Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 618. (Read 3917468 times)
November 02, 2013, 02:07:04 AM
I thought AM do not do preorder
November 02, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
Let the crazy sales begin!! (part 2)
This is good pricing (for us shareholders, ofcource)
if mid Nov shipping is correct, then expect the share price to at least double after 2 weeks of that (when we see some good sale numbers/higher divs)
TO DA MOON!!!!
This is good pricing (for us shareholders, ofcource)
if mid Nov shipping is correct, then expect the share price to at least double after 2 weeks of that (when we see some good sale numbers/higher divs)
TO DA MOON!!!!
November 02, 2013, 01:09:58 AM
I have a question is there a AsicMiner cube from you freidcat
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
I want mine custom designed:
Think Valve will mind?
November 02, 2013, 01:02:21 AM
That Cube is exactly 100x as powerful as USB Block Eruptor, which also used to be sold for 1.99BTC not so long ago.
Only in Bitcoinland...
Only in Bitcoinland...
November 02, 2013, 12:39:19 AM
I have a question is there a AsicMiner cube from you freidcat
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
Jewish?
November 02, 2013, 12:18:43 AM
I have a question is there a AsicMiner cube from you freidcat
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
Wow, something new! Or is it just 3 blades + PSU + hub, packed in a box?
Anyway, glad to see that AM can still offer competetive pricing with gen.1 hardware.
November 02, 2013, 12:15:55 AM
I have a question is there a AsicMiner cube from you freidcat
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
Oh. My. God.
November 01, 2013, 11:59:30 PM
I have a question is there a AsicMiner cube from you freidcat
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
http://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-ambec-01
November 01, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
Don't have the exact quote, but didn't friedcat say that multiple teams were developing in parallel for ASICMINER? That would significantly increase their chances.
Wasn't it Avalon?
November 01, 2013, 12:35:14 PM
Ken from ActM mentioned NRE costs of $1m for the structured ASIC from eASIC (which is like "half FPGA - half ASIC" and thus much cheaper), CoinTerra needs to raise $5m for their full custom 28nm ASIC, if I'm not mistaken..
If the NRE costs listed in the report are indeed for the 40 nm line, then it's only $210,119.50. It's low, but not too low that it's impossible to be for 40 nm.
If the NRE costs listed in the report are indeed for the 40 nm line, then it's only $210,119.50. It's low, but not too low that it's impossible to be for 40 nm.
November 01, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Its correct that the advantage of lower process nodes arent so high in cost like it looks on the first view since a chip is way more expensive. But a big factor to keep in mind is that you save a lot money by assembly, you need less miner boards, you need less work to do for the same TH and you need less space. Not to forget the higher speed to bring up TH.
So as long as you dont plan to sell... for mining lower process nodes have some good advantages.
So as long as you dont plan to sell... for mining lower process nodes have some good advantages.
The NRE costs for all 28nm were payed buy customers preorder funds that were willing to dig their own grave.
Not an option for Asicminer.
I didnt speak about NRE-Costs at all. Only production costs. NRE-Costs are higher of course too and the higher the diff is rising the more impact has it on future chip production. Thats correct.
But isnt asicminer already developing 28nm? I though they developed a 40nm or 65nm chip that didnt work good and now work on 28nm. Or was it another process node?
The other companies don´t have to worry about NRE because the customer already took all the risk and funded NRE for no gain.
Asicminer has to add the NRE costs to every chip they produce.
It is all about costs per Thash including NRE costs.
If 5000Thash 40nm are cheaper than 5000Thash 28nm you will go the 40nm way.
Imho 65nm has failed and 40nm is in development right now.
I dont think so. Once the NRE-Costs are paid and the miners work you can earn the NRE-Cost back in. Every chip on top that you build is cheap then since you can build as many as you want with the profit. But of course the high NRE-Costs are a big factor even more now.
November 01, 2013, 12:20:36 PM
Its correct that the advantage of lower process nodes arent so high in cost like it looks on the first view since a chip is way more expensive. But a big factor to keep in mind is that you save a lot money by assembly, you need less miner boards, you need less work to do for the same TH and you need less space. Not to forget the higher speed to bring up TH.
So as long as you dont plan to sell... for mining lower process nodes have some good advantages.
So as long as you dont plan to sell... for mining lower process nodes have some good advantages.
The NRE costs for all 28nm were payed buy customers preorder funds that were willing to dig their own grave.
Not an option for Asicminer.
I didnt speak about NRE-Costs at all. Only production costs. NRE-Costs are higher of course too and the higher the diff is rising the more impact has it on future chip production. Thats correct.
But isnt asicminer already developing 28nm? I though they developed a 40nm or 65nm chip that didnt work good and now work on 28nm. Or was it another process node?
