ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 517.

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

Might explain why Gen2 mysteriously "never happened", certainly a good as guess as any. Because like everyone says, all we can do is guess. Hopefully the team is now "100% together" and can move forward in harmony.

Whether there was a split or whatever, it certainly doesn't stop fc from entering into some simple communication on this forum. "Tapeout happened on schedule" or "Tapeout delayed until 30th January". How hard is that to post?

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:59:55 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:58:07 PM

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

Interesting. With lack of communication we have nothing else to do but speculate.

How about this for idle speculation. FC started getting worried that everyone was a spy from a competing mining company and felt that he could trust no one. Hence the drop in communication. Maybe gen2 chip designs were indeed stolen and the paranoia is justified. I could see myself going slowly crazy this way in his position.

don't think so

Haha ok. I am just kidding around anyway.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:58:07 PM

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

Interesting. With lack of communication we have nothing else to do but speculate.

How about this for idle speculation. FC started getting worried that everyone was a spy from a competing mining company and felt that he could trust no one. Hence the drop in communication. Maybe gen2 chip designs were indeed stolen and the paranoia is justified. I could see myself going slowly crazy this way in his position.

don't think so

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

Interesting. With lack of communication we have nothing else to do but speculate.

How about this for idle speculation. FC started getting worried that everyone was a spy from a competing mining company and felt that he could trust no one. Hence the drop in communication. Maybe gen2 chip designs were indeed stolen and the paranoia is justified. I could see myself going slowly crazy this way in his position.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:53:28 PM

Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

That's interesting about the split... but I am surprised that you think that is the simplest explanation!

based on my reference point... I know I do not have all the info, so it could be 100% wrong too.

I do know that ASICMiner Gen2 was 65nm, not 55 as what bitmain uses.

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Quote from: CanaryInTheMine on January 25, 2014, 11:49:52 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

That's interesting about the split... but I am surprised that you think that is the simplest explanation!

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on January 25, 2014, 11:33:55 PM

Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

Try it

Done! Will post the reply if/when I get one.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

I do it often with no responses. fc changed completely awhile back in terms of communication. don't know the reason. very strange.

on bitmain: the U1, in my opinion is made in the same factory that the ASICMiner USB was made in. Some of the tiny physical aspects/details of the U1 and ASICMiner USB are IDENTICAL.

If I had to guess, I think the simplest explanation for what's going is: fc and ASICMiner had some sort of a revolt occur and a split occurred. it wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was true. But this is just SPECULATION on my part. nothing more nothing less.

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Quote from: chriswilmer on January 25, 2014, 11:30:40 PM

Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

Try it

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Has anyone tried just emailing friedcat and asking what's up?

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Quote from: aahzmundus on January 25, 2014, 09:27:46 PM

Friedcat mentioned before the challenges of finding a candidate to fill the pr roll, well this is me throwing my name into the hat. We need someone, that is clear... I imagine the roll to be mostly consolidating questions from the public to take to FC and friends for answers. I doubt I am the best person for the job, I have no experience in the field. What I do have however is motivation, a vested interest in AM, and the availability to fill the need.

Basically I feel we need someone to do what TAT was doing a few months ago, on a more regular basis...

As long as FC keeps you informed every couple of weeks or so, that would be perfect. I don't think we'd need a vote. Just FC saying you are the "pr person". Job done.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on January 25, 2014, 01:13:37 PM

My main concern is that the BITMAIN issue has to be clarified. Their products look exactly like ASICMINER's, and the specs are perfectly Gen2.

Good point.

There is certainly an uncanny resemblance in the products (blades, sticks, cubes) and the timing & specs fit what we would have expected the Gen2 BE chips. Same sales approach (group-buys on bitcointalk, no pre-orders, etc). Even the announcement post with the blue headings and writing style is similar to FC. Maybe I'm hallucinating. The failed AM Gen2 chips must have been really abysmal for ASICMINER to decide to go for half a year without any product at all.

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Friedcat mentioned before the challenges of finding a candidate to fill the pr roll, well this is me throwing my name into the hat. We need someone, that is clear... I imagine the roll to be mostly consolidating questions from the public to take to FC and friends for answers. I doubt I am the best person for the job, I have no experience in the field. What I do have however is motivation, a vested interest in AM, and the availability to fill the need.

