Topic: ASICs shipping now? (Read 2104 times)

Awesome! Thanks for all the info guys. Great community we have here!

cointerra is very late with delivery! diff will not affect first batch but all the rest will be thrown money.
knc Neptune and x3 prospero already sold out and they are not worth of buying anymore.
if you order them right now you are going on the end of the looooong line and by the time you have them diff will be so high that they won't even make you ROI.
next generation of miners will be announced by early summer, 5-7TH probably!
so hold on to your money, maybe buy btc and sit on them! wait for the next generation and act fast!
I was in the first 50 buyers of bfl miners and earn nice amount of btc, also I was in the first (2 units) and second (3 units) batch knc Jupiter order and you can imagine how much I earned with them and I have order number 23 at Black Arrow for 7 Prospero x3 units. yes seven! so can you imagine how much they going to earn me in next couple of months?
I am 33 years old and my wife and I quit our day jobs 2 months ago and enjoying home with our daughter! one more round for me and I'm going to early active retirement!
first buyers always make best profit, remember that!
keep an eye on knc and black arrow, specially black arrow for the summer!

vpasic, out of those 2 cointerra 2TH and black arrow x3, which one would you wait on? Also, what would be the lowest amount of hashrate to mine at, in everyone's opinion, 2TH+?

I know btc graph very well since beginning of btc!
lot's of time stuck on the same price!
lot's of tme stuck on couple of dollars.
lot's of time stuck on $30 value.
beginning of last year when btc jumped from $30 to $260 value then drop down to $70-$80 and stays around $100 for most of the year. and finally at the end of year jumped to $1000+!
you know why??? because of the Asia and Asia was only major thing missing in the whole story.
There is nothing more to happen to dramatically rise value of btc anymore.
this year, best case scenario, it will stay around $1000! $200-$300 up maybe!!

and one more thing fuck head!!!
learn to read English!!!
I didn't tell to OP to jump in to preorder!!!
I told him to stick wit the money and wait for the next generation of miners!
If you didn't notice dick head, every person in the first batches for delivery is swimming in coins.
it happened with first batch buyers from butterfly, knc, avalon and it will happen with first batch buyers of cointerra 2TH, black arrow x3 and in the future it will happen wit next generation miners and buyers!  

Thanks for all the great feedback. I've decided to roll my money into extra scrypt miners and use the profits off that to buy BTC directly. If the price of BTC goes back up to ~$1100+, I may revisit buying a SHA256 miner directly, but for now will hold off.

You don't "know" that btc price will go up in next 6 months, but if you look at a graph of bitcoin prices since 2011, what would your best bet be?

Advising OP to pre-order something very expensive when hashrate is going to go crazy by April .... let's just say I hope he ignores the advice and buys bitcoins instead

how do you know if btc value will change??? is it going to change to higher value or lover value???
you know, mining btc was stop being hobby long time ago! we all mining for profit. one who is telling you that he mine for hobby and for bitcoin network support is full of crap and short in money to invest in much profitable mining gear.

and for OP, stick with your money and wait for next generation miners (5-7TH) and be fast on ordering one!

and it has begun... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/guess-who-got-a-hashfast-baby-jet-today-425019

hashfast has already started... cointerra is almost done with rig design and going to start shipping soon... cloudhashing is going to add 2 petahashes soon.... daamn the next difficulty is going to be absolutely mind boggling...

If it ignores difficulty, its not a bitcoin mining calculator at all. Its being fraudulent.

You are correct, the difficulty will change..... but the value of btc will change as well.  What if it goes really high this year?

That's the other variable that you gotta consider when mining.  If BTC goes way up...mining equipment is golden.

The real question if you are thinking about mining is, why are you doing it?

If you are mining simply for profit, then you might be wasting your time.

Real miners mine not only for profit, but to support the bitcoin network.

I'm just sayin, do your homework before you purchase a miner if you wish to be profitable.

You may find out that it's not worth your time, or out of affordable reach.

BTC and mining is a movement for change in world finance, not just a profit venture.

bitfury also ships , but no ROI there

I calculated it.. what do you calculate?

6.5 BTC where did you get that from lol...

450 GH/s will make you about 6.5 BTC.  You could just buy 6.5 BTC for $5500 right now or you could purchase this miner for $6400 and wait a year to mine that much, paying at least $300 more in electricity.  Assuming it doesn't break during that time.

http://mining.thegenesisblock.com/

The calculations are correct, but this is based on the current difficulty. Difficulty on bitcoin increases at an astonishing rate, i think someone mentioned 116% per month if i am not mistaken, but for example on the 22nd of December it was around 900,000,000 while now its 1,789,546,951. it has almost doubled in less than a month.

There are some better calculators out there that allow to input a monthly diff increase percentage, that calc would bring you some more realistic values.
e.g. http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator

Once you input at least 100% into the difficulty increment you will see the realistic values.

At the current moment in my opinion its too late to jump the bitcoin wagon with asics, the asic you buy now will be useless in 3 months (well for BTC at least) so if you do not manage to make a return, then you will be losing out instead of profiting.
You could attempt to mine other SHA256 coins, but what i found was that when bitcoin diff jumps, people jump to other SHA 256 coins and once the diff is increased there they just jump back to btc mining.

If i was you with money to spare, i would seriously consider mining Scrypt coins, there is a much bigger choice (well most are junk anyway) but you will have a more realistic return to every dollar spent mining dogecoin for example (which has tripled in its price in the last 72 hours)

Yeah I agree with you. Is there a better calculator yo use somewhere?

Don't trust calculators. You're missing one huge piece of variable: difficulty. Do you think the difficulty's going to stay like that all year?

Thanks Syke!

According to this, http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=200000&p=500.00&pc=.14&pf=0.00&d=1789546951.05324000&r=25.00000000&er=968.25000000&hc=3200, you'd make $19,250.55 per year. Are their calculators off?