ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 540.

EskimoBob

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Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank

Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 26, 2013, 02:58:37 PM

Quote from: EskimoBob on December 26, 2013, 02:50:20 PM

I inherited few shares of this crap from Diablo3D, after he "managed" his fund of bull shit into a pile of rubble's.
If you like to buy them, please contact me via PM.

Bailing on Friedcat, but holding Ken Slaughter?

Interesting choices.

Ken slaughtered our coins long time ago. ASICMINER scumbags are following him on the same path. If you do not believe me, buy my few shares I have.

Rival

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Quote from: Mabsark on December 26, 2013, 02:27:07 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:51:54 PM

Quote from: Mabsark on December 26, 2013, 01:48:48 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

How many deadlines has AM missed again?

At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November.

I don't remember an official statement about gen2. I think it was more or less hinted at with no clear date until it was decided to be skipped.

Here you go:

Quote from: friedcat on July 23, 2013, 12:32:56 PM

Project Timeline

August-September: Deploy/sell all hashpower arriving in July and early August.
September-November: Deploy/sell the hashpower ordered at early July.
November-December: Experimental products of 2nd-gen chips and modular large-scale deployment solutions.

I don't think that counts as a missed deadline. As I understand it, there were experimental Gen2 chips and products for testing in November. Unfortunately, they did not live up to expectations. Modular large-scale deployment solutions appear to be on-track as promised though.

Entropy-uc

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Quote from: EskimoBob on December 26, 2013, 02:50:20 PM

I inherited few shares of this crap from Diablo3D, after he "managed" his fund of bull shit into a pile of rubble's.
If you like to buy them, please contact me via PM.

Bailing on Friedcat, but holding Ken Slaughter?

Interesting choices.

EskimoBob

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Quality Printing Services by Federal Reserve Bank

I inherited few shares of this crap from Diablo3D, after he "managed" his fund of bull shit into a pile of rubble's.
If you like to buy them, please contact me via PM.

Mabsark

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Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:51:54 PM

Quote from: Mabsark on December 26, 2013, 01:48:48 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

How many deadlines has AM missed again?

At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November.

I don't remember an official statement about gen2. I think it was more or less hinted at with no clear date until it was decided to be skipped.

Here you go:

Quote from: friedcat on July 23, 2013, 12:32:56 PM

Project Timeline

August-September: Deploy/sell all hashpower arriving in July and early August.
September-November: Deploy/sell the hashpower ordered at early July.
November-December: Experimental products of 2nd-gen chips and modular large-scale deployment solutions.

jimmothy

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Quote from: Mabsark on December 26, 2013, 01:48:48 PM

Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

How many deadlines has AM missed again?

At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November.

I don't remember an official statement about gen2. I think it was more or less hinted at with no clear date until it was decided to be skipped.

Mabsark

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Quote from: jimmothy on December 26, 2013, 01:12:02 PM

Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

How many deadlines has AM missed again?

At least one. 2nd gen chips coming out in November.

jimmothy

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Quote from: Voodah on December 26, 2013, 09:58:59 AM

Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

How many deadlines has AM missed again?

bitdude

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I am happy I can say that my recent missing dividends problem was solved by FC. Thanks FC.

Voodah

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Quote from: Rival on December 26, 2013, 09:24:37 AM

17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

Because every single ASIC deadline ever has been met on time.

Rival

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17 more days until scheduled Gen3 (40nm) tapeout if I am reading the tea leaves correctly. Just over two weeks. If they make this deadline I think folks will feel quite a bit more comfortable with their positions.

romerun

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Bitcoin is new, makes sense to hodl.

bitfury came out with the kickass chip at the right moment and took almost half of the network, if AM can do the same they will, at least a few months

empoweoqwj

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Quote from: willBTC on December 26, 2013, 05:25:27 AM

For the long-term AM shares holders, I just only have one question: Do you have faith that Asicminer will get 5%~15% of the whole network in the next few years(maybe 2 years later or 5 years later ), and why ?

Not faith, but hope. There are just too many unknowns to have "faith". Gen3 will tell us a great deal. Before that, we are just a bunch of thumb twiddlers ...........

willBTC

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For the long-term AM shares holders, I just only have one question: Do you have faith that Asicminer will get 5%~15% of the whole network in the next few years(maybe 2 years later or 5 years later ), and why ?

explorer

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 03:30:45 AM

Quote from: explorer on December 26, 2013, 02:28:53 AM

Quote from: willBTC on December 26, 2013, 12:51:18 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 12:15:02 AM

Quote from: AlexMc on December 26, 2013, 12:04:22 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming.

Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct.

I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week .

Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week Grin

I think this was the big test, and the price hasn't really budged. Sure, divs can go lower, but they are so low now, it won't make much difference to share price. Upcoming tests of share price will be more news-based than divs-based ... finally Wink

True. divs are likely to half or less before gen3 rolls out, depending on competitor deployment. That hurts, but when you're expecting near zero anyway, meh. Even delays in deployment of G3 shouldn't be much of a shake. Anyone hodling that long isn't going to panic dump over a few more weeks. We can just hope for some forced liquidation sales Cheesy

Even then, the fur is going to fly over who gets to snap them up, rather than better bargains.

empoweoqwj

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Quote from: explorer on December 26, 2013, 02:28:53 AM

Quote from: willBTC on December 26, 2013, 12:51:18 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 12:15:02 AM

Quote from: AlexMc on December 26, 2013, 12:04:22 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming.

Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct.

I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week .

Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week Grin

I think this was the big test, and the price hasn't really budged. Sure, divs can go lower, but they are so low now, it won't make much difference to share price. Upcoming tests of share price will be more news-based than divs-based ... finally Wink

explorer

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Quote from: willBTC on December 26, 2013, 12:51:18 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 12:15:02 AM

Quote from: AlexMc on December 26, 2013, 12:04:22 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming.

Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct.

I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week .

Plus the dump from .32 to .27 happened @ announcement, and recovered over the day to almost .30 again. Faster than I expected. Test again next week Grin

willBTC

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 26, 2013, 12:15:02 AM

Quote from: AlexMc on December 26, 2013, 12:04:22 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming.

Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct.

I think most share holders have already known the dividend this week .

empoweoqwj

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Quote from: AlexMc on December 26, 2013, 12:04:22 AM

Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

People know what divs are for this week surely? They don't have to wait for them to appear at havelock to know what is coming.

Also, the vast majority of shares are not held at havelock, but are direct.

AlexMc

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Quote from: empoweoqwj on December 25, 2013, 11:33:18 PM

According to havelock, they are worth ฿0.2998

Given dividends were rubbish this week, I don't see them going much lower. Unless we get some bad news out of AM, which is always possible.

I don't think we can look to the Havelock pricing at this point. They haven't paid this weeks dividend yet. I'd be surprised to see the share price hold at this level once Havelock have published the dividend for 24 hours.

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