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December 22, 2019, 09:34:47 AM
Stop it Choong, stop replying them and wasting your time, concentrate on bringing down Chipmixer just like how they brought you down with allegations, Chipmixer is actually operated by FBI? Work along this line and in 3 months, they are finished
December 22, 2019, 09:27:24 AM
I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?
so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature
Something you specifically refrain from doing. (Despite it costing less than 10 minutes to implement).
its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.
... You (purposefully) don't get what he said?.. ...You can always say that, whether the adress was right or wrong."Oops, you pasted your adress wrong, the money is ours now!"
-- Adding another unnecessary factor of trust.
We have confirmed that clearly in the past , if wrong address is entered , the money becomes ours
Users are advised to check their address before mixing.
Its users responsibility to ensure the address is correct.
If correct address is entered, then the mixing is done in a proper safe manner and logs are deleted after mixing.
We are the only mixer uses MP2C system where since we have so much of funds, the receiving pool and sending pool is totally different, we receive from one pool and send from a totally different pool.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 22, 2019, 09:15:28 AM
I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?
so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature
Something you specifically refrain from doing. (Despite it costing less than 10 minutes to implement).
Also, the argument was never about a wrong adress- it was about an INVALID adress. "Ebay" won't keep your money if you entered an invalid shipping adress, while at the same time not sending anything out....
its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.
... You (purposefully) don't get what he said?.. ...You can always say that, whether the adress was right or wrong."Oops, you pasted your adress wrong, the money is ours now!"
-- Adding another unnecessary factor of trust.
I already know what your reply to this is going to be: "Muh M2POPOCPO code" - Yeah, you only store that for 24H, and the customer has another hoop to jump through, while he still doesn't know whether you're being malicious, or if it's actually their own fault. -- That also didn't work last time, right? The code was already deleted when you found out 106$ was stuck.
If you have the best intentions for your customers, i really, really don't understand why you're being so stubborn about trivial things such as this.
December 22, 2019, 08:20:04 AM
If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.
"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"
Leeme put that like this:
You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.
With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.
Another Chipmixer agent talking about stealing funds,
its actually simple, you enter the correct address and you get your funds mixed in a secured manner, if you enter a wrong address, we cant trackback your correct address. We are in the mixing business not in mind reading business , we cant read your mind if you put a wrong address and expect us to magically know your right address.
I dont understand your point here ... you are speaking on behalf of almost negligible amount of people who is dumb enough to put a wrong address and expect to get their funds ?
so you go to ebay and buy stuff and put a wrong address and you blame ebay for sending the item to the wrong address ?? be sensible
your argument is immature
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 22, 2019, 07:36:04 AM
If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button.
"Our system has detected wrong address, we are terrible sorry but your monez is ours now"Leeme put that like this:
You are trying to say that if someone enters correct address, you can just go with "you didn't enter correct address" and steal funds, there is probably no possible way for customer to prove that they entered "good" address.
With all things said in this thread and your not professional behavior, I don't see any logical explanation why anyone should use this service.
December 22, 2019, 04:27:52 AM
OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.
I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.
I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:
To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and but had not actually tested the system themself
There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen.Are you being a chipmixer bias marketing agents ?
Re: [ANN] ChipMixer.com - Bitcoin mixer / Bitcoin tumbler - mixing reinvented
Today at 06:14:53 AM
we have collaborated with 37 websites "Top 10 mixers" ranked on google search and we have ommited chipmixer from the list as they practice unmoral advertising strategies . The signature campaign AdolfinWolf and TryNinja just goes around making unjust remarks on other mixers without actually testing the services is a very bias marketing strategy thats tarnishes the good image of ChipMixer
We are taking actions against Chipmixer on a global level for all this bias agents unjust remarks on other services
December 22, 2019, 04:23:14 AM
Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....
Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" (
) All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)
) All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts
the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.
I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.
