Topic: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread - page 33. (Read 107690 times)

LOL you must be new....

For a fork to work, the miner must support it. If more than 50% of miners are ASIC, you should forget about new fork.

Note that power consumption announced by the BTC fundation is for a  more tha 80 Ghs (4 slot instead of 3) !

the 450W announced for a 3 slot unit seems real for as I understand it !

Note that power consumption announced by the BTC fundation is for a  more tha 80 Ghs (4 slot instead of 3) !

the 450W announced for a 3 slot unit seems real for as I understand it !

The no bullshit, no fine print terms of sale
We Accept Bitcoin Only – Bitcoin allow us to collect large sum of assets in a short period of time, and due their nature the bitcoins can also be move to where they are suppose to go in a similar time frame. We are aware this will introduce Import issues for certain EU and SA countries. Avalon ASIC hope re-sellers will take this opportunity to grow and take care of this problem.

No Refunds - The Avalon units are made on a built-to-order basis. This means when you place an order, your bitcoins are used to order parts to construct your Avalon Unit. Refunds therefore are impossible. Utilizing a short time frame, batch based, and built-to-order method allows to manage finances properly and reduce risk for all parties. e.g. Avalon ASIC, the re-sellers and the buyers.

Trade-Ins - Avalon will continue to honor our old customers providing trade-in programs of old generations units, FPGA, and in the future for first generation ASIC modules. The Trade-In Orders are not part of the 600 unit limitation existing in Batch #2.

The Potential Risks
- Avalon ASIC will not be responsible for if a bitcoin bug is introduced rendering it useless between the period of time a batch of Avlaon units are being built.
- Avalon ASIC will not be responsible for if a proper Integrated Circuit company enters the market and produce a full-custom ASIC chip. Please evaluate your mining projections properly when purchasing Avalon ASIC.

Please read this carefully, as with all things Bitcoin one should treat this as an investment and make the decision best for you based on the liquid-able funds available at the moment when a batch opens for order.

I agree to the terms above and understand the potential risks.
orders open on febuary, 2nd, 2013. 9:00 am EST

Pretty dishonest. I don't believe for a second they didn't measure/know this. Of course http://launch.avalon-asics.com still says:

Hmm.

He's saying that in batch #2 they will sell 600 units to new customers, and will continue to make units in batch #2 available to trade-in customers even after 600 units have been ordered.

I think.

Im sure im not the only one confused about the exact meaning of the bolded as the OP says you will accept in this batch#2 preorder.
this overtime term of sale smells like fine print c'mon. Im considering buying one or two and I hope you sell everthing but just say something and stick with that, changing rules in the last minute doesnt help.

Quote in newsletter : Module slots have been reverted back to 4 with a possibility to be changed to 6. this is to ensure the proper delivery time of batch two.

I like this statement meaning they prefer deliver in time than take the risk of delay due evolution. I do prefer to have something than nothing or to receive it 2 month later than planned because a new upgrade of product (meaning time for devellopement , new design...) and anyway as its 500usd per additional module...I do prefer have to case with 3 modules than 1 with 6 modules ( with all of temperature problem it could occurs...).

from the website

The no bullshit, no fine print terms of sale

We Accept Bitcoin Only – Bitcoin allow us to collect large sum of assets in a short period of time, and due their nature the bitcoins can also be move to where they are suppose to go in a similar time frame. We are aware this will introduce Import issues for certain EU and SA countries. Avalon ASIC hope re-sellers will take this opportunity to grow and take care of this problem.

No Refunds - The Avalon units are made on a built-to-order basis. This means when you place an order, your bitcoins are used to order parts to construct your Avalon Unit. Refunds therefore are impossible. Utilizing a short time frame, batch based, and built-to-order method allows to manage finances properly and reduce risk for all parties. e.g. Avalon ASIC, the re-sellers and the buyers.

Trade-Ins - Avalon will continue to honor our old customers providing trade-in programs of old generations units, FPGA, and in the future for first generation ASIC modules. The Trade-In Orders are not part of the 600 unit limitation existing in Batch #2.

A standalone, self-contained Bitcoin mining unit.
It is literally plug-and-play; without the need for a separate hosting device.

Power Consumption: 450w

Quote in newsletter : Module slots have been reverted back to 4 with a possibility to be changed to 6. this is to ensure the proper delivery time of batch two.

I suppose it is the case fans and the TP-link router.

Avalon the 400w drag act.

It's not the chips which are pulling the extra power according to ngzhang's post.

I think that's why people are surprised.  It's really unlike Avalon to do this and I hope they'll just post the full system power consumption on their website.

Now, having said that.. AVALON.. WHAT THE HELL   at 620 watts you still have a KICK ASS product !!! Why are you cheapening your brand by pulling a stupid stunt like this?  You are doing much more damage to yourself by playing the "well, technically bla bla bla" bullshit than just coming out and saying "dang, our estimates were off.. its really 620 watts"

It's not the chips which are pulling the extra power according to ngzhang's post.