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hero member
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November 07, 2013, 09:30:00 AM
#74


also, can people start to get over the avalon hate? they seriously screwed people over (espescially anyone invoved in the K16 projects) by "losing" thier chips and slow hipping of batch 3. i get it. but now they have completed 1 (out of 3!) auctions to the satisfaction of bidders, and are selling and delivering currently stocked items for fairly competitive rates (3.5BTC for 110GH right now isnt bad, not enough to make me buy, but close)

Yeah sure we will START getting over it, we won't be done for a few years.

"Gee guys they raped your mother on Monday, it's Wednesday already, get over it"

legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
November 07, 2013, 07:48:40 AM
#73

The Klondike has been finalized and is hashing. So, if the chips are pin compatible and package compatible, it should just take some minor tweaking to make it go.

However, considering that Avalon delays almost killed the Klondike to begin with, I doubt anybody in their right mind would trust Avalon...unless some real financial incentive was on the table, i.e. some chip discounts.


my understanding is that:
1) the klondike used hard-to-find/expensive components
2) the avalon gen2 chips may be the same size, but have a different pinout that likely requires a slightly re-traced PCB.

I dont have PCB experience, but have quality fab options available if there is a good simple design
Yes the PCB would need changes because the ASIC chips have some differences.
I would get a different power supply like this one. http://www.lineagepower.com/oem/pdf/UDT020A0X.pdf
Layout the board with all the chips together and not divided by the power supplies.
Probable use a PIC18 that has more memory and an easier USB bootloader.
 

times like this i wish i was an electrical engineer *sigh* - however i might suggest this power supply:  Texas Instruments TPS53355   -  i dont know how it compares in price, but it has a VERY small footprint (needs thermal vias), is 30A, and is what bitfury uses to run a 16-chip board near its maximum capacity. I imagine 16 avalon gen2 chips will also require close to 30A if running at higher speeds. Also, the component's output voltage is controlled by the value of a resistor linked to it, so changing the voltage from 0.8->0.9v for example is as easy as swapping in a slightly lower resistance or pencil modding.

also, can people start to get over the avalon hate? they seriously screwed people over (espescially anyone invoved in the K16 projects) by "losing" thier chips and slow hipping of batch 3. i get it. but now they have completed 1 (out of 3!) auctions to the satisfaction of bidders, and are selling and delivering currently stocked items for fairly competitive rates (3.5BTC for 110GH right now isnt bad, not enough to make me buy, but close)
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
November 07, 2013, 01:51:57 AM
#72
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

Rot in hell you piece of shit!!!

Pay the community what you owe them, or dont ever show your fcking cunt face on here.

hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1000
November 07, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
#71
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

After all this silence you come here only when you need money? Grats on your avalon gen1 chip and everything, but now you failed big time. Enjoy your chinese buyers, this forum doesn't want you around here.

Wouldn't that be nice if it was the truth. The truth is there are plenty of people in this very thread who will justify working with these criminals again and I hope they all get what they deserve!

+1 Although it would be a sad day for anyone to give Avalon a single Satoshi, there are countless people still hurting horribly as a result of the chips failing to deliver on time. It cost millions beyond the chips themselves. I can't really understand the willingness to deal with these people give what has happened. BFL/Avalon two sides to a double headed coin. People should boycott both these companies and let them rot.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
November 07, 2013, 12:18:50 AM
#70
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

After all this silence you come here only when you need money? Grats on your avalon gen1 chip and everything, but now you failed big time. Enjoy your chinese buyers, this forum doesn't want you around here.

Wouldn't that be nice if it was the truth. The truth is there are plenty of people in this very thread who will justify working with these criminals again and I hope they all get what they deserve!

Exactly!!!!!!!!!!! Greedy fuckers is what those who deal with Avalon are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let Avalon sell thier shit to China,that way the Chinese Mafia know where to find em  Kiss

If I knew Y I FU's & Ngzhang address I'd sell it to those guys in a heart beat  Tongue Grin
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 500
November 06, 2013, 11:09:12 PM
#69
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

After all this silence you come here only when you need money? Grats on your avalon gen1 chip and everything, but now you failed big time. Enjoy your chinese buyers, this forum doesn't want you around here.

Wouldn't that be nice if it was the truth. The truth is there are plenty of people in this very thread who will justify working with these criminals again and I hope they all get what they deserve!
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
November 06, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
#68
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

After all this silence you come here only when you need money? Grats on your avalon gen1 chip and everything, but now you failed big time. Enjoy your chinese buyers, this forum doesn't want you around here.
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
November 06, 2013, 10:22:42 PM
#67
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng

Hello ngzhang, what about your trade-in promise? In fact, those one who bought your FPGA were financing your Avalon Gen-1. Yifu is always speaking on this forum so he is the most infamous person in the Avalon team. But you are also a liar, aren't you?

What is your role in the Batch III delaying? Why you not compensate the customer for your unacceptable delaying?
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
November 06, 2013, 10:03:33 PM
#66

The Klondike has been finalized and is hashing. So, if the chips are pin compatible and package compatible, it should just take some minor tweaking to make it go.

However, considering that Avalon delays almost killed the Klondike to begin with, I doubt anybody in their right mind would trust Avalon...unless some real financial incentive was on the table, i.e. some chip discounts.


my understanding is that:
1) the klondike used hard-to-find/expensive components
2) the avalon gen2 chips may be the same size, but have a different pinout that likely requires a slightly re-traced PCB.

