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Topic: ASUS B250 Mining Expert MB - 19 Cards! - page 7. (Read 31101 times)

newbie
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Hi All,

I've seen alot of people mentioning that they have 13 GPU's up on this board, I have a question or two for those people.

 I've had this board for close to 6 months while only running with 7 RX580's, its been rock solid. Today I managed to get my grubby paws on 6 1070 ti's, but, I cannot get the board to see the 13th GPU, it always comes up with the 13th slot saying that there is an error detecting the card in it (it posts but slot B12 always comes up in error state on the post screen). I've tried different risers, usb cable, gen-1 pcie modules, even swapped the cards in that slot, but, it just wont see it.

Is there a specific slot order, or, placement of the amd/nvidia cards that needs to happen for this board to see all 13 gpu's?

At the moment, I have 7 x rx 580's plugged into PCIEX16_1 and slots A01 - A06, the nvidia 1070 ti's are plugged into slots B07 - B12, I'm just wondering if there is a specific slot order for nvidia/amd that needs to be done for it to detect all 13 gpu's.

How have you guys n gals plugged you amd/nvidia gpu's into your boards to get it to detect all 13 gpus?

Any thoughts / tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for reading thus far.
jr. member
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A P106 is a 1060 with no video outs.  As far as the limitation goes on the m/b im not sure exactly why ASUS ended up with that setup.  Couldve been on purpose or the limitation is created by components on the m/b or there just isnt physically enough space on the m/b for needed components to support 6 more true GPU's.

Stop trolling, you are not helping, there is nothing to do physically with the motherboard.

Where in my quote did I say anything about "doing something with the m/b"?  Now whos the troll?
hero member
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it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
what's special about the P106-100 that this board prefers them? i've read a lot of thread and seen the example photos but i don't know how the P106 is markedly different from the gtx1060

I believe mining cards operate in TCC mode by default. In BBT's testing with the Asus B250 Mining expert and how many cards he could run, he mentioned the mining cards were running in TCC mode instead of WDDM mode used by standard gaming GPU's. BBT had to download mining specific drivers for the mining cards to be detected by the OS, so it could also be a limitation with how many cards standard drivers will run in WDDM mode VS in TCC mode.

https://docs.nvidia.com/gameworks/content/developertools/desktop/nsight/tesla_compute_cluster.htm

https://youtu.be/TzuSwO6I_oA?t=113
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
A P106 is a 1060 with no video outs.  As far as the limitation goes on the m/b im not sure exactly why ASUS ended up with that setup.  Couldve been on purpose or the limitation is created by components on the m/b or there just isnt physically enough space on the m/b for needed components to support 6 more true GPU's.

Stop trolling, you are not helping, there is nothing to do physically with the motherboard.
jr. member
Activity: 234
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it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
what's special about the P106-100 that this board prefers them? i've read a lot of thread and seen the example photos but i don't know how the P106 is markedly different from the gtx1060
A P106 is a 1060 with no video outs.  As far as the limitation goes on the m/b im not sure exactly why ASUS ended up with that setup.  Couldve been on purpose or the limitation is created by components on the m/b or there just isnt physically enough space on the m/b for needed components to support 6 more true GPU's.
newbie
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It's a great 13-card board too!


No soubt about that. Been running since february with no downtime.
newbie
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It's a great 13-card board too!
newbie
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and have you tried reaching out to ASUS to discuss a possible fix?

They have known before they created the motherboard, this is a mining motherboard, they can say only mining cards and you can't sue them, end of discussion, there is no fix unless a competitor comes and offers real 19 gaming gpus then they will release a bios that supports all 19 gaming gpus, this is about competition and it seems all other manufactures are offering only 13 gaming gpus. Call it a manufacture's mafia.
thanks for your insight
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
and have you tried reaching out to ASUS to discuss a possible fix?

