Topic: "Assassination Market". Potential hostage crisis brewing. Need game theory - page 2. (Read 3967 times)
November 19, 2013, 09:51:51 PM
waste of btc for all parties involved. i'm guessing it's a scam that won't last long.
November 19, 2013, 09:24:56 PM
Chaos means you don't have time to keep up with all the freedom. Just ride it.
What you think is correct has nothing to do with it.
There will be too much shit each of us don't agree with nor understand in the same shared way.
Bottom-up, individualism is a bitch of an adjustment psychologically when you've been accustomed to top-down, collectivism.
Fuck the regulators. You won't be able to control a damn thing, except maybe yourself.
What you think is correct has nothing to do with it.
There will be too much shit each of us don't agree with nor understand in the same shared way.
Bottom-up, individualism is a bitch of an adjustment psychologically when you've been accustomed to top-down, collectivism.
Fuck the regulators. You won't be able to control a damn thing, except maybe yourself.
November 19, 2013, 09:14:48 PM
Who will have time to take down sites?
I didn't suggest taking the site down by force. I'm suggesting somehow talking to him so he changes his mind. The difference is important.
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There's your game theory. Chaos my friend. You are not prepared. No one is.
But we can choose what kind of chaos we want to live in. I would prefer a nice kind. November 19, 2013, 09:00:15 PM
Stick with Alex Jones and Peter Schiff.
Max Keiser is just hyping the cryptocoins to make money.
Furthermore, false flags happen all the time around us. We just don't pay attention to them. They usually don't affect us.
In fact rather than less false flags, we should assume more should occur as people come to the realisation that agencies and even small organisations (bikies and gangs) have the opportunity to launch one!
Max Keiser is just hyping the cryptocoins to make money.
Furthermore, false flags happen all the time around us. We just don't pay attention to them. They usually don't affect us.
In fact rather than less false flags, we should assume more should occur as people come to the realisation that agencies and even small organisations (bikies and gangs) have the opportunity to launch one!
November 19, 2013, 09:00:01 PM
"False flag" is being called so often these days that it is losing any genuine meaning.
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
Yup, if you cant prove it you must be a conspiracy nut (unless you're talking about WMD's and terrorists ofc).
You mean like in Syria recently the terrorists spilled sarin gas in their own neighborhoods and they cut off the arms and legs of a Christian girl and waited for the quite a considerable length of time for her to die.
So many conspiracies, so many dead people, so little time. I see a bright chaotic future ahead as the the global debt contagion takes hold around 2016.
Who will have time to be a conspiracy nut?
Who will have time to take down sites?
There's your game theory. Chaos my friend. You are not prepared. No one is.
November 19, 2013, 08:59:07 PM
"False flag" is being called so often these days that it is losing any genuine meaning.
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
Yup, if you cant prove it you must be a conspiracy nut (unless you're talking about WMD's and terrorists ofc).
Guys, let's not get caught up in the semantics. Someone did it. They picked a really good moment (for them) with maximum public exposure. We don't know who this "Samurai" guy is, and I don't see how finding out would even be helpful, unless it somehow helps in talking him into taking the site down.
November 19, 2013, 08:47:33 PM
A) Someone's "art project";
B) Someone trolling the Bitcoin community;
C) Someone trolling the sometimes-parallel-sometimes-not 'anarcho'-capitalist community;
D) Someone's giant "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M EDGY" attention-seeking statement to the world;
E) A potential opportunity for some guy to scam a bunch of BTC from white males with anger issues.
Thanks.B) Someone trolling the Bitcoin community;
C) Someone trolling the sometimes-parallel-sometimes-not 'anarcho'-capitalist community;
D) Someone's giant "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M EDGY" attention-seeking statement to the world;
E) A potential opportunity for some guy to scam a bunch of BTC from white males with anger issues.
Not to belittle your post but I really wish I could believe in those, even the scam one.
"False flag" is being called so often these days that it is losing any genuine meaning.
Understood. I used the same words others were using in the press thread.Quote
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
fear.I have a bad feeling/hunch that that site could be an ignition point for a whole lot of problems.
What do we do?
November 19, 2013, 08:38:20 PM
"False flag" is being called so often these days that it is losing any genuine meaning.
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
Plus it's too often the argument from ignorance - "Well, what else could it possibly be?"
November 19, 2013, 08:33:30 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2013-11-18-zero-hedge-bitcoin-based-bounty-for-bernankes-assassination-337897
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
In this case, I call bullshit as well and have concluded it's:
A) Someone's "art project";
B) Someone trolling the Bitcoin community;
C) Someone trolling the sometimes-parallel-sometimes-not 'anarcho'-capitalist community;
D) Someone's giant "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M EDGY" attention-seeking statement to the world;
E) A potential opportunity for some guy to scam a bunch of BTC from white males with anger issues.
I think a "false flag" is pushing it. The simplest answer is always the best.
Occam's Razor is a fuzzy heuristic not a never fail rule. Any programmer should know the difference in reliability of a heuristic and a deterministic algorithm.
I say the secret agencies of government are planting these so they can ramp up regulation over time.
Remember Rumsfield admitted the $trillions in black budget missing from the Dept of Defense. Former Asst to Secretary of HUD, Catherine Austin Fitts also documents this black budget at her http://solari.com
Then the next day all the proof was destroyed when WTC7 fell free-fall perfectly onto its base footprint (demolition style) without a plane ever hitting it. Armstrong's evidence (confiscated by the SEC in his bogus contempt case) linking the NY Club bankers to the Russian mob was also destroyed in WTC7. Who knows how much SEC paperwork was lost. Convenient.
