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Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It - page 949. (Read 3917568 times)

legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
is there a way AM could set up a simple data feed, like a json feed or something that gives live hashrate?  That would solve a lot of this guessing.

Sure.

Will they? No. I wouldn't if I were them. It is definitely a competitive advantage to keep that information proprietary.

For all we know they could be cycling through new hardware at this very moment. If they're cycling through 40 th/s groups of hardware for testing purposes and they left three groups on at once.. Competitors would know "they have at LEAST 120 th/s of hashing power available at any moment."

Whereas if they do not do that, and we infer that there was 100+ th/s over the previous hour, that can be attributed to variance.
well, I assume they could control the feed, like what gets counted and what doesn't.

They announce their production and equipment levels openly, as it is.

The other thing is... what competition Huh

There's quite a few competitors but their just starting to seriously move out and develop some decent stuff well the serious contenders not BFL but maybe their also moving
http://imgur.com/a/fqpME

Anyways going with cycling myself
Or maybe that hot girl in the data center theory  Grin
I trust in Friendcat
newbie
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Where is an update from Friedcat? With all of the craziness you would think it would have come by now. AKA lower dividends, hashrate fluctuation etc.
sr. member
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is there a way AM could set up a simple data feed, like a json feed or something that gives live hashrate?  That would solve a lot of this guessing.

Sure.

Will they? No. I wouldn't if I were them. It is definitely a competitive advantage to keep that information proprietary.

For all we know they could be cycling through new hardware at this very moment. If they're cycling through 40 th/s groups of hardware for testing purposes and they left three groups on at once.. Competitors would know "they have at LEAST 120 th/s of hashing power available at any moment."

Whereas if they do not do that, and we infer that there was 100+ th/s over the previous hour, that can be attributed to variance.
well, I assume they could control the feed, like what gets counted and what doesn't.

They announce their production and equipment levels openly, as it is.

The other thing is... what competition Huh
full member
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is there a way AM could set up a simple data feed, like a json feed or something that gives live hashrate?  That would solve a lot of this guessing.

Sure.

Will they? No. I wouldn't if I were them. It is definitely a competitive advantage to keep that information proprietary.

For all we know they could be cycling through new hardware at this very moment. If they're cycling through 40 th/s groups of hardware for testing purposes and they left three groups on at once.. Competitors would know "they have at LEAST 120 th/s of hashing power available at any moment."

Whereas if they do not do that, and we infer that there was 100+ th/s over the previous hour, that can be attributed to variance.
sr. member
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is there a way AM could set up a simple data feed, like a json feed or something that gives live hashrate?  That would solve a lot of this guessing.
full member
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Made a mistake, chill out or sue me if you are american.

Regardless of who that statement was intended towards (I think it was intended towards me,) take it as an opportunity to learn more about how hashrate is derived at the current difficulty. It's interesting stuff Smiley

Wasn't directed at you. I really thought we had hashrate data to work on. Since we don't I realize looking at stats with hour resolution is pretty meaningless, probably everything under 4 hours is more or less bogus.

Well, not bogus, but not reliable. Anything with a 4 unit sample size is error prone.

However, you can make some pretty interesting assumptions off of the data.

I posted yesterday that when I see a series of blocks mined that looks like "AM-AM-BTCGUILD-AM-AM", that I know it's variance (or luck.)

However, if I saw the same thing that looked like "AM-AM-BTCGUILD-AM-AM-AM" then I would believe that it is due to a higher quantity of hashing power than is reflected in the 24 hour average.

There's no real way to quantify what I'm explaining, it's just a feeling I get from looking at the data. Right or wrong, it's still interesting to look at.

Now -- with a 48 hour sample size -- we *should* get a pretty good estimate of what the actual average hashing power is over that time.
member
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Made a mistake, chill out or sue me if you are american.

Regardless of who that statement was intended towards (I think it was intended towards me,) take it as an opportunity to learn more about how hashrate is derived at the current difficulty. It's interesting stuff Smiley

Wasn't directed at you. I really thought we had hashrate data to work on. Since we don't I realize looking at stats with hour resolution is pretty meaningless, probably everything under 4 hours is more or less bogus.
full member
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Made a mistake, chill out or sue me if you are american.

Regardless of who that statement was intended towards (I think it was intended towards me,) take it as an opportunity to learn more about how hashrate is derived at the current difficulty. It's interesting stuff Smiley
member
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They all come from the same source -- blockchain's json API.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=1,2,4,8

You can change the querystring "hours" parameter if you want to look at customized views.

