Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 868. (Read 3917468 times)
The price of new products is a little bit high
I asked because I saw on taobao for 4000 RMB 
but realized thats only a pre payment, not the full price.
They haven't update it. but realized thats only a pre payment, not the full price.Ive been slowly learning chinese and I feel free to create this new expression 烤猫的: could mean something awesomely good in the future(or restricted to BTC geeks forums) the very oposite of 他妈的. 
This never going to happen. Gald to hear you learn Chinese.
never? Why? Its like saying bitcoin will never succeed when it only depends of people who use it, btc or the new language form.
I asked because I saw on taobao for 4000 RMB but realized thats only a pre payment, not the full price.
They haven't update it. but realized thats only a pre payment, not the full price.Ive been slowly learning chinese and I feel free to create this new expression 烤猫的: could mean something awesomely good in the future(or restricted to BTC geeks forums) the very oposite of 他妈的.
This never going to happen. Gald to hear you learn Chinese.
烤猫的！
Yes.烤猫=friedcat are they ready to ship?
I don't think this would be a problem.Come on,this is friedcat!!I asked because I saw on taobao for 4000 RMB
but realized thats only a pre payment, not the full price.Ive been slowly learning chinese and I feel free to create this new expression 烤猫的: could mean something awesomely good in the future(or restricted to BTC geeks forums) the very oposite of 他妈的.
So when can we expect sales to open up here on the forum? Still think the price is.. well.. high, but they will prob sell pretty decently still.
rockxie just announced the new&mini blade. Here: http://vdisk.weibo.com/s/Jk4aV
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
Also,this price will be changed by time. new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
烤猫的！
Yes.烤猫=friedcat are they ready to ship?
I don't think this would be a problem.Come on,this is friedcat!!
烤猫的！
Im still struggling to translate, are they ready to ship?
Im still struggling to translate, are they ready to ship?
rockxie just announced the new&mini blade. Here: http://vdisk.weibo.com/s/Jk4aV
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
new blade: 10GH/s=18.88BTC Group buy 18.68BTC
mini blade: 5GH/s=9.88BTC Group buy 9.68BTC
This is still very much an experiment: We have money, we have an unregulated market, let's try to limit the possibility of manipulation?
"regulation" does not magically stop "manipulation", whatever those two may mean. Actually, look at the sorry state of the "regulated" markets...Don't get me started on US Cable companies...
He was already told he could reply on the forum or directly to me, whichever he preferred.
For transparency's sake, you could tell him to reply only on the thread - that simple, and he's done it already in the past. Everything else "5000+ shares" belongs in board meetings and NOT discussed on this board.
This is still very much an experiment: We have money, we have an unregulated market, let's try to limit the possibility of manipulation?
I'd have to agree with this as well. No, I don't think that board members are manipulating the price - far from it actually. I'd just say that announcements really should be disseminated from a company representative.
He was already told he could reply on the forum or directly to me, whichever he preferred.
For transparency's sake, you could tell him to reply only on the thread - that simple, and he's done it already in the past. Everything else "5000+ shares" belongs in board meetings and NOT discussed on this board.
This is still very much an experiment: We have money, we have an unregulated market, let's try to limit the possibility of manipulation?
First the good news: All legal matters are resolved.
The last message from friedcat (from yesterday):
The last message from friedcat (from yesterday):
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Will send you 1000 today and likely 2000 each day after that.
Yes, at 15,000€ x400GH/s. Not saying is not worth it, but all this pre-order stuff is very tiresome. When the potential profit is huge, then its ok to take a gamble. But when the price is adjusted to its expected ROI (as Avalon did with batch #3, and as I assume punin is doing by selling the "August delivery" at double the price of the "October delivery"), IMO the only way to go is immediate delivery (less than 7 days). Otherwise, we know how the story unfolds: a two weeks delay already throws your ROI expectations to the garbage bin.
As a shareholder/customer; I have to say thank you friedcat for choosing the path of decentralization.