Sorry it wasn't done by a few guys riding camels.
Objective truth doesn't have to hurt:
http://ae911truth.org
2000 architechs and engineers say so
November 19, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2013-11-18-zero-hedge-bitcoin-based-bounty-for-bernankes-assassination-337897
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
In this case, I call bullshit as well and have concluded it's:
A) Someone's "art project";
B) Someone trolling the Bitcoin community;
C) Someone trolling the sometimes-parallel-sometimes-not 'anarcho'-capitalist community;
D) Someone's giant "HEY LOOK AT ME I'M EDGY" attention-seeking statement to the world;
E) A potential opportunity for some guy to scam a bunch of BTC from white males with anger issues.
I think a "false flag" is pushing it. The simplest answer is always the best.
November 19, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
Yes, I think someone even talked about it in the 2012 Bitcoin conference, but now that "normal" people are sending the RT link around on Facebook, whole new game plan.
Option 1:
They swoop in and somehow botch the arrest. He becomes a martyr. Newer, better, sites doing the same thing pop up.
Option 2:
Ignore, ignore, laugh, etc. And before you know it. One million dollars on Obama's head, and wouldn't you know it? Someone "predicts correctly".
Apart from sounding almost as unbelievable and crazy as Bitcoin itself, plz tell what's stopping either of those 2 options?
November 19, 2013, 08:19:12 PM
November 19, 2013, 08:15:55 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2013-11-18-zero-hedge-bitcoin-based-bounty-for-bernankes-assassination-337897
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
However...
on RT:
http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-assassination-market-anarchist-983/
Did I read that right?
How long did it take for fucking Silk Road to get taken down? 2, 3 years? Who gives a fuck about "whodunnit" and "oh it's just another bad press false flag by the haters."
What if they "can't" take that website down because of say, magic wikileaks servers or some similar excuse??
UPDATE:
This is how I see things potentially playing out. At first, nobody takes the threat seriously. Everyone who has followed Bitcoin has seen so many scams and would-be disasters that were supposed to destroy Bitcoin but failed, that we've become numb to it all.
Occasionally a few coins get deposited, and it's seen as black humour for the lulz. Who cares if it's probably a scam and the creators will disappear with the money? It's Bitcoin -- stuff like that happens all the time. It's a risk people take when trying to remain anonymous, and 2-party escrow is still in beta. Authorities probably could take down the website if they wanted to. IF.
Meanwhile, the funds slowly add up and eventually they reach a tipping point. Whether it's because of slow accumulation or rising exchange rate doesn't matter. Some big-name politician gets killed, and that's when the SHTF.
Suddenly, the news is 100 times worse than Silk Road ever was. Massive regulation ensues. Innocent Bitcoin enthusiasts, miners, early adopters, and developers get arrested. Masses of people who don't care about any alternative political systems like Laissez-faire, Anarchy, Anarcho-Capitalism, Libertarianism, Zeitgeist Movement, etc., they see this from the POV of "normal" people: murder caused by Bitcoin and therefore it must be stopped.
And who gains in all of this? Not some phantom government which is supposedly evil and coercive -- they're just taking bribes like all good Capitalists. It's the fucking dinosaur banking sector.
TL;DR: Someone made an "assassination market" website in plain sight... false flag, predictable timing with the bubble/politics/press coverage and shit like that.
However...
on RT:
http://rt.com/news/bitcoin-assassination-market-anarchist-983/
Quote
Sanjuro’s FAQ shows that he is aware of the imminent prospect of arrest.
“All the money will be confiscated by the state, and I will probably be killed or spend a considerable portion of my life in jail. Provided the system is a success, of course. Which I am hoping for.”
“All the money will be confiscated by the state, and I will probably be killed or spend a considerable portion of my life in jail. Provided the system is a success, of course. Which I am hoping for.”
Did I read that right?
How long did it take for fucking Silk Road to get taken down? 2, 3 years? Who gives a fuck about "whodunnit" and "oh it's just another bad press false flag by the haters."
What if they "can't" take that website down because of say, magic wikileaks servers or some similar excuse??
UPDATE:
This is how I see things potentially playing out. At first, nobody takes the threat seriously. Everyone who has followed Bitcoin has seen so many scams and would-be disasters that were supposed to destroy Bitcoin but failed, that we've become numb to it all.
Occasionally a few coins get deposited, and it's seen as black humour for the lulz. Who cares if it's probably a scam and the creators will disappear with the money? It's Bitcoin -- stuff like that happens all the time. It's a risk people take when trying to remain anonymous, and 2-party escrow is still in beta. Authorities probably could take down the website if they wanted to. IF.
Meanwhile, the funds slowly add up and eventually they reach a tipping point. Whether it's because of slow accumulation or rising exchange rate doesn't matter. Some big-name politician gets killed, and that's when the SHTF.
Suddenly, the news is 100 times worse than Silk Road ever was. Massive regulation ensues. Innocent Bitcoin enthusiasts, miners, early adopters, and developers get arrested. Masses of people who don't care about any alternative political systems like Laissez-faire, Anarchy, Anarcho-Capitalism, Libertarianism, Zeitgeist Movement, etc., they see this from the POV of "normal" people: murder caused by Bitcoin and therefore it must be stopped.
And who gains in all of this? Not some phantom government which is supposedly evil and coercive -- they're just taking bribes like all good Capitalists. It's the fucking dinosaur banking sector.
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