AsRock H110 Pro BTC+ with 12 Asus TUF3 RX 5700 XT anybody help me?

geck

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Quote from: vladutz1186 on January 09, 2021, 10:31:20 AM

Hello. I just replace my old Biostar TB250-BTC Pro with Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ and I have a problem.
System won`t boot ... after display Asrock logo, I see only one " - " in upper left corner

OS tested : Ethos and HiveOS
Boot : from USB ( i also try to boot from SSD )
VGA : Onbord ( and with 1 or 12 gpus, same problem )
The MB is connected with 2 molex + 1 sata from the same PSU

I made test with same USB in other rig and works fine, also all GPU`s/risers works without problems ... so problem is from MB. One hour tested diffrent BIOS settings without success ...

Thanks and I`m waiting some advices

Remove gpus, go into bios, disable CSM.
On my board with AMD gpus, CSM always gets reenabled if the rig hangs/freezes

vladutz1186

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Hello. I just replace my old Biostar TB250-BTC Pro with Asrock H110 Pro BTC+ and I have a problem.
System won`t boot ... after display Asrock logo, I see only one " - " in upper left corner

OS tested : Ethos and HiveOS
Boot : from USB ( i also try to boot from SSD )
VGA : Onbord ( and with 1 or 12 gpus, same problem )
The MB is connected with 2 molex + 1 sata from the same PSU

I made test with same USB in other rig and works fine, also all GPU`s/risers works without problems ... so problem is from MB. One hour tested diffrent BIOS settings without success ...

Thanks and I`m waiting some advices

barrabasbarrabas

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Quote from: dagarair on September 14, 2020, 07:37:31 AM

the pci voltage is greater for some reason on 5700's. I have seen them work fine on some boards past 8-9 and others no dice because the board doesn't not have enough power. If your board has connectors to plug in more power to it do that, if it don't it's more than likely the board. I can almost guarantee you if you plugged in other cards it would work all of them no issues.

Disable CSM in this way also takes the 13 gpu but as soon as there is a failure in my case it goes to CSM ENABLE and does not start again, it only happens with the 5700 with the 570 or 580 there is no problem
What can be

dagarair

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the pci voltage is greater for some reason on 5700's. I have seen them work fine on some boards past 8-9 and others no dice because the board doesn't not have enough power. If your board has connectors to plug in more power to it do that, if it don't it's more than likely the board. I can almost guarantee you if you plugged in other cards it would work all of them no issues.

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Quote from: Pica on July 23, 2020, 07:33:24 PM

Quote from: jgonzi on July 23, 2020, 06:12:39 AM

The CPU cannot handle all this quantity of GPU... put less GPU... some time that help… with 10 or 11 can work but not 12...

Why? It has 16 lines of PCI-E !
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/88179/intel-pentium-processor-g4400-3m-cache-3-30-ghz.html

CPU PCI-E lines are irrelevant. All slots besides the main x16 go through the chipset.

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Glad it helped.

John-234

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My first born child will be named Miner 29

Disable CSM in the bios worked!

Thank you!

miner29

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Check all thesein bios:

set VTd INTEL VIRTUALIZATION to DISABLE.
set ONBOARD AUDIO/SOUND (AZALIA) to DISABLE.
set IEEE1394 to DISABLE.
set PCI-E SUBSYSTEM/LANES to x8/x4/x4
set ONBOARD GRAPHICS to DISABLE.
set PCI-E GENERATION to GEN2.
set CPU FREQUENCY SCALING to DISABLE.
set CPU PERFORMANCE MODE to ENABLE.
set FAST BOOT to DISABLE.
set CSM to ENABLE.

John-234

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Tried delaying the boot by 8 seconds and...nothing

miner29

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You may try to make the boot delay longer. It may be the bus just needs a second or two more time to fully register everything. I usually use a 6 second delay if the bios supports a delay on boot.

And it is NOT thr cpu....i have sevral of these running 13 gpus for last several years no issue. (g4400 cpuj

John-234

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Did you ever find an answer to this...I'm having the same EXACT thing happen.

The only difference is that I have 2 1600Watt PSU's

Can only get 9 going

Pica

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Quote from: geck on July 23, 2020, 07:37:36 AM

Quote from: Pica on July 22, 2020, 04:19:29 PM

Quote from: geck on July 22, 2020, 03:43:46 PM

I currently have it running 12 gpus. I didn't need to change anything in the bios, however sometimes when it crashes and i do a power cycle, it will not boot up.
I'm able to get it to boot by turning off half the rig to get into bios, and disable csm compatability (uefi only, no legacy). For some reason that setting gets toggled sometimes when the rig crashes.
HTH!

What GPUs did you has?
You are a lucky man!

10x rx5700 and 2x radeon vii. I have the same cpu and ram amount as you.
also try different pcie speeds, mine are set to 2x

2x is the same Gen2 ?
Thanks

Pica

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Quote from: jgonzi on July 23, 2020, 06:12:39 AM

The CPU cannot handle all this quantity of GPU... put less GPU... some time that help… with 10 or 11 can work but not 12...

Why? It has 16 lines of PCI-E !
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/es/es/ark/products/88179/intel-pentium-processor-g4400-3m-cache-3-30-ghz.html

bigassboy

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I'm running 10 cards due to the psu limitation, so far its been smooth. never had to change anything on the bios except for auto start..

geck

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Quote from: Pica on July 22, 2020, 04:19:29 PM

Quote from: geck on July 22, 2020, 03:43:46 PM

I currently have it running 12 gpus. I didn't need to change anything in the bios, however sometimes when it crashes and i do a power cycle, it will not boot up.
I'm able to get it to boot by turning off half the rig to get into bios, and disable csm compatability (uefi only, no legacy). For some reason that setting gets toggled sometimes when the rig crashes.
HTH!

What GPUs did you has?
You are a lucky man!

10x rx5700 and 2x radeon vii. I have the same cpu and ram amount as you.
also try different pcie speeds, mine are set to 2x

jgonzi

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The CPU cannot handle all this quantity of GPU... put less GPU... some time that help… with 10 or 11 can work but not 12...

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Quote from: Pica on July 22, 2020, 04:08:33 PM

All the HW work fine independently.
The system no boot with more than 9 GPUs. Fail before the BIOS post screen. Sad

That doesn't leave much. Power is still the first suspect.

Pica

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Quote from: geck on July 22, 2020, 03:43:46 PM

I currently have it running 12 gpus. I didn't need to change anything in the bios, however sometimes when it crashes and i do a power cycle, it will not boot up.
I'm able to get it to boot by turning off half the rig to get into bios, and disable csm compatability (uefi only, no legacy). For some reason that setting gets toggled sometimes when the rig crashes.
HTH!

What GPUs did you has?
You are a lucky man!

Pica

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Quote from: JayDDee on July 22, 2020, 01:30:16 PM

First make sure all the HW works independently. Test all GPUs, risers and PCIe slots
in different combinations.

Try booting plain Ubuntu live.

Also describe the boot failure in more detail. Does it fail while booting the OS or does
it fail before that? Any console messages?

All the HW work fine independently.
The system no boot with more than 9 GPUs. Fail before the BIOS post screen. Sad

geck

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I currently have it running 12 gpus. I didn't need to change anything in the bios, however sometimes when it crashes and i do a power cycle, it will not boot up.
I'm able to get it to boot by turning off half the rig to get into bios, and disable csm compatability (uefi only, no legacy). For some reason that setting gets toggled sometimes when the rig crashes.
HTH!

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