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sr. member
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Honest 80s business!
January 23, 2015, 06:05:37 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?

Seems to be. Yay unregulated stock mhttp://arkets! Wink

Right, because insider trading never happens on the regulated stock markets!   Wink

That's what regulation means.

Insider trading happens on stock markets all the time. What do you call when people in a company buy their own stock. There is a legal and illegal way to insider trade.

See http://www.sec.gov/answers/insider.html
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The legal version is when corporate insiders—officers, directors, and employees—buy and sell stock in their own companies. When corporate insiders trade in their own securities, they must report their trades to the SEC. For more information about this type of insider trading and the reports insiders must file, please read "Forms 3, 4, 5" in our Fast Answers databank.

But do you guys really believe members of AM are buying/selling shares on Havelock? Maybe board members, but I don't think FC cares about possessing a few more or less shares. He has more than enough!
sr. member
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January 07, 2015, 10:13:15 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?

Seems to be. Yay unregulated stock mhttp://arkets! Wink

Right, because insider trading never happens on the regulated stock markets!   Wink

That's what regulation means.

Insider trading happens on stock markets all the time. What do you call when people in a company buy their own stock. There is a legal and illegal way to insider trade.

See http://www.sec.gov/answers/insider.html
Quote
The legal version is when corporate insiders—officers, directors, and employees—buy and sell stock in their own companies. When corporate insiders trade in their own securities, they must report their trades to the SEC. For more information about this type of insider trading and the reports insiders must file, please read "Forms 3, 4, 5" in our Fast Answers databank.
legendary
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December 11, 2014, 02:22:04 AM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?

Seems to be. Yay unregulated stock markets! Wink

Right, because insider trading never happens on the regulated stock markets!   Wink

That's what regulation means.
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
December 11, 2014, 12:57:24 AM
Well throws in a bit more news refunds on the Prisma Units

Till now we received enough returned Prismas to get a statistical conclusion.
We decide that the old Prisma design has some flaws in both firmware and hardware.
Therefore manually fixing them and shipping them back take too long and are
not good for both our customers and us.

So the customers can choose one in the two offerings below:

1. We buy back the Prismas at the original price the customers pay.
The customers only need to ship the controller and the hashing boards back.
The fans and heatsinks are not needed. Customers who already shipped them back
can also switch to this option.

2. We use revised version of Prismas based on our new power management chips
to replace old ones, instead of returning old designs or replacing. This version is very
stable and has no problem of hashrate loss/overheat/can't identify boards/etc.
The compensation method for mining time loss is the same as before.

We cover shipping fee of both, if you can provide the shipping label.

We are very sorry for all the problems brought with the old version Prisma. The revised Prisma with our
own power management chips is much more stable. So if you are still able to put some trust on it and
accept the waiting of compensation (it accumulates with each delayed date anyway), you can choose
the second.

Please email us to [email protected] with the following information and format:

* Personal info,shipping address,tel number
* Date of buying our Prisma
* Your previous individual/exclusive btc payment address
* Number of broken Prsima boards (have to be fit well with the number you shipped back)
* Date you received your miners,date of shipping back
* The picture of the shipping label with the shipping price on it
* Your btc receivable address. it will be best to be the one you paid to us before. If the btc
receiving address is different, please sign the message with your address used for payment if you could.

For customers who already shipped back, please mail to us again ([email protected]) about the choice
you want to take.

Phasebird will reply afterwards with the new shipping address within US and EU. It
allows quicker turn-around time.

For retail customers/customers get from secondary market:

This time please direct contact us instead of resellers.
The buy-back price for you is 1.39 btc each(0.3475 btc per board), and 0.069 btc per controller.


Anyone want to take a stab at outlining a "best case" scenario (for shareholders) assuming that AM is first to market with a chip that is (for arguments sake) 50% more energy efficient than anything else out there. I have a hard time determining how realistic it is to build a 100 PH farm these days. One year ago building a 1 PH farm sounded impossible, and so while building a 100 PH farm (by one entity like ASICMINER) sounds impossible to me now... maybe it's easier than I think?

It depends on how many chips they fabricated from their sample chips of 100 they were able to test things are looking good but I would say ideally if they have enough wafers and can streamline this time around it will scale and make a lot of bitcoins for us shareholders.
Need more info wafer amount financials to make better estimates.
hero member
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Bitcoin for all & all for Bitcoin
December 11, 2014, 12:18:20 AM
Maybe they have been loading up already.  Wink
hero member
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December 10, 2014, 08:47:12 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?
to close to the news to not be insider trading

That is not necessarily true. We knew the news was coming, and we knew that friedcat's posting while shares have been trading at this level has always resulted in a price ramp, even if a short lived one. The downside risk of what FC might say, compared with where the price was already at relative to speculative valuations of AM made for an attractive gambit, even with no insider knowledge. If there was a significant number of shares to be snapped up below .15, doing so might not be a terrible plan, and actually generates the rumor that there is insider knowledge, or the expectation of good things coming to boost momentum in your favor to dump part or all of those shares for a profit while averaging down on your other holdings.