I dont have PCB experience, but have quality fab options available if there is a good simple design
Yes the PCB would need changes because the ASIC chips have some differences.
I would get a different power supply like this one. http://www.lineagepower.com/oem/pdf/UDT020A0X.pdf
Layout the board with all the chips together and not divided by the power supplies.
Probable use a PIC18 that has more memory and an easier USB bootloader.
 
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
November 06, 2013, 09:41:39 PM
#65

The Klondike has been finalized and is hashing. So, if the chips are pin compatible and package compatible, it should just take some minor tweaking to make it go.

However, considering that Avalon delays almost killed the Klondike to begin with, I doubt anybody in their right mind would trust Avalon...unless some real financial incentive was on the table, i.e. some chip discounts.


my understanding is that:
1) the klondike used hard-to-find/expensive components
2) the avalon gen2 chips may be the same size, but have a different pinout that likely requires a slightly re-traced PCB.

I dont have PCB experience, but have quality fab options available if there is a good simple design
hero member
Activity: 529
Merit: 501
November 06, 2013, 09:34:59 PM
#64

The Klondike has been finalized and is hashing. So, if the chips are pin compatible and package compatible, it should just take some minor tweaking to make it go.

However, considering that Avalon delays almost killed the Klondike to begin with, I doubt anybody in their right mind would trust Avalon...unless some real financial incentive was on the table, i.e. some chip discounts.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
November 06, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
#63
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

I requested sometime around last thursday/friday, and got the address confirmation email on saturday, and the shipping email today.

problem is, i now need to move fast on having a test board of some type, but am not terribly impressed by the current options (the opensource has 2 levels of pcb (assembly PITA) and the hex16 looks like it has some more work needed.

anyone have a good suggestion for 10-chip design?
Now that hardware errors have been resolved, why not use the open source Klondike design ?
With a few changes you could have it up and running in a short time.
If I could design a PCB I would to it.
I asked for some sample chips to connect to the Klondike design but my request must have been inadequate.
I don't have any PCB design experience. Sad
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
November 06, 2013, 03:56:27 PM
#62
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

I requested sometime around last thursday/friday, and got the address confirmation email on saturday, and the shipping email today.

problem is, i now need to move fast on having a test board of some type, but am not terribly impressed by the current options (the opensource has 2 levels of pcb (assembly PITA) and the hex16 looks like it has some more work needed.

anyone have a good suggestion for 10-chip design?
hero member
Activity: 592
Merit: 501
We will stand and fight.
November 06, 2013, 03:05:28 PM
#61
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?

Hi,

It seems I lost a batch of sample request due to email filter issues (expecially at the beginning). Please fill this form (again):

http://avalon-asics.com/my-account/sample-chip-request/

Delivery address must have valid phone number and ZIP code. I will take care of them tomorrow.

Sorry for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.

ng
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
November 06, 2013, 02:41:14 PM
#60
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
I'm still waiting to hear back on getting some sort of samples to do an Avalon Gen2 design, but it's been just silence on their end. When did you request samples?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
November 06, 2013, 02:31:33 PM
#59
for what its worth, avalon just issued a tracking number for a sample pack of 10 chips. (not visible via ems yet)
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
November 06, 2013, 07:59:00 AM
#58
"Avalon ASIC Mining Chip: A3255 Auction
500 chips, 1.5-1.6 GH/s (standard), 0.9V, 2.0W
Thank you for your interest in this auction; the auction has now closed. The Clearing Price for this product was 2.21 Bitcoin. Bidders will be contacted within 24 hours, from the close, to be notified of their status. Products will be shipped within 72 hours of the close of the auction."

Wow, some amateurs! reused the winning bid on the mini auction and put it on the chip when auction closed without winners..

I don't get it.  What bidders?

exactly, they had zero bidders.. but the amateur part is that they just showed the standard response which was from an previous auction, that cleared for 2.21 btc.. min bid for this one was 24 so its all wrong.
hero member
Activity: 491
Merit: 514
November 05, 2013, 11:17:55 PM
#57
It looks like Yifu might be coming around.
http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3255-55nm-chip-500-count-reel/
$3000 for a 500 chip reel is a little more reasonable.

Wow already shows out of stock. Guess he was just testing the water for suckers since there are plenty of people willing to buy miners that will not have positive BTC ROI but I guess there are not enough that know how to turn chips into miners Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1274
Merit: 1004
November 05, 2013, 11:14:50 PM
#56
It looks like Yifu might be coming around.
http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3255-55nm-chip-500-count-reel/
$3000 for a 500 chip reel is a little more reasonable.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1004
Glow Stick Dance!
November 05, 2013, 10:42:58 PM
#55
"Avalon ASIC Mining Chip: A3255 Auction
500 chips, 1.5-1.6 GH/s (standard), 0.9V, 2.0W
Thank you for your interest in this auction; the auction has now closed. The Clearing Price for this product was 2.21 Bitcoin. Bidders will be contacted within 24 hours, from the close, to be notified of their status. Products will be shipped within 72 hours of the close of the auction."

Wow, some amateurs! reused the winning bid on the mini auction and put it on the chip when auction closed without winners..

I don't get it.  What bidders?

I guess no one bid on these chips? I didn't really get involved this time as I heard butterfly chips where (2-3GH/s and at 2watts). I hope YiFU is reading this. Smiley



Not "butterfly"... you mean Bitfury.  Big BIG difference there.  Wink
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