Basically I feel we need someone to do what TAT was doing a few months ago, on a more regular basis...

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I actually prefer that friedcat doesn't post until he's sure about what he's going to say and that it's the right time to say it. Unlike butterfly labs, where "two weeks" became a running gag.

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Quote from: Jutarul on January 25, 2014, 02:24:21 PM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

OK, so I guess FC is tied up right now due to the tapeout?

You may guess as you please.

Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

Jan 14, the tapeout was -in fact- on track back then and still scheduled for the 20th?

FC confirmed in the last meeting that the tape out was on track for the 20-Jan. That meeting took place on 8-Jan.

i just dont want to know. i'd prefer no updates (meaning cheap shares) and just keep on looking at AMs hashrate until it explodes Cheesy

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Quote from: Jutarul on January 25, 2014, 02:24:21 PM

Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

OK, so I guess FC is tied up right now due to the tapeout?

You may guess as you please.

Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

Jan 14, the tapeout was -in fact- on track back then and still scheduled for the 20th?

FC confirmed in the last meeting that the tape out was on track for the 20-Jan. That meeting took place on 8-Jan.

Good news

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

OK, so I guess FC is tied up right now due to the tapeout?

You may guess as you please.

Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 02:06:23 PM

Jan 14, the tapeout was -in fact- on track back then and still scheduled for the 20th?

FC confirmed in the last meeting that the tape out was on track for the 20-Jan. That meeting took place on 8-Jan.

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Quote from: vortex1878 on January 25, 2014, 01:13:37 PM

Well... Why would the board be bothered if there is sb. updating the ordinary shareholders more frequently? PR-person would be helpful for sales only... But friedcat had promised an improvement numerous times. Nothing ever happens.

My main concern is that the BITMAIN issue has to be clarified. Their products look exactly like ASICMINER's, and the specs are perfectly Gen2.

I am not trying to spread any FUD here but I really want to see some friedcat statement regarding this. And not the ignorant style we had to see recently. I just looked up all posts of him. The frequency and responsiveness to shareholders used to be sth. else...

Maybe there is a common node in the supply chain between Bitmain and AM (ie. They both used the same usb drive manufacturer but with different supplied chips)

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Quote from: Jutarul on January 25, 2014, 12:46:29 PM

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Quote from: minerpumpkin on January 25, 2014, 11:36:18 AM

Discus Fish has been around for over half a year now...

exactly ... and AM is in the **** for the same period of time ... but yeah ... FUD Tongue

We really need update, whats going on ... Jutarul, are the board meetings still active? Is ASICminer "right on schedule" as you mentioned 20days ago (what about tape-out)? And what happened with promised PR improvement?

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Improvements have been continually suggested by the board. There seems to be something internal preventing any improvements to PR or related aspects. So far the board has been very lenient with that. The way things are progressing there will likely have to be an investor forced audit at some point in time ...

There has been a request for a board meeting a few days ago - I expect friedcat to be busy right now and be available for a meeting before 30-Jan-14 (but don't hold me liable for that date).

OK, so I guess FC is tied up right now due to the tapeout? I really hope the progress/outcome of the tapeout will be addressed then and also communicated to this forum. I actually understand very well why one wouldn't want to publish every minor step and aspect of a plan, this is prudent and actually fundamentally important. But there should definitely be a progress update when this board meeting took place.
Oh and is the rumor (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4705731) true or at least reliable that FC stated on Jan 14, the tapeout was -in fact- on track back then and still scheduled for the 20th?
Maybe you can forward our concerns (I guess FC/board is aware of them?)? And insights from your side are also always welcome and trusted. Thanks!

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Well... Why would the board be bothered if there is sb. updating the ordinary shareholders more frequently? PR-person would be helpful for sales only... But friedcat had promised an improvement numerous times. Nothing ever happens.

My main concern is that the BITMAIN issue has to be clarified. Their products look exactly like ASICMINER's, and the specs are perfectly Gen2.

I am not trying to spread any FUD here but I really want to see some friedcat statement regarding this. And not the ignorant style we had to see recently. I just looked up all posts of him. The frequency and responsiveness to shareholders used to be sth. else...

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