I dont understand your claims, If you send bitcoin to a wrong address , even through a normal bitcoin transfer p2p , thats just stupidity. Its users responsibility to enter the right address
December 22, 2019, 03:55:11 AM
OP keeps creating new ANN-threads, trying to get rid of the negative posts. Unfortunately for him, Mods keep deleting them because it's against the forum rules.
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.
I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:
He now changed the thread title to Remote Control RFID, trying to hide the negative comments.
I see several red flags here that remind me of another mixer that turned into a scam.
Example:
To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and but had not actually tested the system themself
There's no reason to test a service that you don't trust. Even if they wouldn't steal a small amount, this post is what's expected when someone's building up to selective scamming. Like BITMIXCOIN.IO scam confirmed: 16+ Bitcoin stolen. 
December 21, 2019, 11:33:17 AM
Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....
Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)
) All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts
the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
That must have been the stupidities thing I have ever read a mixer admin say. A integrity check literally costs nothing else to you and can be done in less than 20 minutes by someone with a basic coding knowledge. Literally just google what you gotta check and use it. There are tons of fully working examples everywhere.
I must say that I never really recommended people to NOT use a mixer, but yours will be the 2nd or 3rd. Why the heck should anyone use your mixer when YOU LITERALLY WANT TO PROFIT FROM “STUPIDITY” (honest mistakes)? FFS.
December 21, 2019, 11:22:39 AM
To those who just made unjust remarks on our mixer and question the reliability and but had not actually tested the system themself
and to those paranoid people who knows how to only criticize (bet your life is not that great having this kind of attitude)
We have someone tested the services and our mixer is on the trusted list
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2023-bitcoin-5129376
⭐Name: AtoB Mixer
🔹Clearnet ccылкa: https://www.atobmixer.com/
🔹Tor ccылкa: atobmix5vwucluyj.onion
🔹Ccылкa нa Bitcointalk тeмy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atob-mixer-official-review-announcements-news-reports-5207219
🔹Кoмиccия: oт 1% дo 2.99% (+ кoмиccия ceти. Moжeт быть paзнoй)
Thumbs up for the Russians
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
and to those paranoid people who knows how to only criticize (bet your life is not that great having this kind of attitude)
We have someone tested the services and our mixer is on the trusted list
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2023-bitcoin-5129376
⭐Name: AtoB Mixer
🔹Clearnet ccылкa: https://www.atobmixer.com/
🔹Tor ccылкa: atobmix5vwucluyj.onion
🔹Ccылкa нa Bitcointalk тeмy: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/atob-mixer-official-review-announcements-news-reports-5207219
🔹Кoмиccия: oт 1% дo 2.99% (+ кoмиccия ceти. Moжeт быть paзнoй)
Thumbs up for the Russians
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 20, 2019, 04:57:34 PM
Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)
) All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.)If they enter a wrong address its our money, lemme put that in capital, IF CUSTOMER WRONGLY INPUT THE ADDRESS, THE MONEY IS OURS. We have a big notice for customers to ensure the address is right before clicking the submit button. Hope this clears all doubts
the 106USD was a glitch caused by user because user used a bot to flood our system and crashed our PHP processor , we still offer a refund because its was a glitch, guess what, user never came back asking a refund, that money now is our profit. lemme put that in capital... THE 106 USD BECAME OUR PROFIT SINCE USER DIDNT ASK FOR A REFUND
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 20, 2019, 04:40:12 PM
we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.ATOBMIXER ADMIN
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plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
...And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?
Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins
SWIM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable
they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?
they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?
Yes yes yes that's how it works, the moral of the story is, don't be stupid and put the right address when doing a mixing and nothing goes wrong, you will get a well mixed coins using MP2C System which only can be done if you have tonssss of Bitcoin. The wrong Addess method is for our internal use to declare profit in our lost and found account. Finally you getting the point here....
December 20, 2019, 04:28:53 PM
Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins
SWIM
I have no words. Why did you decide to post this from an account you used to promote your own mixer in the past?SWIM
This site https://www.atobmixer.com AtoBMixer offering monero mixer, why use mixer for monero ? taught monero was untraceable
they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?
they also offer mixing for 16 different altcoin
but mixing monero is not worth it or am i missing something here ?
