Australian Govt. form asks if I own any Bitcoin of Cryptocurrency - page 2.

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Quote from: awesome31312 on October 01, 2014, 09:00:03 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on October 01, 2014, 12:09:00 AM

It doesn't really matter about what I say on the form now, it is completely legal for the ~~Australia~~ America Secret Police to enter my house unannounced, install a bitcoin wallet on my computer, notify the welfare authorities, and if I tell anyone what happened I could face 10 years in jail.

edit. They could also shoot me and all my family and they can't be prosecuted and any journalist that reports on it can also receive 10 years in jail

You misspelled America

LOL - that's a good one.

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Quote from: Whtwabbit on October 01, 2014, 12:09:00 AM

It doesn't really matter about what I say on the form now, it is completely legal for the Australia Secret Police to enter my house unannounced, install a bitcoin wallet on my computer, notify the welfare authorities, and if I tell anyone what happened I could face 10 years in jail.

edit. They could also shoot me and all my family and they can't be prosecuted and any journalist that reports on it can also receive 10 years in jail

You misspelled America

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It doesn't really matter about what I say on the form now, it is completely legal for the Australia Secret Police to enter my house unannounced, install a bitcoin wallet on my computer, notify the welfare authorities, and if I tell anyone what happened I could face 10 years in jail.

edit. They could also shoot me and all my family and they can't be prosecuted and any journalist that reports on it can also receive 10 years in jail

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 30, 2014, 04:27:30 AM

Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:42:26 PM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 29, 2014, 07:34:21 PM

Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:31:29 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Why don't you create a brainwallet, and send the funds into that wallet. Then archive your old address.

Brilliant plan

Being sarcastic? Huh

No, I'm being honest

Hope so

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Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:42:26 PM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 29, 2014, 07:34:21 PM

Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:31:29 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Why don't you create a brainwallet, and send the funds into that wallet. Then archive your old address.

Brilliant plan

Being sarcastic? Huh

No, I'm being honest

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Quote from: Dabs on September 29, 2014, 09:48:44 PM

Question: Do you own any bitcoin?
Answer: I used to, but lost it all playing dice games.

lol, that's a great answer.

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Question: Do you own any bitcoin?
Answer: I used to, but lost it all playing dice games.

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Quote from: inBitweTrust on September 27, 2014, 09:44:01 PM

Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

I encourage others to avoid participating in the scam of Fiat as much as possible with encouraging trading on the grey and black markets. BTC and barter are great tools to accomplish this.

With regards to welfare this is a somewhat complicated ethical dilemma as one should weigh the moral obligations to ones neighbor with balancing ones right to recoup earlier and ongoing stolen funds that were taken through violence or coercion. Additionally, there could be justification if someone actively bled the state for ethical reasons and than dispersed said wealth amongst his peers. The circumstance and judgment of whether or not the poster is right to receive welfare is unknown as more information would be needed to debate the ethics.

I think this is pretty clear cut. If, he in any ways controls any bitcoin then he should say that he does own bitcoin and disclose the value. If he does anything other then this then he is outright lying and is effectively stealing from other taxpayers

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Quote from: awesome31312 on September 29, 2014, 07:34:21 PM

Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:31:29 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Why don't you create a brainwallet, and send the funds into that wallet. Then archive your old address.

Brilliant plan

Being sarcastic? Huh

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Quote from: monnecon on September 29, 2014, 07:31:29 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Why don't you create a brainwallet, and send the funds into that wallet. Then archive your old address.

Brilliant plan

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Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Why don't you create a brainwallet, and send the funds into that wallet. Then archive your old address.

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Quote from: gmx95 on September 29, 2014, 05:20:05 AM

If this is true and such form exists, its very silly. If the person aswers No, how would someone be able to check if he is telling the truth?

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If this is true and such form exists, its very silly. If the person aswers No, how would someone be able to check if he is telling the truth?

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Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 08:53:04 PM

Quote from: valiron on September 27, 2014, 07:41:46 PM

Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

Where do you guys think this disability money comes from?

