

Hello, first i want to thank you for the update. but some question for the curious:

How does this work, a later schedule for the tape out but no change in the timeline for mass delivery? As far i understand chip manufacturing it takes around a day per layer and there a over 3 dozens of layers to be processed?

The chinese new year. Not taping out on-time doesn't matter when all the fabs are shut down.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on January 29, 2014, 12:51:36 PM

Quote from: aahzmundus on January 29, 2014, 12:44:45 PM

Time to find my Friedcat shirt and PARTY!!!!! I was maybe 20 hours from panic selling 50% of my shares due to no news! THANK YOU FRIEDCAT!

Haha. Same here. I even transferred some to Havelock.

For those constantly asking / complaining about the transfer time: I requested on Monday, and friedcat confirmed the transfer today, just before dividend payment. I do not remember how many requests I have sent so far (plenty), and every single one was executed well within a week and before the next dividend payment.

Cheers to ASICMINER and all of us with balls of steel!

yeayyy

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Quote from: aahzmundus on January 29, 2014, 12:44:45 PM

Time to find my Friedcat shirt and PARTY!!!!! I was maybe 20 hours from panic selling 50% of my shares due to no news! THANK YOU FRIEDCAT!

Haha. Same here. I even transferred some to Havelock.

For those constantly asking / complaining about the transfer time: I requested on Monday, and friedcat confirmed the transfer today, just before dividend payment. I do not remember how many requests I have sent so far (plenty), and every single one was executed well within a week and before the next dividend payment.

Cheers to ASICMINER and all of us with balls of steel!

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Time to find my Friedcat shirt and PARTY!!!!! I was maybe 20 hours from panic selling 50% of my shares due to no news! THANK YOU FRIEDCAT!

Edit: apparently you can no longer link images? in that case: http://imgur.com/M52nomu

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Quote from: Chris_Sabian on January 29, 2014, 11:31:38 AM

Quote from: supert on January 29, 2014, 11:22:20 AM

How does the W/GH and price/GH compare to cointerra's offering?
I can't find info about their power consumption.

According to one of the first recipients, it hashes at 1.7 Th/s with 2 KW draw. Although a firmware upgrade is suppose to increase the hash by 20% and decrease power by 20%.

From Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1webkm/i_am_the_guy_who_got_the_first_cointerra_miner_ama/

If friendcat's design pans out it looks like AM chips will be about 3x as power efficient.

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Quote from: Zubilica on January 29, 2014, 11:40:09 AM

Quote

Full devices from ASICMiner are definitely going to exist on the form of samples and small batches. ASICMiner may also build new mining farms based on new chips. Unsliced wafers may also be available for sale. But the main business direction is to provide packaged chips.

- This is the future of AM business, mining is on left for others , AM will focus on hardware sale. Posts like this make me laugh : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4820725
- Price is low and must be competitive, profits will be also low , unfortunately
- How much profit can you get from 0.49$/G-0.99$/g range ? top will be 10$/chip.

Brief calculation (minerpumpkin) :

10 000 000/400 000 =25$/share/month
At 1000$/BTC = 0.025BTC/share/month
At 0.3BTC/share ROI=1year. If price of BTC goes up, ROI = bye bye.

Subtract all spending's, investment for next generation of chips.

My assumption is that we will never see 0.02BTC/share/month and ROI is ~2-3 years for all the shares bought above 0.4BTC

ps ...Please take this as a personal opinion , I own AM shares.

I will buy 20 shares at 0.5 BTC from you if you are willing to sell, and I can bet 1 BTC that the profit will be more than what you predicted there, will you go down against me on this one ? you have 1 hour to think about it ...

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Quote

Full devices from ASICMiner are definitely going to exist on the form of samples and small batches. ASICMiner may also build new mining farms based on new chips. Unsliced wafers may also be available for sale. But the main business direction is to provide packaged chips.

- This is the future of AM business, mining is on left for others , AM will focus on hardware sale. Posts like this make me laugh : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4820725
- Price is low and must be competitive, profits will be also low , unfortunately
- How much profit can you get from 0.49$/G-0.99$/g range ? top will be 10$/chip.

Brief calculation (minerpumpkin) :

10 000 000/400 000 =25$/share/month
At 1000$/BTC = 0.025BTC/share/month
At 0.3BTC/share ROI=1year. If price of BTC goes up, ROI = bye bye.

Subtract all spending's, investment for next generation of chips.

My assumption is that we will never see 0.02BTC/share/month and ROI is ~2-3 years for all the shares bought above 0.4BTC

ps ...Please take this as a personal opinion , I own AM shares.

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