And, because the design is modular, the modules can be replaced with more energy efficient 65nm process chips in the future.
It's not the chips which are pulling the extra power according to ngzhang's post.
Topic: [Avalon ASIC] Batch #2 pre-Sale Thread - page 34. (Read 107712 times)
And, because the design is modular, the modules can be replaced with more energy efficient 65nm process chips in the future.
It's not the chips which are pulling the extra power according to ngzhang's post.
Yifu, you really need to address the power consumption issue before Batch 2 pre-orders start. When you said there was a "surprise" onboard, this is not what people were expecting and the fact that you didn't even inform people about it is a blow to your credibility - I'm a bit taken aback given how honest you guys have generally been.
Its faster than they initially announced, they probably increased the clock frequency, but the power consumption is higher than simulated. Its really not that big of a surprise. Its not really a factor in the operation. The largest factor in Bitcoin mining is the breakeven point, when the money laid out matches the return of the miner. Most of this is the cost of the equipment and variable costs like electricity are very tiny with a device this fast.
And, because the design is modular, the modules can be replaced with more energy efficient 65nm process chips in the future.
True, this makes long term earnings a bit murkier now but there's still gonna be enough ppl who missed these power figures and buy anyways.
Yifu, you really need to address the power consumption issue before Batch 2 pre-orders start. When you said there was a "surprise" onboard, this is not what people were expecting and the fact that you didn't even inform people about it is a blow to your credibility - I'm a bit taken aback given how honest you guys have generally been.
It's even worse that there was no warning from Yifu about it.
Pretty dishonest. I don't believe for a second they didn't measure/know this. Of course http://launch.avalon-asics.com still says:Quote from: http://launch.avalon-asics.com
Power Consumption: 450w
Hmm. 
wow.. 620 watts. Good morning GPU power 
. Glad I have free power still
. Glad I have free power still Avalon miner power usage snapshot has been posted. This should help calculate efficiency, electricity costs etc.
Ouch. That's massively over what was expected. It's even worse that there was no warning from Yifu about it.
Avalon miner power usage snapshot has been posted. This should help calculate efficiency, electricity costs etc.
Anybody knows how the customs will be declared here?
Will it be possible to declare them on certain sum, i.e. 250$ for example?
Will it be possible to declare them on certain sum, i.e. 250$ for example?
Karma is very kind, or very mean. It is your choice.
Do we have any idea what (International) shipping costs will be?
Bah! It's Saturday. No easy way to get coins. I'll just have to hope the price rises to $25.
Borrow them.
I don't have any OTC rep, and now I'm regretting it. Ah well. I'll just have to make do with ordering one fewer Avalon.
Bah! It's Saturday. No easy way to get coins. I'll just have to hope the price rises to $25.
newsletter sent, thread updated, systems checked. Let's play.
If you find the time once that the orders are closed will you draw a graph with the number of orders sent per second for the first 5/10 minutes?It will be amazing!
Also... Shipping costs? No one said me anything about shipping costs!
And lastly.. If we order one unit and one upgrade, will we receive a power supply able to handle it all?
newsletter sent, thread updated, systems checked. Let's play.
This is quite an achievement for the whole Avalon team. To come out and delivery first, deserves some serious kudos. We are going to see a ton of new hashing power come on.
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Having stayed out of the ASIC kerfuffle so far, I have to comment and say I really respect Avalon for shipping. The hashing performance amazes me, the same way it did when I compared GPU to the then going-out-of-style CPU miners.
Exciting times for bitcoin, that's for sure.
Exciting times for bitcoin, that's for sure.
Quite terrible timing for europeans
Eh? I'm in the UK and 9am EST = 2pm GMT.Hmm, seems my math is way off. That's a relief tho
Anybody knows how the customs will be declared here?
Will it be possible to declare them on certain sum, i.e. 250$ for example?
Will it be possible to declare them on certain sum, i.e. 250$ for example?
BFL has already stated that they won't lie on customs paperwork and I doubt that any of the other vendors will either. It's way too easy to lose your right to ship to a country if you start playing games with customs.
I would hope that customers had enough brains to find out about any duty/tax they'll have to pay on their units long ago so we don't see whiny threads from people who don't have the money to get their units out of customs when they land.
I'm curious: will batch #2 base units be a larger form factor? or will the Batch #2 modules have a smaller form factor to be able to fit 6 modules in the same space as 4 batch #1's ?? (( Possibly as thinner, but more efficient heat sink? ))
Can somebody do the math with me, I'm taking guess from this picture:
In the back, there are 3 fans, they look like the 12 cm x 12 cm type. That makes the current case 36 - 38 cm wide
[4.724 in x 4.724 in] [14.173 in - 14.96 in]
In the front, there is the power supply (8.5 cm x 15 cm), let's take 9 cm wide
[3.345 in x 5.90 in] [3.543 in]
The modules look like they are 6 cm wide
[2.362 in]
So if you put 6 modules in a wider case, the case would have to be 6 x 6 + 9 cm= 45 cm wide
[17.716 in]
45 cm is about as wide as the inner space of a 19" rack is
But there are a few gaps that would add to a size > 45 cm like the lip on the outside of the case, and some gaps on the inside.
Yifu, can you confirm the batch #2 cases will still fit into a 19" rack (even if you don't provide the ears, they can just
sit on little shelves).
Some of us do plan (dream?) of hosting these machines usually in a colo with 19" racks.
Worst case scenario I would imagine transplanting them to a 4U 19" rackmount case wouldn't be that hard. Maybe in the future they can improve the module pricing and allow one to buy the controller separately (or even better open source the controller). Just grab the case & PSU you want and buy up to 6 modules from Avalon.
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