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

(And yeah, it is in australia but people will be doing this in your country to you)

Forgetting the private key is disgraceful, more so since it was because of brain surgery. How you dare accusing him of fraud?

In my country the politicians are the ones stealing money from my pocket...the moral obligation is to not cooperate with their robbery.

He didn't forget his private key, that is what people are suggesting he says he does. I could comment about your reading comprehension but you probably would not understand me.

You don't get it, don't you? I think you are the one with impaired coprehension.

You don't know what he knows or he doesn't. If you know prove it or shut up.

For proof scroll up, I can only go on what he says, and he did not say he forgot his private key.

Others have said he should, he has said "Sometimes I forget things. Sometimes, later on, I remember them again. Nobody can blame you for that. Grin " that infers the opposite (even if it were true, he could just write it down when he remembers).

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Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 08:53:04 PM

Quote from: valiron on September 27, 2014, 07:41:46 PM

Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

Where do you guys think this disability money comes from?

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

(And yeah, it is in australia but people will be doing this in your country to you)

Forgetting the private key is disgraceful, more so since it was because of brain surgery. How you dare accusing him of fraud?

In my country the politicians are the ones stealing money from my pocket...the moral obligation is to not cooperate with their robbery.

He didn't forget his private key, that is what people are suggesting he says he does. I could comment about your reading comprehension but you probably would not understand me.

You don't get it, don't you? I think you are the one with impaired coprehension.

You don't know what he knows or he doesn't. If you know prove it or shut up.

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I'd just say NO, there is no real way for them to tell if I do or if I don't Wink

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Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

I encourage others to avoid participating in the scam of Fiat as much as possible with encouraging trading on the grey and black markets. BTC and barter are great tools to accomplish this.

With regards to welfare this is a somewhat complicated ethical dilemma as one should weigh the moral obligations to ones neighbor with balancing ones right to recoup earlier and ongoing stolen funds that were taken through violence or coercion. Additionally, there could be justification if someone actively bled the state for ethical reasons and than dispersed said wealth amongst his peers. The circumstance and judgment of whether or not the poster is right to receive welfare is unknown as more information would be needed to debate the ethics.

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Quote from: valiron on September 27, 2014, 07:41:46 PM

Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

Where do you guys think this disability money comes from?

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

(And yeah, it is in australia but people will be doing this in your country to you)

Forgetting the private key is disgraceful, more so since it was because of brain surgery. How you dare accusing him of fraud?

In my country the politicians are the ones stealing money from my pocket...the moral obligation is to not cooperate with their robbery.

He didn't forget his private key, that is what people are suggesting he says he does. I could comment about your reading comprehension but you probably would not understand me.

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Quote from: valiron on September 27, 2014, 05:28:41 PM

Quote from: awesome31312 on September 27, 2014, 05:23:01 PM

Quote from: valiron on September 27, 2014, 05:08:31 PM

Quote from: Whtwabbit on September 26, 2014, 12:33:35 AM

I recently had a brain tumor removed and I had my right side Balance hearing mechanics removed, I am applying for disability until i recover.

Filling out the form I came across the question "Do you own any bitcoin or cryptocurrency"

Comments?

Answer none since your brainwallet was damaged. It may recover in the future Grin

That was very clever, made me laugh

It is funny but serious. Ownership can only be defined as "knowing your private key". Sometimes I forget things. Sometimes, later on, I remember them again. Nobody can blame you for that. Grin

The kind of activity/statement you are implying that should be made would be considered fraud by a reasonable person.

Also a person really does not "know" what their private key is, as in have it memorized, rather they have it stored on some kind of file, usually on their computer or other electronic storage device, making the argument that you "forgot" the priv key invalid

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Quote from: MineForeman.com on September 27, 2014, 07:13:03 PM

Where do you guys think this disability money comes from?

It is from YOUR pocket, why are you encouraging people to fraudulently steal from you?

(And yeah, it is in australia but people will be doing this in your country to you)

Forgetting the private key is disgraceful, more so since it was because of brain surgery. How you dare accusing him of fraud?

In my country the politicians are the ones stealing money from my pocket...the moral obligation is to not cooperate with their robbery.

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