They have known before they created the motherboard, this is a mining motherboard, they can say only mining cards and you can't sue them, end of discussion, there is no fix unless a competitor comes and offers real 19 gaming gpus then they will release a bios that supports all 19 gaming gpus, this is about competition and it seems all other manufactures are offering only 13 gaming gpus. Call it a manufacture's mafia.
newbie
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i never thought about that... so it sounds like you're saying this might be a BIOS limitation?

I said countless of times IT IS a bios limitation.
and have you tried reaching out to ASUS to discuss a possible fix?
sr. member
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Xtreme Monster
i never thought about that... so it sounds like you're saying this might be a BIOS limitation?

I said countless of times IT IS a bios limitation.
newbie
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It is ment for mining. No display output. And only a few months warranty.

well i know that but my question is why does the board itself care what kind of cards you install? shouldn't it be the OS/drivers that care?

video cards probably tell the bios they need specific resources (irq, i/o and memory ranges) to display video. mining cards do not need those all resources and dont ask for them. since there are only so many resources  available to a bios there will be an upper limit for pure video cards.

at least that my guess.

i never thought about that... so it sounds like you're saying this might be a BIOS limitation?
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

It is ment for mining. No display output. And only a few months warranty.

well i know that but my question is why does the board itself care what kind of cards you install? shouldn't it be the OS/drivers that care?

video cards probably tell the bios they need specific resources (irq, i/o and memory ranges) to display video. mining cards do not need those all resources and dont ask for them. since there are only so many resources  available to a bios there will be an upper limit for pure video cards.

at least that my guess.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
what's special about the P106-100 that this board prefers them? i've read a lot of thread and seen the example photos but i don't know how the P106 is markedly different from the gtx1060

It is ment for mining. No display output. And only a few months warranty.

well i know that but my question is why does the board itself care what kind of cards you install? shouldn't it be the OS/drivers that care?
newbie
Activity: 312
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
what's special about the P106-100 that this board prefers them? i've read a lot of thread and seen the example photos but i don't know how the P106 is markedly different from the gtx1060

It is ment for mining. No display output. And only a few months warranty.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
what's special about the P106-100 that this board prefers them? i've read a lot of thread and seen the example photos but i don't know how the P106 is markedly different from the gtx1060
newbie
Activity: 106
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday

never tried...based on what i'm reading.  it won't happen unless it's a mining card (which I can't seem to find it cheap) or else it'll be nice to max them out Smiley

I have/had 3 13 gpu running (sold 1 that had 13 1050 ti's) with this board without any issues.  I tried the asrock one and for some reason..I was having issue running x16r algorithm (it'll randomly shut down).  Finally I got pissed and bought another b250 board from microcenter ($109) and replaced the motherboard on the same set up....starts right up and it hasn't shut down on me for 2 straight days now..
jr. member
Activity: 234
Merit: 2
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
For the millionth and one time in this thread...13 GPUs will work just fine but #14 - #19 has to be a P series card. IE: P106-100.

And there is no need to keep with the same brand or model series.  The board doesnt care when it comes to using #1 - #13 cards.  Troubleshooting is the same no matter what brand or series card used.
newbie
Activity: 24
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..

i have some experience with about other motherboards but i always prefer to keep the gpus the same brand/style. evga 1060, pny 1080ti, msi 580. it makes it not only easier for bookkeeping for troubleshooting as well. i was just wondering why so many people were mixing gpus with this thing? i just setup this board about 10 minutes ago with 6 pny 1060 6gb, i'm about to go try to add 6 more.

have you tried getting more than 13 gpus on this thing?

edit: got 12 running fine, gonna try to do 16 on monday
newbie
Activity: 106
Merit: 0
it looks like almost everyone with this board is running a combination of amd and nvidia cards? any reason not to do all amd or all nvidia? is anyone using simplemining? are all 3 molex/ATX connectors necessary? i have a server psu with a breakout board and i'm still playing with various mobo/cpu/card combinations trying to find the ideal one. having a lot of issues with the asrock h81 pro btc 2.0 and simplemining :/

I'm running on 2 13 gpu nvidia rigs using this mobo without any problems....only problem i have is the heat Smiley  I find it easier to not mix amd and nvidia to be honest with you..
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