80$ for an efficient ASIC mining, scalable and delivered all around the world via forum-chosen community members.
ASICMINER #1...
What about that guy who has 15,000+ shares does he have a board sofa?
much more, theoretically 1.2% of the Bitcoin network hashrate
Also keep in mind that ALL board members hold 5000+ shares, not just PT operators, or myself. Selling anything below 5000 makes you no longer a board member.
What about that guy who has 15,000+ shares does he have a board sofa?
+1 There's no reason why you can't ask FC to please post his answers himself.
There is a very small line to seeing how easy it would be for a man with 5000+ shares knowing that hardware or statements won't come for another 3 weeks to try and take advantage of the information before the market knows of it - example: yesterday, AM trades at 4.6, now trading for 4.2.)
He was already told he could reply on the forum or directly to me, whichever he preferred.
Beyond that, I think everyone needs to keep in mind that Friedcat already communicates info to shareholders much more than any other business of its size, and I'm not going to lean on him to do things he doesn't chose to.
Also keep in mind that ALL board members hold 5000+ shares, not just PT operators, or myself. Selling anything below 5000 makes you no longer a board member.
Lately, people want to blame every price swing on manipulation, and now on insider trading. This is paranoia towards that which you can't control.
The price rose violently in the past few weeks, volatility is inevitable, not a conspiracy.
1) congratulations on your board seat, maybe now you can consider giving people the option of moving shares out of TAT (maybe for a fee?)
2) I would much rather friedcat post updates in the forum himself, otherwise this precisely becomes insider information (particularly in the hands of someone with that many shares - and you just mentioned your private shares aside from the passthrough you're offering right?)
2) I would much rather friedcat post updates in the forum himself, otherwise this precisely becomes insider information (particularly in the hands of someone with that many shares - and you just mentioned your private shares aside from the passthrough you're offering right?)
1) As I've stated in the past, I won't even consider exporting of TAT.AM/ASICM shares if the asset doesn't hold well over 5000 shares. Even then, if the service was added, it would have fees attached. However I will have other news you might like soon.
2) I understand, but this is the way he chooses to respond and I can't make him do otherwise. As is, I had to reach out twice to get the response at all. He is busy, and I'm not interested in nagging him about how he behaves. Regarding whether this info is a trading advantage, that "advantage" is something all of the other AM PT operators have had for months as board members. Only now am I the same as them. Will it turn out to be a real advantage? I have no idea, nor is it my concern. The biggest advantage is getting to be a part of the crew, in whatever small way I can.
"this is the way he chooses to respond" => how about asking him to post an update in the thread itself?
He used to do it in the past (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2390687), but has since stopped since you started the questioning. Please make sure your pm/emails request that he post the update in the thread.
There is a very small line to seeing how easy it would be for a man with 5000+ shares knowing that hardware or statements won't come for another 3 weeks to try and take advantage of the information before the market knows of it - example: yesterday, AM trades at 4.6, now trading for 4.2.)
+1 There's no reason why you can't ask FC to please post his answers himself.
1) congratulations on your board seat, maybe now you can consider giving people the option of moving shares out of TAT (maybe for a fee?)
2) I would much rather friedcat post updates in the forum himself, otherwise this precisely becomes insider information (particularly in the hands of someone with that many shares - and you just mentioned your private shares aside from the passthrough you're offering right?)
2) I would much rather friedcat post updates in the forum himself, otherwise this precisely becomes insider information (particularly in the hands of someone with that many shares - and you just mentioned your private shares aside from the passthrough you're offering right?)
1) As I've stated in the past, I won't even consider exporting of TAT.AM/ASICM shares if the asset doesn't hold well over 5000 shares. Even then, if the service was added, it would have fees attached. However I will have other news you might like soon.
