Topic: Avalon A10 series announced - page 5. (Read 4167 times)
A10 at stock spec is best over s15, m10, m10s. Pricing at 1.2k on canaan's site is pretty on par with the way this market is now. I believe the July release is the only barrier to making it a no brainer.
Yes, you made a case about the cost already, not sure why you are repeating it, but you stated "and had better specs than this asic."
Which is what I was correcting.
... though I will add that Canaan has the best record for reliability and support ...
Which is what I was correcting.
... though I will add that Canaan has the best record for reliability and support ...
Will def agree on that. Not that I have any any issues at all with my m10's but just in general. Canaans reliability I know for years to be well.
My bad, and my m10 never runs 71w/th lmao. It's def more like 60w-65/th- and literally half the price... shipped. So... m10 avg is like 65w/th (normal power) and 33th at $780 shipped vs 56w/th (normal power assuming) 31th $1500 + shipping. Like.. seriously. I mean hey, if people are willing to pay literally double the price for.. a little less power used then more power to them. On paper though that sounds like a absolutely absurd idea.
Yes, you made a case about the cost already, not sure why you are repeating it, but you stated "and had better specs than this asic."
Which is what I was correcting.
... though I will add that Canaan has the best record for reliability and support ...
No the M10 didn't.
Simple math:
The M10 is around 71W/Th in normal running mode 31/34TH
The A10 claimed specs are 56W/Th in normal running mode 31TH
Simple math:
The M10 is around 71W/Th in normal running mode 31/34TH
The A10 claimed specs are 56W/Th in normal running mode 31TH
My bad, and my m10 never runs 71w/th lmao. It's def more like 60w-65/th- and literally half the price... shipped. So... m10 avg is like 65w/th (normal power) and 33th at $780 shipped vs 56w/th (normal power assuming) 31th $1500 + shipping. Like.. seriously. I mean hey, if people are willing to pay literally double the price for.. a little less power used then more power to them. On paper though that sounds like a absolutely absurd idea.
Canaan makes great hardware no doubt. This just.. simply is priced too high for what it is unfortunately. Please keep in mind the m10 was under $800 not too long ago and had better specs than this asic.
No the M10 didn't.Simple math:
The M10 is around 71W/Th in normal running mode 31/34TH
Better than 71W/Th was only gained by lowering the hash rate.
The A10 claimed specs are 56W/Th in normal running mode 31TH
No idea how good these will be with a lower hash rate - but the Avalon it's possible for full control of the Freq/Volt from the web page.
Canaan makes great hardware no doubt. This just.. simply is priced too high for what it is unfortunately. Please keep in mind the m10 was under $800 not too long ago and had better specs than this asic.
it may be a bit more efficient somewhere I saw 50 watts a th as best number and the m10 was more like 58 watts a th at best number.
Canaan makes great hardware no doubt. This just.. simply is priced too high for what it is unfortunately. Please keep in mind the m10 was under $800 not too long ago and had better specs than this asic.
... and some info that no one already knows 
It's AB (overt of course)
... and I checked one mining on the pool, it was getting 31.89TH/s for an hour of shares.It's AB (overt of course)
(advertised rate is 31+TH/s)
We got solid confirm on pricing. Thanks to everyone from Canaan we've been talking with lately.
... and some info that no one already knows
It's AB (overt of course)
It's AB (overt of course)
Just based on the price speculation I'm thinking controller is built in but will have daisy chain maybe like GMO designs with cat cables? Hopefully we'll get some more insights soon.
Just noticed, this is using 16nm chips!
Hmmmm, that would be interesting to see them go back. Maybe they noticed MicroBT's results. I think it's more likely whoever made the product information page slipped up a little. In the past it's generally a copy past of older hardware then they edit it with the new specs. We'll just have to wait on Steven to come back and enlighten us a bit.
Biffa-
I think there will still be need for the controller, not positive. For the networking I believe that you will be using the rj45 cables in place of the AUC cables. So only 1 device whether that be the PI/Controller is connected to the router/switch, then the rest are connected in the same fashion as previous models just a different cable.
I could be wrong but that's my understanding of the info given. I'm interested to hear more from Steven on this, it's all pretty cool. Especially the option to have a built in PSU or not.
good question. However, the pics do not show any RJ45 jacks - only the I2C ones. Then again, we know Canaan is rather, um, 'iffy' with their pics.
Have we worked out that these are standalone devices? i.e. if you just buy one A10 then you don't need anything else? Just http to the management interface on the miner itself?
Does that mean that if you have the choice of running them individually, each unit plugged into a switch ala most other miners out there, or you can just have one plugged into the network and all the others daisy chained off that one miner via rj45 cables?
Does that mean that if you have the choice of running them individually, each unit plugged into a switch ala most other miners out there, or you can just have one plugged into the network and all the others daisy chained off that one miner via rj45 cables?
Just noticed, this is using 16nm chips!
Quote from the product page:
Quote from the product page:
Quote from: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-10
240 x A3205 Third Gen 16nm ASIC
Very cool indeed to see Steve posting here again.
The AvalonMiner 10 product page is now available.
Link: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-10/
The AvalonMiner 10 product page is now available.
Link: https://canaan.io/product/avalonminer-10/
~snip~
I've missed this direct from the team type of information. Looking forward to seeing the new design in action.
Did Canaan move away from the Rasp Pi for a controller? I don't recall where but there was someone here talking about a different controller model. Not sure if it was just a regional thing or not. Two different options regarding the PSU's is great, I had resigned myself to having to get models with a built in. Say you buy option 1 and the PSU dies, is it easily converted to accept a regular PSU moving forward? Or would someone need to order a replacement from Canaan?
I wake up to see btc at 4750 usd and Steve of Canaan with new gear.
Good news indeed.
No auc also good news. So Ethernet to Ethernet to rasp pi?
Good news indeed.
No auc also good news. So Ethernet to Ethernet to rasp pi?
Hi Steve, long time no see
Seen these A10s testing on my pool today - must be close to ready ...
Seen these A10s testing on my pool today - must be close to ready ...
Well Lily and I are back in charge of setting Specs and firmware requirements!
Trying to get super finegrain control of the power comsumption of machines so that freq can be set and reset on the fly.
In testing on the 841/851 should migrate easily.
On the 10 series there will be TWO options:
1. Option with "intgrated" PSU. basically this means a PSu with I2C control. There will be no PMU. Upside, miner controls
the PSU and you dont have to worry about your PSU burning up the PMU ( if the PSU supplies too low of a voltage for ex)
2. Option for regular PSU. The hash rate will take a little hit.
Also the AUC is gone. Machines daisy chain via internet connection. more details follow
and now for some really exciting news....
Just open sourced the 851
http://ehash.org/
Trying to get super finegrain control of the power comsumption of machines so that freq can be set and reset on the fly.
In testing on the 841/851 should migrate easily.
On the 10 series there will be TWO options:
1. Option with "intgrated" PSU. basically this means a PSu with I2C control. There will be no PMU. Upside, miner controls
the PSU and you dont have to worry about your PSU burning up the PMU ( if the PSU supplies too low of a voltage for ex)
2. Option for regular PSU. The hash rate will take a little hit.
Also the AUC is gone. Machines daisy chain via internet connection. more details follow
and now for some really exciting news....
Just open sourced the 851
http://ehash.org/
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