Speculation is that 65/55nm node development was unsuccesfull and now they are developing 40nm node (~$200 000 NRE)
Are you sure you didnt lost a zero? The numbers i heard were more in $2 Millions...
November 01, 2013, 09:36:01 AM
Don't have the exact quote, but didn't friedcat say that multiple teams were developing in parallel for ASICMINER? That would significantly increase their chances.
Multiple teams will help.Cointerra will be liquid cooling and AM will be immersion cooling, but cointerra is selling equipment at $3/GH, will AM be able to beat that?
Immersion cooling will be hard to ship. I bet the usbs won't be immersion cooled.
November 01, 2013, 09:31:05 AM
AM100 & TAT.ASICMINER Offer (Limited Time Only, Ends Nov. 15, 2013)
Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or direct shares for a fee of 5 (five) TAT.ASICMINER shares per whole share. That is a 105:1 ratio.
Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Push 1050 AM100 shares back to us, and email us according to the directions below.[/i]
How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat
1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
2. Make the subject of your email: AM100
3. Send an e-mail to [email protected] from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
- Account name
- Quantity of shares pushed
- Wallet address that you want the direct shares attached to
- Email address you want the shares attached to
Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.
Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.
NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.
Is [email protected] the correct address to xfer AM100 shares to on Havelock?
Try it again now, there should now be an option to send direct to issuer, rather than put in an email address.
Uhh... I just assumed that [email protected] was the correct address for the issuer. I hope... that was OK?
November 01, 2013, 08:52:18 AM
What are the estimated NRE costs for the different nm sizes?
Wonder if they failed at the 65 size like BFL did, even BFL's second shot at 65 was still way out of their power specs.
Wonder if they failed at the 65 size like BFL did, even BFL's second shot at 65 was still way out of their power specs.
November 01, 2013, 08:51:12 AM
AM100 & TAT.ASICMINER Offer (Limited Time Only, Ends Nov. 15, 2013)
Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or direct shares for a fee of 5 (five) TAT.ASICMINER shares per whole share. That is a 105:1 ratio.
Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Push 1050 AM100 shares back to us, and email us according to the directions below.[/i]
How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat
1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
2. Make the subject of your email: AM100
3. Send an e-mail to [email protected] from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
- Account name
- Quantity of shares pushed
- Wallet address that you want the direct shares attached to
- Email address you want the shares attached to
Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.
Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.
NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.
Is [email protected] the correct address to xfer AM100 shares to on Havelock?
Try it again now, there should now be an option to send direct to issuer, rather than put in an email address.
November 01, 2013, 08:41:20 AM
Don't have the exact quote, but didn't friedcat say that multiple teams were developing in parallel for ASICMINER? That would significantly increase their chances.
November 01, 2013, 08:24:40 AM
Will they be able to compete with Cointerra?
November 01, 2013, 08:01:56 AM
Imho 65nm has failed and 40nm is in development right now.
From all the rumors that are circulating around I understand that 40nm is being developed now and that there is a team setup for 28 (32) or something like that for production on february 2014. So we should get a really nice boost once the 40nm is developed and we are even ready for the likes of CoinTerra and Hashfast for next year. At least that's my understanding of the current affairs.
November 01, 2013, 07:40:04 AM
AM100 & TAT.ASICMINER Offer (Limited Time Only, Ends Nov. 15, 2013)
Additionally, we will be offering AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shareholders a temporary service to convert their shares into AM1 or direct shares for a fee of 5 (five) TAT.ASICMINER shares per whole share. That is a 105:1 ratio.
Example #3: You have 1000 AM100 shares, but you want to convert them to AM1 shares. Push 1050 AM100 shares back to us, and email us according to the directions below.[/i]
How to Convert Your AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) Shares to Direct Shares with Friedcat
1. Using the Transfer feature, push the AM100 (or TAT.ASICMINER) shares to the issuer account. They must be a 105:1 ratio, this means the minimum is 105 AM100 or TAT.ASICMINER shares.
2. Make the subject of your email: AM100
3. Send an e-mail to [email protected] from your account email address registered with HavelockInvestments.com and include the following info:
- Account name
- Quantity of shares pushed
- Wallet address that you want the direct shares attached to
- Email address you want the shares attached to
Do NOT send your request more than once, and do NOT include multiple requests in one email.
Conversions will be transferred in batches, and confirmations will ONLY be sent after each batch. Do NOT send emails requesting updates.
NOTE: TAT Investments is not responsible for any lost value, arbitrage, or trading opportunities due to delays in processing transfer requests. TAT Investments is not responsible for any limitations or discontinuations of services or access to liquidity imposed by the host exchanges.
Is [email protected] the correct address to xfer AM100 shares to on Havelock?
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