I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.
""She"" made a bunch of stupid nonsensical statements. I fail to see how that equates being a genius, but i suspect you know something here that i don't.Quote
I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying
Who talks about 17.2 Million, who talks about "allegations" () All i've done is pointing out observable facts. namely that your fix isn't actually a fix, and whether you actually know it isn't, or that this is just a ploy to get more of your customer's funds. (you already "earned" 106$ due to a "lost and found" case, right? You stated that yourself.) December 20, 2019, 04:25:09 PM
we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.ATOBMIXER ADMIN
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plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
...And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?
Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins
SWIM
I have no idea who that was , but She must be a genius.
I have no idea if the allegations are true , but our mixer if functioning for public and if you have not tried, dont just assume with "What if" statements, if your coins go missing in our mixer, talk about it here, else i would just feel you are just paranoid and think too much and a USD 20 to test the system before making any statements is a big money for you... USD20 is peanuts to if you have 17.2 Million USD in your account, just saying
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 20, 2019, 04:14:21 PM
we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Quote
plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
...And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?
Because you only undertand the small picture, the bigger picture is, it's never to make money from mixing which is what like 1-3 percent?? We just wanna show that we are also doing public mixing and if there is an error in input and we can't mix, the fund is ours, this is where we can channel our private client's money to legal profit and pay tax, so when we use our own mixer, and the mixer unable to send the coins due to deliberately caused error, that becomes profit in our accounting, and we pay tax and clean the money. So why not u kids just go play far away on your own lil bubble because the godfathers has their plans and it was never to mix your kids coins
SWIM
December 20, 2019, 03:44:26 PM
we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Your reply once again proves your ignorance. I really, really doubt you actually know what you're doing.ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Quote
plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
...And so an integrity check is impossible because... ?
December 20, 2019, 10:47:47 AM
Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?
Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.
we are not responsible for stupidity. We highlighted " ensure the address is correct" before pressing start mixing. plus bitcoin address doesnt have a fixed number of string.
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
December 20, 2019, 08:38:56 AM
2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue
We made the changes on both clear and TOR site
Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
***puff puff pass Thursday ***
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue
We made the changes on both clear and TOR site
Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
***puff puff pass Thursday ***
....
Damn. this isn't "ensures user enters a adress" it's "ensures user enters anything at all".
It solved exactly 0.
If someone now pastes in the adress with 1 character missing, what happens? You'll say it's valid, and then... you keep the money they send again?
Really, this if(input = any) check doesn't inspire great confidence you actually mix anything at all. But i've said this already.
December 19, 2019, 06:29:38 AM
Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,
That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.
Thanks to TryNinja's very constructive suggestion, we have made the changes :
1. This warns user to check their address before press mix now button
Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING
Ensure the addresses are correct before clicking STAR MIXING
2. ensures user enters a address to continue mixing
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue
ERROR : Value must be entered at 1st receiving address to continue
We made the changes on both clear and TOR site
Thank you for your suggestion and we have made improvements
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
***puff puff pass Thursday ***
December 18, 2019, 11:27:51 AM
As suggested by TryNinja
we have added a warning line on our clearnet
thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
Since we are into suggestions and improvements, please add an address validation when the user starts mixing. I can leave all addresses field empty and the mixer will still proceed as usual. This means that if the user misstype his address, press an extra character or just forgets to input it, he won’t receive anything from the mixer,we have added a warning line on our clearnet
For hyper sensitive users, kindly use TOR link to ensure highest level of anonymity in mixing
thank you for your contribution and keeping the users warned and safe
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
That is a major issue. I’m not attacking you, I’m just pointing out a major flaw that could result in a lot of money lost from your customers. I would say this is an urgent matter and that you should fix it immediately after reading this.
Thats a valid consideration, will work on that, most likely will do a server side validation
Thanks for the suggestion
p/s : Today been a good mixing day... cant wait for the wallet integration
ATOBMIXER ADMIN
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