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hero member
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August 02, 2017, 02:53:19 AM
@Lauda or anyone else that has the knowledge, do you have any idea how to connect to a bitcoin cash node? It's really confusing because i downloaded the electron cash wallet, and it shows my balance in BCC units but when i send the BCC it actually sends it on the bitcoin blockchain instead of the bitcoin cash blockchain. Thankfully i didn't have a connection at the time meaning that i didn't send bitcoin to a bitcoin cash deposit address on an exchange which could have potentially caused a lot of unnecessary trouble.

Please let me know how i can connect to bitcoin cash nodes so i can send it to an exchange. Thank you.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 02:43:46 AM
Wait wait wait let me get this straight......you mean replay protection on the BTC network?Huh
There is a difference between one sided and double sided replay protection.

what should this have to do with BCH/BCC network.....I though at this point he blocks were different......
but I see what you mean......but its sold as psuedo replay protection is implemented on the BCH network........
Think of the block that BCH forked at as a "snapshot" of Bitcoin. If there is no replay protection, there is no reason (if there is no protection) for which transactions from one chain couldn't be broadcasted on the other one (as long as the funds haven't moved on the chain that you're rebroadcasting to).

what are the logistical hurdles to a replay attack in your view?
It can lead to a lot of confusion, chaos and even loss of funds.

can this ever be safe.

can you explicitly elaborate?
Yes. The problem with BCH is that they intentionally obfuscated the changes to their clients, making review hard. Once things have been adequately reviewed and tested, i.e. the replay protection has proven itself to be working, then you can 99.9% safely transact.

I move my BTC to a new BTC addresses..then move my BCC to new BCC addresses..then it should be immune to replay as there would be nothing to move in a replay attack?
You can do that, yes. However, I am not sure whether the proposed clients (e.g. Electron) don't have any malicious code in them.

Your technical points are quite excellent, thank you.
You're welcome.

I should have said "it's currently 'worth'...." Although some here claim to have dumped already.
I am assuming it is mostly people who had balances on exchanges that instantly credited BCH, thus they were able to dump.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 02:42:03 AM
has anyone after 1 august sent any transaction in BTC network - it is everything OK?
can I make today any BTC transfer?
Yep, seems to be working okay although depends on where you are sending your coins, Bittrex for example have upped their confirmations to 6 instead of 2 just to be safe.
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 02:25:14 AM
Great instructions. I guess it is best to wait right now until end of August as I see. We can safely deposit our bitcoins if we never claim our bcc right? I guess so. My bcc value is very insignificant so I am wondering if I can keep using my old "before the split" wallet with btc.
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 02:18:50 AM
Got private key...Electrum...And BCC manual servers I'm trying to connect to redeem my bcc are ''lagging''.

Anyone got an, up to date, solution to claim bcc via Electrum ?

Thank you.
newbie
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August 02, 2017, 02:13:30 AM
has anyone after 1 august sent any transaction in BTC network - it is everything OK?
can I make today any BTC transfer?
full member
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August 02, 2017, 02:11:54 AM
Market cap back to 100 000 000 000$. I think it's gonna be a great month for the crypto lovers. 
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Crypto Investor
August 02, 2017, 01:57:47 AM
I have private key , and want to get BCH coin .
Please suggest me best option because i have only a mobile only .

Could you please read this topic before asking.
newbie
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August 02, 2017, 01:54:31 AM
I have private key , and want to get BCH coin .
Please suggest me best option because i have only a mobile only .
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 01:48:22 AM
Thank you for the information you shared with us all.
I never thought I would be given the same amount of BCH from my BTC holdings.
I'm happy that I gained BCH from this rare event.
Now I will have to wait and see how it goes if I should sell or keep my BCH because right now it is Top 3 in bitcoinmarketcap behind ETH.
But the price of BCH is better as it is almost double of ETH.
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 01:46:19 AM
Can you suggest me what BCC wallet should i use?currently i don't trust any of the BCC wallet and i will wait until i hear other people's have success to claim their BCC.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 01:32:42 AM
It opened at $550.00

It's currently worth $286.43

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

It's worth a lot now, but might fade away.
The only reason for which it has any value is that it is not reasonably safe (if possible at all) to move BCH to an exchange and dump it.