It could have just been a well calculated risk.
yea i kinda forgot that it was announced the 16th was test chip date

someone made a bet that chips would be good to go, probably not inside trading....why not load up way earlier though?
legendary
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December 10, 2014, 08:15:33 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?
to close to the news to not be insider trading

That is not necessarily true. We knew the news was coming, and we knew that friedcat's posting while shares have been trading at this level has always resulted in a price ramp, even if a short lived one. The downside risk of what FC might say, compared with where the price was already at relative to speculative valuations of AM made for an attractive gambit, even with no insider knowledge. If there was a significant number of shares to be snapped up below .15, doing so might not be a terrible plan, and actually generates the rumor that there is insider knowledge, or the expectation of good things coming to boost momentum in your favor to dump part or all of those shares for a profit while averaging down on your other holdings.

It could have just been a well calculated risk.
hero member
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Inspired
December 10, 2014, 07:23:32 PM
In reality, they could announce 9 generations of the best chips ever designed.
Consuming almost no electricity.
But, until it translates into a fucking dividend - it adds no value on its own.
hero member
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December 10, 2014, 07:17:10 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?
to close to the news to not be insider trading
hero member
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December 10, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?

Seems to be. Yay unregulated stock markets! Wink

Right, because insider trading never happens on the regulated stock markets!   Wink
hero member
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December 10, 2014, 07:12:58 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?

Seems to be. Yay unregulated stock markets! Wink
sr. member
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December 10, 2014, 07:00:20 PM
So the jump in share price just before fried cat made the new announcement was just insider trading?
legendary
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December 10, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
Anyone want to take a stab at outlining a "best case" scenario (for shareholders) assuming that AM is first to market with a chip that is (for arguments sake) 50% more energy efficient than anything else out there. I have a hard time determining how realistic it is to build a 100 PH farm these days. One year ago building a 1 PH farm sounded impossible, and so while building a 100 PH farm (by one entity like ASICMINER) sounds impossible to me now... maybe it's easier than I think?
legendary
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
December 10, 2014, 02:52:10 PM
Generation 4 chip announcement
Share price moved up from 0.09 to 0.14
Seems like the time to bring this one up again for a bit, speculation's on where we are going from here and how this batch will be compared to the Prisma's.

We are glad to announce ASICMiner's 4th generation chip. From the physical testing data
of our verification sample, BE300S, the silicon results matches the simulation results faithfully,
and even outperforms our simulation in some cases. BE300S achieved the lowest energy
consumption per gigahash in existing market, getting the joule/gh ratio down below 0.2.

Furthermore, our string-based power solution eliminates almost all power losses and almost
all electric components on the board. Therefore on-wall power consumption would be very close
to (on-chip power/PSU efficiency), and the overall system cost is squeezed to its minimum.

Name: BE300S (Sample)

Technology: TSMC 28nm HPC

Package: FCLGA 5mm x 5mm

On chip efficiency (first board):
    3.0GH/s | 0.1872W/G
    4.8GH/s | 0.2275W/G
    5.2GH/s | 0.2469W/G

On board efficiency (average of 4 boards):
    2.8GH/s | 0.1961W/G
    3.2GH/s | 0.2026W/G
    3.6GH/s | 0.2095W/G
    4.0GH/s | 0.2145W/G
    4.8GH/s | 0.2204W/G
    5.2GH/s | 0.2257W/G
    5.6GH/s | 0.2314W/G
    6.4GH/s | 0.2363W/G
    6.8GH/s | 0.2439W/G
    7.2GH/s | 0.2495W/G

We are still testing more voltage-frequency combinations, as well as more chips.
But the test results are stable and solid so far.

After the thorough testing of single chip boards, we are going to test boards with chained chips.

Single chip board picture:


Testing going on:


More data and pictures are to be updated.
hero member
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November 03, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
If you wonder where your divs are going, it is to owners of AMHASH.

under IPO again, didn't take long

If you wonder where the capital went, it was to shares of AMHash.  People who wanted mining divs got mining divs.  Obvious post is obvious.
hero member
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November 03, 2014, 09:08:24 PM
Well either way that 5PH is hashing right?
because otherwise they would just have a stockpile of chips, i still feel likes its kinda a plan c-d
legendary
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November 03, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
Well either way that 5PH is hashing right?
hero member
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November 03, 2014, 08:45:27 PM
If you wonder where your divs are going, it is to owners of AMHASH.

AM is the owner of AMHash...
maybe if IPO it sold out something would have happened
hero member
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November 03, 2014, 07:51:51 PM
If you wonder where your divs are going, it is to owners of AMHASH.

AM is the owner of AMHash...
member
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November 03, 2014, 07:42:04 PM
If you wonder where your divs are going, it is to owners of AMHASH.
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