2) I understand, but this is the way he chooses to respond and I can't make him do otherwise. As is, I had to reach out twice to get the response at all. He is busy, and I'm not interested in nagging him about how he behaves. Regarding whether this info is a trading advantage, that "advantage" is something all of the other AM PT operators have had for months as board members. Only now am I the same as them. Will it turn out to be a real advantage? I have no idea, nor is it my concern. The biggest advantage is getting to be a part of the crew, in whatever small way I can.
"this is the way he chooses to respond" => how about asking him to post an update in the thread itself?
He used to do it in the past (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2390687), but has since stopped since you started the questioning. Please make sure your pm/emails request that he post the update in the thread.
There is a very small line to seeing how easy it would be for a man with 5000+ shares knowing that hardware or statements won't come for another 3 weeks to try and take advantage of the information before the market knows of it - example: yesterday, AM trades at 4.6, now trading for 4.2.)
It would be really great if friedcat setup some simple webpage for ordering USB miners and blades - when they are in stock again. I mean this can't take more than 5 hours of time and I'm sure that it would attract more customers than just people who go to bitcointalk.org forum daily.
Why not just let the resellers do that? They seem to be able to find the relevant threads.Has anyone spoken with friedcat via PM recently? I'd like to transfer my shares to ASICMINER-PT, but he hasn't answered my PM yet. Sent it last night, so maybe I'm just impatient.
I believe transfers are usually done twice a week: on sunday and before the dividends go out.
Has anyone spoken with friedcat via PM recently? I'd like to transfer my shares to ASICMINER-PT, but he hasn't answered my PM yet. Sent it last night, so maybe I'm just impatient.
Has changing how ownership of ASICMINER shares is determined been discussed? It seems to me that friedcat, a friggin' CEO, is wasting his time changing entries in a spreadsheet.
Has changing how ownership of ASICMINER shares is determined been discussed? It seems to me that friedcat, a friggin' CEO, is wasting his time changing entries in a spreadsheet.
I sent in a request via email on the 29th of June and have yet to hear back. I sent a follow up yesterday as well. Let's hope he's busy with the new blades.
But I do think a new way of transferring ownership is needed. I don't understand why friedcat doesn't hire someone to put together a system that can automate it in some way. It would take a lot of work off his back, plus it would ease price discovery, and compress the spread, as they can be traded faster.
Friedcat doesn't benefit from the active trading of his stock - there's no reason for him to do it, especially when that's what the PT shares are for. BTW, I transferred some shares to a PT last week - took Mr Friedcat a few days, but it went through smoothly without any issues. I've got no complaints about the way it's handled now.
It would be really great if friedcat setup some simple webpage for ordering USB miners and blades - when they are in stock again. I mean this can't take more than 5 hours of time and I'm sure that it would attract more customers than just people who go to bitcointalk.org forum daily.
Why not just let the resellers do that? They seem to be able to find the relevant threads.Has anyone spoken with friedcat via PM recently? I'd like to transfer my shares to ASICMINER-PT, but he hasn't answered my PM yet. Sent it last night, so maybe I'm just impatient.
I believe transfers are usually done twice a week: on sunday and before the dividends go out.
Has anyone spoken with friedcat via PM recently? I'd like to transfer my shares to ASICMINER-PT, but he hasn't answered my PM yet. Sent it last night, so maybe I'm just impatient.
Has changing how ownership of ASICMINER shares is determined been discussed? It seems to me that friedcat, a friggin' CEO, is wasting his time changing entries in a spreadsheet.
Has changing how ownership of ASICMINER shares is determined been discussed? It seems to me that friedcat, a friggin' CEO, is wasting his time changing entries in a spreadsheet.
I sent in a request via email on the 29th of June and have yet to hear back. I sent a follow up yesterday as well. Let's hope he's busy with the new blades.
But I do think a new way of transferring ownership is needed. I don't understand why friedcat doesn't hire someone to put together a system that can automate it in some way. It would take a lot of work off his back, plus it would ease price discovery, and compress the spread, as they can be traded faster.
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