"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?
If the replay protection isn't adequate, someone could simply rebroadcast your BCH transaction to the BTC network and your BTC would also be sent away. Additionally, I am unable to find an adequately tested wallet that I'd be okay enough to transact with.

I actually agree with you, hence my comment about not "throwing away the BTC with the bath water."

Your technical points are quite excellent, thank you.

I should have said "it's currently 'worth'...." Although some here claim to have dumped already.

I hope their BTC private keys are safe.

just sayin.
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Multiversum
August 02, 2017, 01:26:18 AM
I had some BTCs @GateHub. Is it possible to claim BCH now? How?
newbie
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August 02, 2017, 01:26:03 AM
I'm holding BTC in Mycelium Wallet. Where should I claim my BCH/BCC?

Thank You.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 01:23:50 AM
"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?

Surely that would send the value to near zero....?

same question ..

i am not interested to claim BCH at the moment because i don't wish to take risks for claiming pennies.

pennies? if you have 100 btc, you can claim 100 bcc which are 16 btc for free at the moment, not really peanuts...

How you going to do it?  Sounds pretty speculative to me, if there is not really any practical and realistic ability to accomplish such supposed 16% return.  So in that sense, 16% doesn't count as 16% if there is only a 1% chance of being able to carry it out.
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 01:22:49 AM
It opened at $550.00

It's currently worth $286.43

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

It's worth a lot now, but might fade away.
The only reason for which it has any value is that it is not reasonably safe (if possible at all) to move BCH to an exchange and dump it.

"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?
If the replay protection isn't adequate, someone could simply rebroadcast your BCH transaction to the BTC network and your BTC would also be sent away. Additionally, I am unable to find an adequately tested wallet that I'd be okay enough to transact with.

Wait wait wait let me get this straight......you mean replay protection on the BTC network?Huh

what should this have to do with BCH/BCC network.....

I though at this point he blocks were different......

but I see what you mean......but its sold as psuedo replay protection is implemented on the BCH network........

what are the logistical hurdles to a replay attack in your view?

can this ever be safe.

can you explicitly elaborate?

presumably if I have already sent by BTC to new addresses on the BTC network then this would not work,

but that seems not to be what to be said here ""then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

what if:::

I move my BTC to a new BTC addresses

then move my BCC to new BCC addresses

then it should be immune to replay as there would be nothing to move in a replay attack?

legendary
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August 02, 2017, 01:20:14 AM
"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?

Surely that would send the value to near zero....?

same question ..

i am not interested to claim BCH at the moment because i don't wish to take risks for claiming pennies.

pennies? if you have 100 btc, you can claim 100 bcc which are 16 btc for free at the moment, not really peanuts...
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August 02, 2017, 01:17:06 AM
I have got from Bittrex the equal Bitcoin Cash & its very nice!  Wink
legendary
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August 02, 2017, 01:05:01 AM
It opened at $550.00

It's currently worth $286.43

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/

It's worth a lot now, but might fade away.
The only reason for which it has any value is that it is not reasonably safe (if possible at all) to move BCH to an exchange and dump it.

"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?
If the replay protection isn't adequate, someone could simply rebroadcast your BCH transaction to the BTC network and your BTC would also be sent away. Additionally, I am unable to find an adequately tested wallet that I'd be okay enough to transact with.
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 12:53:53 AM
"then your BCH is likely (but not guaranteed) to remain associated with the current private keys due to BCH's pseudo-replay-protection;"

can you elaborate on this....under what conditions could your BCH not be still associated?

Surely that would send the value to near zero....?

same question ..

i am not interested to claim BCH at the moment because i don't wish to take risks for claiming pennies.
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