Shows 46 TH/s for last hour right now.
According to http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/ that's higher than ever by about 10 TH/s.

Most of the people here really don't understand how this works, do they?

Made a mistake, chill out or sue me if you are american.
full member
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Most of the people here really don't understand how this works, do they?

The answer to that is a definitive no.

Most people do not realize that we do not have actual hashrate data from ASICMINER, only inferred hashrate data that we figure based on number of blocks found during a given timeframe and the current difficulty.
sr. member
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They all come from the same source -- blockchain's json API.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=1,2,4,8

You can change the querystring "hours" parameter if you want to look at customized views.

Shows 46 TH/s for last hour right now.
According to http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/ that's higher than ever by about 10 TH/s.

Most of the people here really don't understand how this works, do they?
full member
Activity: 294
Merit: 100
They all come from the same source -- blockchain's json API.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=1,2,4,8

You can change the querystring "hours" parameter if you want to look at customized views.

Shows 46 TH/s for last hour right now.
According to http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/ that's higher than ever by about 10 TH/s.

Again -- you have to know the sample size that he's using.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=24,48,72,96,120

If you look at that, you can see the 24 hour sample size matches exactly to that of runeks.dk/bitcoin.

In other words, at the current difficulty, it will take 46 th/s to find two blocks in one hour.

Just so everyone knows, all of the ASICMINER data that is presented is inferred. Because they (ASICMINER) do not post the actual hashrate, we have to infer the hashrate from the number of blocks found in a given timeframe and the difficulty.

If we did know the hashrate, we could do fun things like determine the probability of finding 5 blocks in an hour at the current difficulty.
member
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They all come from the same source -- blockchain's json API.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=1,2,4,8

You can change the querystring "hours" parameter if you want to look at customized views.

Shows 46 TH/s for last hour right now.
According to http://runeks.dk/bitcoin/ that's higher than ever by about 10 TH/s.
full member
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Merit: 100
Getting mixed signals.  Undecided

This says we're back up to 21%: http://blockchain.info/pools
This says we're falling again: http://www.asicminercharts.com/
This says 17% and last 6 hours not good: http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

Where's the most reliable and up-to-date data?

They all come from the same source -- blockchain's json API.

http://www.dpcapital.net/blockchain/?hours=1,2,4,8

You can change the querystring "hours" parameter if you want to look at customized views.
hero member
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In the last hour we found 3 blocks, isn't it good?

It dropped from 15 to 10 now Sad

Getting mixed signals.  Undecided

This says we're back up to 21%: http://blockchain.info/pools
This says we're falling again: http://www.asicminercharts.com/
This says 17% and last 6 hours not good: http://www.asicminercharts.com/live/

Where's the most reliable and up-to-date data?
hero member
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Please do us a favor and let us know when you're going to sell, we'll be happy to be there when the price falls!

He made it clear -- in 1 week he will be ready to sell. duhhhhhhh Smiley

Yup, wednesday.
Better have your coins ready.
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Please do us a favor and let us know when you're going to sell, we'll be happy to be there when the price falls!

He made it clear -- in 1 week he will be ready to sell. duhhhhhhh Smiley
legendary
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In the last hour we found 3 blocks, isn't it good?

It dropped from 15 to 10 now Sad

It really is no problem if they are testing stuff etc but tbh it kinda scares me.
I picked up shares for the first time very recently and this doesn't look good.
Another week like this and the price will drop a lot next wednesday and i will be forced to sell again, which i really don't want to do.

Please do us a favor and let us know when you're going to sell, we'll be happy to be there when the price falls!
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
In the last hour we found 3 blocks, isn't it good?

It dropped from 15 to 10 now Sad

It really is no problem if they are testing stuff etc but tbh it kinda scares me.
I picked up shares for the first time very recently at the highest price and this doesn't look good.
Another week like this and the price will drop a lot next wednesday and i will be forced to sell again, which i really don't want to do.
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any idea why the am blocks have less transactions in them?

also i have a transaction that by mistake i put without a fee, and its waiting in que, but i sell alot of space in blocks, isn't the limit 1mb? the blocks are average much less i dont think i ever even saw a 500kb block,

but recently the transactions per block has been raising, especially in the mornings here, pretty wicked stuff!

elazar
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