Avalon batch [3] countdown! - page 21.

pajak666

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Looking for advertising deal

Quote from: jspielberg on July 24, 2013, 07:29:38 AM

Quote from: candoo on July 24, 2013, 07:26:28 AM

I cant believe it. They shipped the chips first. We will never reach ROI now.

Source?

Quote from: zefir on July 23, 2013, 03:52:52 PM

Chips.

Got them delivered in the afternoon, too late for immediate re-shipment.

Package contains 4 smaller packages with 3x sealed ESD bag with 2600 chips each + 1x opened ESD bag with 2200 chips.

I was hoping to get them in reels and be able to cut them easily in smaller portions. With the 26x10 QFN48 trays they are delivered in, distribution becomes difficult. I tried hard to get empty reels to split them in smaller chunks, but could not find a distributor for low volumes. Now I'll have to ship them in small ESD bags - like I did with the samples.

It will be a long night for me to re-pack everything for distribution, hopefully ready in the morning to drive to Germany for shipping.

Cheers

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Quote from: jspielberg on July 24, 2013, 07:29:38 AM

Quote from: candoo on July 24, 2013, 07:26:28 AM

I cant believe it. They shipped the chips first. We will never reach ROI now.

Source?

Bitcointalk forum?

Look at zefirs chip distribution for example. He received the first 10,000 chips a few days ago

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Quote from: candoo on July 24, 2013, 07:26:28 AM

I cant believe it. They shipped the chips first. We will never reach ROI now.

Source?

candoo

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Vertrau in Gott

I cant believe it. They shipped the chips first. We will never reach ROI now.

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200 OK

RLW update: hash rate dropped from 4300 Gh/s to half of that. Units probably shipping soon.

Disclaimer: pure speculation

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yifu can avoid all these threats by being more honest, communicative and transparent

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Quote from: ftping on July 23, 2013, 01:08:42 PM

Dat hash rate: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

Looks like 5 avalons, no?

Let's see ... 4 module avalons being tested. Finally.

Based on prior experience with RLW spikes, expect shipping to begin next week.

mitak64

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Looks like more than 10 now.
I hope one of them is mine Wink

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Dat hash rate: http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1AYdAw8CcrQ2wx55LTbFHRn5bxgNZhaRLW

Looks like 5 avalons, no?

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on July 22, 2013, 10:53:54 PM

Quote from: martinm on July 22, 2013, 10:45:41 PM

A scammer tag wouldn't hurt them, you have to go after their cash and for this you would need to involve a legal entity. I'm really curious if their business practice are conform with US law. Selling products under wrong promises (ROI prediction), sending out products as samples even they aren't. Import products without needed certifications, let customers abroad pay in foreign currency to private bank accounts (chinese customers could pay in RMB to an chinese account). Using customer products for own profit before delivery,.... Is all that really legal in US? The list could be even more extended, could be worth to let an attorney look into this case, all this points looking suspicious to me.

I agree a scammer tag won't do much.

I guarantee if they keep delaying and not delivering more batch 1/2/3 machines and chip orders, there will definitely be some people filing lawsuits against them (me included if they keep delaying or just ignore me and never ship my equipment.) There are several lawsuits forming for BFL customers that I've heard of, Avalon's day is coming too if they don't get their stuff straightened out. I believe Avalon is a USA registered company by Bitsyncom, so it is certainly under the jurisdiction of US courts.

CoinHoarder is correct. Avalon can be sued for evidence of economic loss and false advertisement. A class action lawsuit can be put in place as well. On a criminal standpoint, Avalon can be prosecuted for money laundering in the U.S.

I've been extremely patient. I am consulting legal action now with my counsel.

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I wonder if it is still possible to request a refund, given that there are no signs of 4 module units shipped.

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Quote from: Minor Miner on July 23, 2013, 11:17:22 AM

Thanks for everyone posting when their status changes.
But, can you please post whether it is a 3 or 4 board unit also?
I do not believe anyone has been shipped a 4 board unit yet and would like to know when they ship them.

I think that they have power problems with the 4 module Avalon. Did you see the photo with the upgrade design? 1 Power connector for 2 moduls wont work! The pins cant handle 400 watt. Iam pretty sure that their avalon got melted and that they had to change that.

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Thanks for everyone posting when their status changes.
But, can you please post whether it is a 3 or 4 board unit also?
I do not believe anyone has been shipped a 4 board unit yet and would like to know when they ship them.

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I wish these things were only $500 each!

pikeadz

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Also, I see now that mine read $1500 for the customs declaration because there were three of them and only one invoice. If you ordered only one, it should read $500 like Tyger's.

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Isn't CE only required if a power plug is included? These are just electronic spare parts...

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Quote from: luffy on July 23, 2013, 06:36:52 AM

Quote from: pikeadz on July 22, 2013, 10:17:09 PM

got 3 today. Here's two of them.

http://imgur.com/zKEOhjT
http://imgur.com/jB6UpMz

and one of them hashing:

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1Lmuvne9YdNhuEHoW74awyRYbi9GbR3vAo

Thought about selling them but highest offer was 130. No thanks.

with DHL?
what paperwork was included ? a CE certification document? what about the invoice?
thanks

Yes DHL. No paperwork included other than the invoice. No CE.

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Quote from: pajak666 on July 23, 2013, 05:24:55 AM

I wish we could organise group lawsuit. If all batch #3 customers wish to throw few btc for that we could afford very nice and effective lawyer.
This would be only rational way of dealing with Bitsyncom, any only hope for partial refund of bitcoins that they have mined with our equipment.

If this week pass without a positive result, I would suggest to talk with this law firm http://www.coindesk.com/us-law-firm-nesenoff-miltenberg-accepts-payment-in-bitcoin/. As far as I know it's possible in US that a group of people can start together a law suit. So customers could organize and these law firm could take up that case. They could be even personally interested in such a case as this would bring some publicity. Besides this it would be a signal for the whole industry to take care of customers and regulations. We even could pay the law firm with Bitcoins, so customers all over the wold can participate without big problems.

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well the value in $ is declared officially in DHL document thus this is not much of a problem. the real problem is the CE.
i wonder about batch #2 avalons though. Were there any problems with CE?

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Invoice in batch#3 is valued in btc, $ value is hand written next to it. Expect problems at customs.

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